Retarded Suicide Bombers

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]lumbernac wrote:

  1. Yes, Martyrdom has been upheld by a lot of other groups, even christianity but the difference between Christianity and Islam’s concept of martyrdom is that while Christianity would have its members killed for it’s religion, Islam has historically wanted those killed to actually do something to advance it. [/quote]

Not “a lot of other groups”. Every other group.

Wherever you have a cause, you have martyrs.

You apparently forgot to post the link.

And once again, I do not doubt for a second that the Iranian leadership would resort to such methods to defend their newborn republic. What I challenged, is your presentation of the issue as a fact when the best evidence is the account of some mysterious (and to this day anonymous) “Eastern European Journalist”.

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[quote]pat wrote:
Sloth wrote:

There is no debate…Atheists win hands down.[/quote]

I dunno…who do they call out to during oral sex?

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[quote]lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
Who armed the Iranians? Why aren’t you pissed at them?

Did the Iranians wage a war of aggression on anyone?[/quote]

Lebanon, Israel, Argentina…

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[quote]Chushin wrote:
My former partner of 8 years, an immigrant from Iran, saw this with her own eyes.

But then, you probably won’t believe me… [/quote]

Might surprise you, but I don’t see the point of engaging in such debates without assuming good faith. In my view, that would be utterly useless. So, yes I do believe you.

Now, this “former partner” of yours, should consider going public with her account. The alleged “plastic keys” and 10 years old kids, remain something that X heard from Y through Z. It would be nice to finally have someone who actually saw this horrific policy going on record. Although the Iranians were in a position of self–defense with a recently dissolved officers’ core and with 1/10 of the tanks of Saddam, what they allegedly did would be considered a crime against Humanity and should be properly documented.

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[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

I dunno…who do they call out to during oral sex?[/quote]

Hard to say… it usually comes out rather mumbled.

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Lol.

Hey, they said today that maybe the women were not retarded.

I’ll see if I can find an article on it…

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[quote]Chushin wrote:
lixy wrote:
Chushin wrote:
My former partner of 8 years, an immigrant from Iran, saw this with her own eyes.

But then, you probably won’t believe me…

Might surprise you, but I don’t see the point of engaging in such debates without assuming good faith. In my view, that would be utterly useless. So, yes I do believe you.

Now, this “former partner” of yours, should consider going public with her account. The alleged “plastic keys” and 10 years old kids, remain something that X heard from Y through Z. It would be nice to finally have someone who actually saw this horrific policy going on record. Although the Iranians were in a position of self–defense with a recently dissolved officers’ core and with 1/10 of the tanks of Saddam, what they allegedly did would be considered a crime against Humanity and should be properly documented.

See Lixy? You do have a modicum of …something…that makes it worth arguing with you.

Unlike a certain Austrian “person” to whom “good faith” is a curse word.

As for the “former partner,” well, there’s a reason why she’s “former,” and I have (happily) lost track of her.

On an only-slightly relevant note, I also vividly remember an interesting episode with her mother, who visited from Iran.

We were all leaving the house together one day, and all of a sudden the mother frantically dashed back inside. Seems a yellow car (the same color of the cars of Iran’s religious police or whatever) had come down the road, and she was scared to death because her hair wasn’t covered…
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The "plastic key " story is not a myth, and Lixy’s typical obfuscation doesn’t work:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1620146/posts

The full article was published in The New Republic on April 24, 2006. Facts.

Ahmadinejad did send children to be blown up in minefields, with little colored plastic keys to heaven around their necks.
One wonders what color key Lixy may have.

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[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
Chushin wrote:
lixy wrote:
Chushin wrote:
My former partner of 8 years, an immigrant from Iran, saw this with her own eyes.

But then, you probably won’t believe me…

Might surprise you, but I don’t see the point of engaging in such debates without assuming good faith. In my view, that would be utterly useless. So, yes I do believe you.

