[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
So tragic.
A little bit too late to help now that she’s dead, uh?
But I hope her father finds those responsible and sticks a gun up their asses and tears them holes wide open. Motherfuckers.
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That will teach bullies not to behave badly won’t it? Use your head.
I’m not saying her situation was her fault, but it seems like teenagers/kids these days don’t know to properly deal with certain things, and I think this ought to be addressed as well.
She’s the same age as my oldest sister, so I’m very unsettled.
They’re dicks and she was an idiot.
[quote]Alex Good wrote:
They’re dicks and she was an idiot.[/quote]
She was young and naive. She made 2 mistakes and now she is dead.
Show some compassion moron.
While Steven Pinker is dead wrong, of course our official understanding of primitve violence has changed.
Back in the old days, less people would have felt like a completely rejected loser when bullied.
Suicide simply didn’t occur to most bullying victims as an option.
Some of the reasons (and I’m not taking sides here, historically speaking):
-we actually put every pair of hands to more or less good use, so no one felt completely useless
-family was far more close
-an individual nowadays is suppsed to have unlimited potential for success and happiness
etc
The internet makes it so there’s no relief from bullying.
If you were a victim of bullying back in the “old days”, you’d go home and get a break from the taunting. You could quietly reflect on it without panic, and often come to some conclusions that you could reason with and change your behavior for the next day’s onslaught.
Not today. It’s 24/7.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I’m not saying her situation was her fault, but it seems like teenagers/kids these days don’t know to properly deal with certain things, and I think this ought to be addressed as well. [/quote]
I’m not sure if kids ever really had to deal with being sexually exploited over the Internet by people who were supposedly their friends. I also don’t think there has ever been a time when that hurt and embarrassment could be instantly displayed in front of their entire social circle and perfect strangers alike. I don’t think bullies have ever been able to electronically track their targets from school to school and even follow them into the supposed safety of their own bedrooms via Internet.
So I agree that kids these days are not dealing properly with certain things, but those some of those things were never a problem before “these days”. Don’t get me wrong, I worry for the emotional health of our youth but I don’t think it’s fair to compare their situation to our own when we were that age. The rules of engagement and general context have changed.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
While Steven Pinker is dead wrong, of course our official understanding of primitve violence has changed.
Back in the old days, less people would have felt like a completely rejected loser when bullied.
Suicide simply didn’t occur to most bullying victims as an option.
Some of the reasons (and I’m not taking sides here, historically speaking):
-we actually put every pair of hands to more or less good use, so no one felt completely useless
-family was far more close
-an individual nowadays is suppsed to have unlimited potential for success and happiness
etc
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Do you have actual evidence to support your claim or just warm recollections of the way things used to be?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/Violent_crime_rates_1973-2005.jpg US crime rates since 1973 have been on a downward trend.
Since peaking in the 90s, US juvenile crime rates have also been on a downward trend. http://www.publicagenda.org/files/charts/ff_crime_juvenile%20violent%20crime%20rate.png
Even British crime, which arguably has tailwinds from societal forces not deeply present in the United States, has broadly fallen as well since the 90s http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/Crime.jpg
The contention that suicide is somehow a new response does not respond to the data either, given falling total rates
There might be a case to be made for a heightened increase in youth suicide but to causally link it with bullying alone seems to be a leap based on the available evidence
found this from 4chan
Ok, well let’s just get this all out of the way so you all can stop your ****ing about this dead girl. A lot of what is posted in her video and on her page is fabricated to make her look like she was an angel. Think again.
She got ‘beat’ up at school not because of the picture, but because she slept with another girl’s boyfriend. (refer to #1)
5. The guy ‘bullied’ her once only about 6-8 months after she flashed online. Not multiple times over 2 years.
6. She was known to have slept with multiple men and to sell herself out.
7. Her home life wasn’t the best. (family troubles)
You people who are giving her sympathy and pity should all be ashamed of yourselves. Instead of giving pity to a girl who already commited suicide, how about you talk to that lonely kid at lunch? Yea, the one who sits all alone in the corner. But no, you’d rather sit with your friends and then come home and get on facebook and say **** like ‘Oh, how come no one helped poor Amanda, she’s so pretty, why did she have to die’. **** YOU! Go crawl back in your shell of safety while the ones who really need help are only an arms length away.
We should be talking about the ones who were bullied and managed to survive through it all. The success stories. Because that’s what gives kids hope, the ones who know what it’s like to be in their shoes. The ones who have walked that road before and came out ok.
What kind of message does it send to impressionable teens that if you go ahead and kill yourself that you will get thousands of likes on a facebook page and everyone will feel sorry for you and give you attention? If you have any self respect for the future then you’d stop and think about where your morals are. If you’re too confused with your emotions and common sense, then just get off the internet entirely. No one wants to read your idiotic comments and your emotion filled rage tantrums.
tl;dr Stop giving pity to a dead girl. Give it to the ones who deserve it.
