My comment reached the desired mark in your psyche
Go get it duke, I for one want you to succeed. Approach every training session like you feel when someone says you cant do something.
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Fuck yeah! Thanks man
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todays training deep water week 2 workout 2
10×10 strict barbell press 30kg 4 minute rest.
3×20 band pull aparts
5×10 fat gripz curls
1 minute plank with 20 situps 3 rounds no rest. This got me good… rounds 2 and 3 had to rest a couple of seconds but unlike last week didnt rest at all on plank set 1. Next time I’ll aim for no rest on the second plank either.
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Todays training deep-water 3 week 2
Rope pullups 4× failure
5,5,5,5
Barbell Bent over rows
4×10 60kg
Farmers into keg carry
100kg per hand ×20 metres, run back to keg. Keg ×20 metres
3 rounds
Had good speed then i fucked up @strongmanbrett @T3hPwnisher @anon96032531 @theonecamko this happens alot. On yoke too… how do i fix this? I gain good speed then slow the hell down after a few seconds tf
20 situps followed by 20 reverse hypers. 3 rounds no rest
Clean pulls were just dumb as hell again, Going to do Log cleans instead of power cleans come the intermediate program. Sue me lol
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Can’t tell in the video, but if you look down at all it can slow you down. Constantly focus on trying to run through the wall. Also @T3hPwnisher cue of focusing on your feet and thinking “quick feet, quick feet” works very well
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I used that today, helped alot. Also used the tip of leaning forward/using momentum. On my warmup sets i was going fast as shit.
I think thats whats happening, im looking down and my footwork gets thrown out. It’s a bad habit inneed to get out of
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Watch some of Jon’s appearances on the powercast when you get a chance. He talks about why he added olympic lifts into his training to specifically help his strongman. Log cleans would be good for the thrusters and full cleans in the advanced program, but won’t fit the bill for the intermediate or advanced days. Different effects and limiters.
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Some of the best strongmen i know incorporate the olympic lifts. Just the rate at how i learn movements and the complexity of them i feel its a waste of time even bothering to do them in a program at this stage, i wouldnt get anything out of cleans since when i try them its like a deadlift reverse curl. Terrible.
I mean I’ll get better/stronger/be better at banging out reps at log cleans right? Thats good
That’s good. That will be very brutal when you go for amraps.
These don’t have to be perfect. Mine sure aren’t.
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The cleans are in there for getting faster though. That is why I say to watch Jon talk to them. He says it was something he added to his training that took his performance to a new level.
If you aren’t going to learn them now, when? I learned on the program. My first time doing clean pulls and cleans too. It sucked.
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Honesty when i can get a coach, i have enough trouble learning movements as it is without it being complex like a power clean or olympic lift. My clean pull looks like a deadlift with a spastic shrug at the top
You’ve been training alot longer and are alot smarter/experienced at lifting. Movements would come easier to you than they do to me? I know you say you’re some big oaf and dont hhave the greatest technique or whatever but you’re technique is far better than mine on all lifts from what I’ve seen
A power clean isn’t complex though; thousands of kids your age do them as part of a football training program. Coaches tend to prefer them to deads because they are easier for players to master. This isn’t a full clean or a snatch.
You are at an age where your body will pick things up much quicker. It only gets harder as you get older.
This is one of those self-fulfilling prophecies. You tell yourself powercleans are complex and you can’t learn them and it happens. Try the opposite approach.
Let your clean pulls be a deadlift with a shrug. Mine were. Strive to make them a little better with each rep. Pick 1 thing to focus on for a training session and do that.
This is why you signed up for Deep Water: the challenge.
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Interesting. I thought they were harder to learn.
Hmmm
I hate deadlifting and i hate shrugs,its like the worst exercise ever for me 
Well yeah, Physical and mental suffering via brutal training and diet. Not learning annoying movements.
That is the mental suffering though; being outside your comfort zone.
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I have to agree with the Power Clean advocate above. Cleans are good for strongman!
Barbell pulls and cleans will help you One Motion stones. Maybe, maybe they can help out tire flips. Maybe.
Cleans are faster than continentals if you ever do an overhead for reps event.
Cleans are great for upper back and traps, which can never be too strong. Also they work your grip a little.
It will take a little work, but it will be worth the effort. I agree with what jmaier said a few days ago, it can help to start “easier” with cleans from the hang, or some kind of “drill” to build up to a power clean from the floor. But I guess Punisher is proof that’s not necessary.
Also, your last deadlift video looked really good. Lots of improvement!
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I think @Frank_C has good advice there for learning the technique, and I might start doing it once the program is over to get better at it. That’s definitely my weakest part of the movement.
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I’m just going to skip the clean pulls and do farmers/Keg instead. I don’t care if clean pulls help learn the clean easier. I’d rather power clean then do a clean pull. I’ll do power cleans like I’m supposed to on the intermediate but theres no way im doing clean pulls
Which has taken months and months… that’s what I’m trying to say when i say i won’t get anything out of power cleans because its just a reverse cheat deadlift curl at the moment. It will take me months to do it properly
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You’d be surprised. There was a guy I went to highschool with that went on to play college football and in senior year he “power cleaned” 315 for 5 fairly easy. Literally was a fast deadlift curl with minimal dip under the bar. He was a big motherfucker and just did everything in the pursuit of being brutally strong.
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Yup. A LOT of strength and power is developed from getting a bar from off the floor onto your collarbone/chest. If you can do it with good technique, that’s cool too, but even if not, you get strong from it.
I hit a set of 40 cleans at one point during the advanced program, and I’m sure maybe 1% of them were good, but it was a helluva workout.
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oooh what a lot of text in this log.
maybe someone has already said something like this, but could high pulls be a viable substitute for olympic lifting?