Good fuking question. I’m pretty sure the oil/fat/lipid based ones you are fine with. the key is not to use grain fiber around supps, work on veggie fiber instead. veggie fiber has the best benefits anyhow. Eat your grain fiber (oats) around not supp time. If you drink enough water then the food you eat should be past your stomach and in your gut in no time so you can take your vitamins and shit. haven’t seen this thread in a minute, dang.
-chris
[quote]greekdawg wrote:
I want to increase my fiber intake throughout the day like real PB laid out but I take alot of supps and fish oil, CLA, etc. I don’t want the extra fiber to suck up my supplements and potentially waste them…what would be a good strategy to take them? how long after taking supps, oils, fats, etc. should I wait to take fiber supps or eat high fiber foods?
realpeanutbutter wrote:
AgentOrange wrote:
I’m still waiting for realpeanutbutter to jump all over this thread…
It seems i’m a touch late to the seminar lads, my apologies. I’d say it’s a common problem because we’ve discussed it with another fourum member before. We got him to be in touch with his dukes, so too can you be.
I’m a fan of not carrying around aloe/baby/wet wipes. poeple start asking questions etc. Plus the cold wet feeling on ones ass can be… strange, and wet. just eat right to experience the euphoric, cleansing feeling of a solid, low-no wiper that floats (or doesn’t depending on your goals)
Instead you should examine your fiber intake. You will likely notice that either:
A) you don’t get enough (30+ g for athletes like us and big eaters)
B) you get it all at certain times.
By fiber i mean anything from veggies to benefiber to all bran buds. Now veggies are less than appetizing for most so we are less likely to get in our 8-10 serves per day. Even if we do you might notice that they are mostly at breakfast and dinner.
Even though you get enough fiber (theoretically) if it is in little bunches then you will have a greater variance of texture and “adhesiveness.”
So if clean textured, non-burning, low wipers are your goal then you should likely spread a large fiber amount (40+ g per day is good for big diets, an randomly selected rule of thumb seems to be about 10 g per 1000 calories. exceeding will yeild better results in most cases, depending on fiber sources.) evenly as possible over the whole day.
An example would be if you have five feedings per day then you should get fiber in every feeding. This basically translates into veggie/fruit servings every meal. If you are trying to eat 3 aples per day ah la Dr. Lowery then you should space those out. Also hit spinach at least once a day for worlds highest protein fiber source. You also have your oatmeal and berries, nuts and bran cereal. Fiber sources are every where. The key is to avoid meals like:
Pure steak and cheese
sausage by itself
basically anything without veggies
Constant fiber intake will lead to consistency in dookie texture. But there are other factors involved in good, nay, great poos.
High fat levels in any one perticular meal can cause a stickyness in the poopy. Try eating a pizza with spicy tandoori chicken and an assload of cheese. The next morning you may notice that you are shitting flaming glue (happened to me on sunday morning after UFC, test case yourself at your own risk. We all do the prison walk sometimes, right?). Unless your liver is a work horse fatty remenants can be found in your ‘moves.’ So unless you are on the AD avoid excessive amounts of fat in any one meal, spread it out. Love the fat, but not all at once (and maybe without jalepenos). Also, most of the AD guys eat spinach and fiber of all types like there is a prize for it. And they basically shit farm animals, ask 'em.
Another aspect of not only texture but consistency is protein intake. We are all on pretty high dead animal eating plans. This is good for us because it helps prevent liquid poos, “painting the bowl,” or “photo-finishing” as it were. Ask a vegetarian what their shit looks like, I bet on average it can not be described as, “solid.” But if your high protein intake is not matched by a high fiber intake then you will suffer unduly in the form of constipation. Have you ever had shit that felt as though it had sharp edges? That is a high PRO low fiber turd. This is what can give you the previously mentioned roids and prolapses (uuugh).
You may go home and take up the art of fine pooing and then PM me three weeks from now and say “Chris, the fuk? I did what you said and it still hurts. I’ve got more vasoline on my ass hole than a peg boy after a drinking game on a pirate ship.” And i will tell you that there is a good chance you have some type of allergie or intolerance. To figre this out either:
A) get a blood test
B) reduce your diet of most likely allergens (eg. milk, whey, casin, wheat, cheese, soy sauce, spicy shit etc.) and then reintroduce them one by one after a few weeks without to see if it is what you removed or not. Also, cheap whey can cause all kinds of bowel disfunctions in some people, shitty i know, pay up.
How the hell do i know (think i know) all this? It’s my sport and I’m good at it. I’ve entered a few “movement comps” and won everything from pride to some type of fancy bicycle from this bike shop in vancouver. I sold it because I’m not big into cycling, hurts my balls. It was apparently very nice because it easily paid for a semester of uni. Also, there are many aspects to the ‘art of movement’ that you can check out. Want to know how to drop the legendary “ghost poopy” or a strong “no-wiper?” It’s much more interesting than your think. It’s all about food in, poo out. No wipes needed. I use the cheapest TP money can buy, every day, and I shit about 3-5 times per day. No coffee and no fiber supps (although coffee is awesome at stimulating a “breech” if you are working on a goal poopy like the ‘ghost’ or ‘the navy diver’).
For me this is like meditation and stress management. It can be for you too. Asshole maintainence is important. Ask a guy who is 88 if his ass works like it did when he was 16. I want to be responsible for cleaning my ass until i die, unless of course I am paying for it, like with a hooker or something.
Anyhow off to hit the books, keep it real… real smooth, and hopefully floating.
-chris
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