I just really cant wrap my mind around why they would take it so far. When i was in school girls did worse and nobody stood in judgement of them, of course their were off handed remarks but no one persecuted them for it. It was however before facebook and that kind of social media.
Are teenagers in USA really that soft and sensitive? Got bullied and kill herself. I mean… man how can you give so much pity for someone who didnt appreciate life. A lot of people get bullied but they dont whine on the net or kill themselvs.
[quote]ToTheTop_TTT wrote:
Are teenagers in USA really that soft and sensitive? Got bullied and kill herself. I mean… man how can you give so much pity for someone who didnt appreciate life. A lot of people get bullied but they dont whine on the net or kill themselvs. [/quote]
I believe this girl lived in Canada ala the title saying British Columbia jackass.
I wish I could say I understand because I was bullied in school as being a scrawny, quiet person. The whole internet aspect to it seems to take it to another level. Reasons like this are why I hate Facebook and don’t use it. It’s too bad she didn’t think to just delete her profile.
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]ToTheTop_TTT wrote:
Are teenagers in USA really that soft and sensitive? Got bullied and kill herself. I mean… man how can you give so much pity for someone who didnt appreciate life. A lot of people get bullied but they dont whine on the net or kill themselvs. [/quote]
I believe this girl lived in Canada ala the title saying British Columbia jackass.[/quote]
Ya real mature bro using the death of a teenage girl to take shot at Americas sensitivity. Speaking ill of dead teenage girls is also frowned upon in the U.S., Canada too im sure.
[quote]Cr Powerlinate wrote:
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
While Steven Pinker is dead wrong, of course our official understanding of primitve violence has changed.
Back in the old days, less people would have felt like a completely rejected loser when bullied.
Suicide simply didn’t occur to most bullying victims as an option.
Some of the reasons (and I’m not taking sides here, historically speaking):
-we actually put every pair of hands to more or less good use, so no one felt completely useless
-family was far more close
-an individual nowadays is suppsed to have unlimited potential for success and happiness
etc
[/quote]
Even British crime, which arguably has tailwinds from societal forces not deeply present in the United States, has broadly fallen as well since the 90s http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/Crime.jpg
T [/quote]
British crime has fallen?
It falls because people do not report it.
Rape, burglary, theft, battery and other violence goes un-reported because hardly anything happens and if it does get reported you face a long slog.
If you defend yourself you are arrested and charged with violent behaviour but it doesn’t reach court and thus its not a crime BUT there was a crime committed.
Does it make sense? Nope.
[quote]ToTheTop_TTT wrote:
Are teenagers in USA really that soft and sensitive? Got bullied and kill herself. I mean… man how can you give so much pity for someone who didnt appreciate life. A lot of people get bullied but they dont whine on the net or kill themselvs. [/quote]
Soft and sensitive?
So lets whisk you back to when you were a child. A time when you did care about what people said and what happened to you actually mattered BIG time.
School is your world, parents dont udnerstand you and adults are not really in your zone of thought.
You have 100+ people at any one time hating on you verbally and socially. You’re an outcast and in some cases you are physically abused.
Girls are some of the worst bullies you can come across. They lead like a pack of dogs and they can always rely on the muscle from the guys if they need too.
Its the time where girls know the power of whats between their legs so boys defending girl is out of the question. The only guy who can defend her is her dad or older, bigger brother.
She had no bigger brother nor did her dad do anything directly.
Do you understand anything about bullying at all you fucking slack jawed cunt?
Until you do, shut the fuck up.
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
[quote]ToTheTop_TTT wrote:
Are teenagers in USA really that soft and sensitive? Got bullied and kill herself. I mean… man how can you give so much pity for someone who didnt appreciate life. A lot of people get bullied but they dont whine on the net or kill themselvs. [/quote]
Soft and sensitive?
So lets whisk you back to when you were a child. A time when you did care about what people said and what happened to you actually mattered BIG time.
School is your world, parents dont udnerstand you and adults are not really in your zone of thought.
You have 100+ people at any one time hating on you verbally and socially. You’re an outcast and in some cases you are physically abused.
Girls are some of the worst bullies you can come across. They lead like a pack of dogs and they can always rely on the muscle from the guys if they need too.
Its the time where girls know the power of whats between their legs so boys defending girl is out of the question. The only guy who can defend her is her dad or older, bigger brother.
She had no bigger brother nor did her dad do anything directly.
Do you understand anything about bullying at all you fucking slack jawed cunt?
Until you do, shut the fuck up.[/quote]
Glad you’re enlightening the masses with generalities and assumptions…
Why would you log into accounts online if you absolutely knew no one would have anything positive to say on the site about you?
Sucks she took the route she did but damn…
Plenty of places where a kid can find acceptance these days 24 7 bullying only exists if you let it.
Turn it off and join a dojo…anything…kick it at a music store…buy an instrument…find people…start a band…
Guys why giving me shit so fast? I dont have bigger brother nor wanted to get my dad involved, but whatever this is not my story. I dont understand why you feel so pity for this girl… what about the teens in the hood. There you dont get “bullied” you get fucked up or directly killed.