Now, this “former partner” of yours, should consider going public with her account. The alleged “plastic keys” and 10 years old kids, remain something that X heard from Y through Z. It would be nice to finally have someone who actually saw this horrific policy going on record. Although the Iranians were in a position of self–defense with a recently dissolved officers’ core and with 1/10 of the tanks of Saddam, what they allegedly did would be considered a crime against Humanity and should be properly documented.

See Lixy? You do have a modicum of …something…that makes it worth arguing with you.

Unlike a certain Austrian “person” to whom “good faith” is a curse word.

As for the “former partner,” well, there’s a reason why she’s “former,” and I have (happily) lost track of her.

On an only-slightly relevant note, I also vividly remember an interesting episode with her mother, who visited from Iran.

We were all leaving the house together one day, and all of a sudden the mother frantically dashed back inside. Seems a yellow car (the same color of the cars of Iran’s religious police or whatever) had come down the road, and she was scared to death because her hair wasn’t covered…

The "plastic key " story is not a myth, and Lixy’s typical obfuscation doesn’t work:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1620146/posts

The full article was published in The New Republic on April 24, 2006. Facts.

Ahmadinejad did send children to be blown up in minefields, with little colored plastic keys to heaven around their necks. [/quote]

You have trouble reading Doc? Here is what I challenged: the alleged “plastic keys” and 10 years old kids.

I see absolutely nothing in your article that adds anything to this discussion besides what we all already heard about.

And Kuntzel? Is that the best you can do? The guy from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem who was banned from speaking at Leeds University last year?

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[quote]lixy wrote:
DrSkeptix wrote:
Chushin wrote:
lixy wrote:
Chushin wrote:

The full article was published in The New Republic on April 24, 2006. Facts.

Ahmadinejad did send children to be blown up in minefields, with little colored plastic keys to heaven around their necks.

You have trouble reading Doc? Here is what I challenged: the alleged “plastic keys” and 10 years old kids.
[/quote]
Mighty specific there in your ethics, Scumbag. Did you choose the age of 10 because you knew the facts, or because that is the age of the boys you prefer to bugger?

Precisely, Scumbag, this article is established and fact-checked against your lies, years ago. It is not new because the truth is not new, but your lies keep changing.

[quote]
And Kuntzel? Is that the best you can do? The guy from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem who was banned from speaking at Leeds University last year?[/quote]

And you, Scumbag, have the continuing gall to claim the invalidity of the ad hominem argument? But it is allowed especially for honest Jewish reporters? This article, and its facts, defy your antisemitic characterization of its author, and since the truth is a discomfort to the liars. If Leeds University has its own hateful reasons to ban Jews for being Jews, does this give your lies some credit?

There is a reason, Scumbag, why I choose not to address you directly, and why I choose not to do your work for you. You are filth, a lying protector and apologist for filth, and now…I feel, after contact with you, even here, a need to take a shower.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

Unlike a certain Austrian “person” to whom “good faith” is a curse word.

[/quote]

Your complete inability to either form or convey any coherent string of ideas is not caused but merely revealed by debating me.

If I am too much for you too to handle, it is moot to look for the reason in my ebil personality, your lack of intellect and mental capacity is the far likelier explanation.

Occams razor and all that, look it up.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
Chushin wrote:

Unlike a certain Austrian “person” to whom “good faith” is a curse word.

Your complete inability to either form or convey any coherent string of ideas is not caused but merely revealed by debating me.

If I am too much for you too to handle, it is moot to look for the reason in my ebil personality, your lack of intellect and mental capacity is the far likelier explanation.

Occams razor and all that, look it up.

He he. Oh my! His little feelings are hurt again! These master racers are just so sensitive anymore…

Hey Orion! I’m curious: Are your pronouncements about life in America based at all on time spent there, or just on what you read in the media? I’m just ask’n…(and you ain’t answer’n!)

PS Your English isn’t bad for an Austrian, but in absolute terms? It pretty much sucks. You ebil man you!!

[/quote]

You just hate me for my freedom.

