Resting HR for Combat Athlete

LOL It’s probably good but nothing to brag about. I’d say it’s like benching 275.

yeah Im not sure of exactly what it would indicate except how strong your heart is. If you do long distance running or some form of steady state cardio it will not be as low as if you do high intensity. steady state cardio builds the left ventricle more making it larger and High intensity will make the heart stronger to provide more blood per pulse. Im not an expert at all im just regurgitating what I read somewhere else but I did see results in heart rate by doing HIIT. When i get blood tests for my fights and the ring doctors always comment how low my heart rate is. Its normally better than most people 10 years younger than me.

I still get tired in a 3 round fight especially if you go from standup to ground to standup, it really takes a toll. I don’t really get winded just tired.

This is what I have gathered from this thread:

  1. If some dude walks up to me telling me his heart rate is 60 bpm I’m going to laugh at him and crush his ego because mine should be 59 by then. If this ever happens, I bet he could take a piss in FightingIrish’s shoes.

  2. RHR could be an indicator of something, or nothing at all really, and you wouldn’t know the difference unless you took measurements over longer periods of time. As in a training cycle.

  3. If you know what to look for, you could use your RHR as a gauge in a broader scientific approach during a training mesocycle.

  4. Successfully lowering your RHR does not necessarily equal better conditioning for your sport.

  5. Don’t worry about it, keep training hard and do your best.

Thanks for the information. You have all pretty much put this subject to rest for me, and likely saved me some time and possibly misguided effort. I may invest in a heart rate monitor at some point to at least use while doing steady state cardio (cycling or running) just to ensure I’m keeping my bpm high enough to attain the desired training effect.

[quote]Bondslave wrote:
This is what I have gathered from this thread:

  1. If some dude walks up to me telling me his heart rate is 60 bpm I’m going to laugh at him and crush his ego because mine should be 59 by then. If this ever happens, I bet he could take a piss in FightingIrish’s shoes.
    [/quote]

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Mine is in the 50-60s sitting. It seems to bump around a bunch. I once took a reading as I was falling asleep and it was dropping down into the upper 40s. The sad thing about this, at least for the OP, was that I didn’t train at the time. The point is, I think a large part of resting heart rate is also genetic. If you’re naturally high, it could take much greater conditioning to drop you down into the low 50s, but by the time you were a top competitor, it would be there.

Read all of this. It will answer your questions. The good information is written by Joel Jamieson.

sherdog.net/forums/f13/how-finally-solve-your-conditioning-problem-788235/

Seems that working HIIT at the right load and pace will make the walls of your heart thicker and stronger therefore giving you more explosive power, which is good for fighting and will lower your bpm. Extended steady state cardio makes the left ventricle larger giving you endurance. You need to match your training to have the most explosive power you can for as long as your fights will be. There is also a bunch of stuff about engaging the fast twitch muscles with different types of training. Def. worth reading IMO.

gonna take a look, but i’m bit skeptical , sherdog is a trollfest.

It’s a not very meanigful number, as lower doesn’t necessarily mean better, in contrast to say, a bench or squat number, where a much higher weight pretty much means more strength in the respective muscles.

It’s useful in understanding your body and fine tuning your training - If you already have a base and know your stuff.
In my opinion not for a beginner.
Good for advanced athletes and when making sure that eager out-of-shape guys or fatties who try to shed a lot of blubber in a short time don’t kill themselves.
Third, it’s invaluable when trying to overcome certain forms of heart disease.

[quote]devildog_jim wrote:
Irish - My RHR is 52, and my wind sucks in the ring (compared to the pros I’ve been sparring). Last time I was in the hospital on a painkiller / muscle relaxer combo I was setting off the crash alarms because my HR and breathing dipped so low. It’s just a number, VO2 max is a much better indicator of endurance.[/quote]

x 2. My resting heart rate is 46-52, spins the cardiologist right out especially since I was born with an aortal valve prolapse. In layterms, this just means one of my heart valves doesn’t seal properly and blood pumps back the wrong way, occassionally casuing murmurs. Didn’t stop me from fighting but I did gas a few times for no reason (as I was technically fit). I can still pull through to the end but that’s by sheer guts, not complete comfort cardiovascularily.

