It was confusing that you wrote about Groypers being grounded in traditional Christian values but was a white supremacist group. Was that a traditional Christian value 2000 years ago, or in the last fifty years you mentioned?
Your conclusion then that Robinson does not have traditional Christian values precludes him being a Groyper is a non sequitur.
I was just confused about your point is all. It will all be revealed sooner or later.
I didnât make that up. Those werenât my words. I got that off of a Google search. I included the source. I had no idea what a Groyper was. And I am trying to forget it now.
Traditional Christian values is not easy to define. Like Nomad said, itâs a 2000+ years and there are variety of Christian cultures around the globe. Not every form of Christianity is the same. If you ask the question in different areas or eras youâll get slightly different answers.
Are there Christian white supremacist groups? Yes. Itâs not even a new phenomenon. But talking about how well they have interpreted the core values of Christianity is a another topic.
I read this and Galatians 3:28 came to mind, I wasnât going to post, try and steer clear of the pwi stuff (despite reading it, I havenât got the will to engage in it particularly), then I closed the thread and my verse of the day was staring at meâŠ
So yea, white supremacist âChristiansâ really havenât got the core values right (as Iâm sure you are well aware and werenât saying otherwise).
How do those bible quotes fit in with Groypers grooming femboys and being rooted in Christian values?
And, can you explain civil disobedience - you seem to imply that the murder of Kirk was civil disobedience. Was that your intent. Was the Jan 6 insurrection civil? Or did you mis speak?
As far as biblical references, are you familiar with the different mistranslations and the concept of eisegesis?
Perhaps you would find Matthew 7:1 useful at this time.
Because of the current idea that if you donât love and support and become an âallyâ to everything I stand for, then youâre a disgusting pig that needs to be killed.
So of course they politicize everything and drive people away.
Perhaps you have elected to misinterpret the verse. BTW, this is a favorite Muslim verse to silence a Christian by accusing them of judging. Read verse 3-5 as they describe what principle verses 1-2 is teaching.
Paul makes it extremely clear that Christians are called to judge others. Read 1 Corinthians :1-8
"1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren."
Oh, I Googled it and itâs an american thing. Your âracial classificationsâ are weird anyway. I usually think everybody who has naturally more pigment as a ânon whiteâ. I donât usually think much about this anyway, since it does not really matter.