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[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
You have trouble reading Doc? Here is what I challenged: the alleged “plastic keys” and 10 years old kids.

Mighty specific there in your ethics, Scumbag. Did you choose the age of 10 because you knew the facts, or because that is the age of the boys you prefer to bugger? [/quote]

Skep, you are either and idiot of the highest order, or simply can’t be bothered to read my posts.

I repeatedly stated that I don’t know “the facts” and was seeking to collect input on the topic. I wasn’t there and nobody that was ever went public with the story. You’d think one of those numerous people fleeing Iran must have seen it happen and that the UN or some EU institution would provide the stage for him/her.

I didn’t “choose the age of 10”. Lumbernac was the one who made the claim. And while I personally have no problem with allowing 15 or 16 years old defend their homeland when under attack, doing the same for 10 years old is horror itself. This would be a sure to rally up everybody against you even if the sleazeball who waged a war of aggression on your land. The Iraqi war on Iran made plenty of orphans, but that is no possible excuse to gather 10 years old and exploit their desire for revenge in that way.

[quote]I see absolutely nothing in your article that adds anything to this discussion besides what we all already heard about.

Precisely, Scumbag, this article is established and fact-checked against your lies, years ago. It is not new because the truth is not new, but your lies keep changing. [/quote]

Established and fact-checked? By who? The tooth-fairy? Martin Peretz?

More importantly, what “lies”? I challenged - in the nicest possible way - Lumbernac’s statement that there is any evidence of the Iranian leadership giving “plastic keys” to 10 years old and sending them to die on the battlefield. I stated that it wouldn’t surprise me if it turned to be real, but that before such evidence emerges, he should refrain from presenting as fact.

[quote]And Kuntzel? Is that the best you can do? The guy from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem who was banned from speaking at Leeds University last year?

And you, Scumbag, have the continuing gall to claim the invalidity of the ad hominem argument? But it is allowed especially for honest Jewish reporters? This article, and its facts, defy your antisemitic characterization of its author, and since the truth is a discomfort to the liars. If Leeds University has its own hateful reasons to ban Jews for being Jews, does this give your lies some credit? [/quote]

What in the name of God are you talking about? “Antisemitic characterization of its author”? Can you read at all?

When trying to elevate rumors and hearsay to the status of “fact”, it does help more if the source isn’t so evidently and blatantly biased.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
Who armed the Iranians? Why aren’t you pissed at them?

Did the Iranians wage a war of aggression on anyone?

Lebanon, Israel, Argentina…[/quote]

U.S.

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[quote]hedo wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
Who armed the Iranians? Why aren’t you pissed at them?

Did the Iranians wage a war of aggression on anyone?

Lebanon, Israel, Argentina…

U.S.

[/quote]

And after some of you have bought a dictionary and looked up what war actually means we can continue that discussion.

Oh yeah, y´all were the victims of a war of aggression waged by Iran.

Poor fuckers.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
Chushin wrote:

Unlike a certain Austrian “person” to whom “good faith” is a curse word.

Your complete inability to either form or convey any coherent string of ideas is not caused but merely revealed by debating me.

If I am too much for you too to handle, it is moot to look for the reason in my ebil personality, your lack of intellect and mental capacity is the far likelier explanation.

Occams razor and all that, look it up.

He he. Oh my! His little feelings are hurt again! These master racers are just so sensitive anymore…

Hey Orion! I’m curious: Are your pronouncements about life in America based at all on time spent there, or just on what you read in the media? I’m just ask’n…(and you ain’t answer’n!)

PS Your English isn’t bad for an Austrian, but in absolute terms? It pretty much sucks. You ebil man you!!

You just hate me for my freedom.

You’re welcome. But try to remember where it came from from now on, ok?

BTW, your response ia a pretty pathetic – not to mention more tired than your right hand on a lonely Saturday night-- comeback, you know.

So how long did you live in the US again?[/quote]

I will continue to shop and watch stupid TV until you go away.

Otherwise you win.