The resting heart rate means jack. Some have a higher ejection fraction which means for every pump of the heart, more volume of blood can be pumped out and ciculated. Obviously, this would reduce rhr.

Anyways, as others have alluded, v02 max and recovery heart rates are much more important

I’m 45, BF percentage is in the high 20s by BodPod. Been training boxing a little over a year and weight training for 3 years. Not s lot of cardio outside the boxing 2x/wk though I do 30 min of steady state cardio at 80% HR 2-3 times a week. My RHR is in the mid 50"s and my HR recovery at my last treadmill EKG for my boxing passbook was from 149 to 96 in 2 minutes. Not bad for a fat old guy… Now working on losing weight and getting to 15% BF so I’m not boxing guys 6" taller.

[quote]humble wrote:

[quote]devildog_jim wrote:
Irish - My RHR is 52, and my wind sucks in the ring (compared to the pros I’ve been sparring). Last time I was in the hospital on a painkiller / muscle relaxer combo I was setting off the crash alarms because my HR and breathing dipped so low. It’s just a number, VO2 max is a much better indicator of endurance.[/quote]

x 2. My resting heart rate is 46-52, spins the cardiologist right out especially since I was born with an aortal valve prolapse. In layterms, this just means one of my heart valves doesn’t seal properly and blood pumps back the wrong way, occassionally casuing murmurs. Didn’t stop me from fighting but I did gas a few times for no reason (as I was technically fit). I can still pull through to the end but that’s by sheer guts, not complete comfort cardiovascularily.

The resting heart rate means jack. Some have a higher ejection fraction which means for every pump of the heart, more volume of blood can be pumped out and ciculated. Obviously, this would reduce rhr.

Anyways, as others have alluded, v02 max and recovery heart rates are much more important[/quote]

I’m 40 years, my resting heart rate is between 44 to 54. Pretty much everything has been said already, but I’ll add, that I sometimes check my RHR before training to find were my resting level is. If RHR is over 50, it does usually promise not so good training session, as I am not as well rested as if it was lower. The lower my RHR, the better my training usually goes.

Second thing, I think it matters more what is your HB reserve is and by that I mean what is the difference between RHR and maxHR. The bigger the difference, the more RPM’s you have as with cars.

Check out 8weeksout.com (Joel Jamiesons site), if you want to know more about using HR monitors and training HR’s. I also did the Bioforce test, which they use for fighters to find their strengths and weaknesses.

I’m 23 years old, my conditioning isn’t where is used to be as I have gained 16 pounds in the last year and a half to steadily jump weightclasses. But my RHR is 72 and I seldom gas out in a match, although my conditioning isn’t that great.

I support the guy who said is was partially genetics. Btw I do not smoke or drink (heavily, 2 glasses of wine over dinner sometimes).

lol i must suck, my RHR is around 70 and i train like a starved african child where the prize would be a truckload of food.

This thread prompted me to test mine again, 44 BP (even I was surprised), local fatigue is what gets the best of me during hard training sessions and competitions, not oxidative enough according my own blood lactate tests, I reach anaerobic threshold early on, need to do more extended work periods at a high intensity. I only do Rowing sprints for Straight up conditioning training atm.

[quote]devildog_jim wrote:
Irish - My RHR is 52, and my wind sucks in the ring (compared to the pros I’ve been sparring). Last time I was in the hospital on a painkiller / muscle relaxer combo I was setting off the crash alarms because my HR and breathing dipped so low. It’s just a number, VO2 max is a much better indicator of endurance.[/quote]

I 2nd that. My resting hr is low 50s but I gas out easily. I’m pretty jacked for a fighter too and that kills endurance.