RESTART Attempt? Please Help with Labs?

Alright so I got in to see a new doctor which I was not optimistic about but was hoping to get the TPO antibodies tested. He argued with me about the TSH level telling me it was within range and even if it was slightly above the 4.0 top end, if FT3 is normal there is no need for concern. I expressed my concern that maybe the FT3 is fluctuating and there could be early signs of a thyroid problem, as the TSH is always highish and seems to have gotten progressively higher. He said that my symptoms are almost definitely from low T and offered to give me a shot of Testosterone to “see if it helped” - the second time I’ve had a doctor offer this!!

Although he seemed pretty uninformed I thought maybe he was open minded to the appropriate meds needed for a restart - this did not turn out to be the case. Just wanted to pump me with test every couple of weeks without any ancillaries. All round, another wasted trip to an uncooperative doc - still no TPO testing done.

I am thinking though, as much as I’d like to know if there is a deeper thyroid issue going on, nothing has definitively pointed to there being one. I do know, however, that I have low T and have a low functioning HPTA producing very little LH and FSH. I feel like unless I can find a way to have my own testing done online (in Canada this seems to be non existent), I should start planning to proceed with a restart attempt. If it fails, then I’ll have to try and look deeper and find other issues - perhaps TRT will be the only answer, or maybe there is something else I can fix. But I think I might need to just try some sort of protocol similar to what I’ve already proposed in this thread.

I’m still working out some details regarding whether I should add in low dose arimidex at the end of my SERM treatment, as I taper off and then continuing the AI for a while before tapering off that as well ( I think KSman recommends this). Also trying to determine whether I should shoot some triptorelin at the beginning of the SERM run, or maybe midway through. Based on all I’ve read, I think legit triptorelin will likely help me at least somewhat - and should work well with the SERM.

Once I’ve sorted some of this out I will put up a tentative final restart protocol proposal if anyone is willing to have a look or share some knowledge on these final issues. Thanks to anyone for any assistance.

I’m amazed how it seems impossible to find a good doc, and not just on these issues. What are they learning all these years in school and beyond? In my area, it’s now next to impossible to find one when it’s not an emergency, so imagine finding a good one…

[quote]SwD wrote:
I’m amazed how it seems impossible to find a good doc, and not just on these issues. What are they learning all these years in school and beyond? In my area, it’s now next to impossible to find one when it’s not an emergency, so imagine finding a good one…[/quote]

Ya it’s pretty terrible. If I hadn’t been as lucky as I have uncover the right information at exactly the times I did, I’m sure I would’ve continued to rely completely on the inadequate knowledge and treatments of doctors. If that ha been the case I would’ve been in much worse shape then I am now and might not even have a chance at restart.

This is not to say that there are no docs out there who can competently deal with these issues, but most just don’t know or dont care enough to get it right. I don’t know why there are so many knowledgeable doctors in many other areas but seemingly none in the TRT context. Even harder than finding a TRT doc who might prescribe T and the appropriate ancillaries, is finding a doctor who will prescribe the necessary drugs for a restart without any exo T.

Hey Robert,

Where in the Province are you? PM me if you’d like.

I’m in Alberta too, and actually under going a Natural restart myself. (Self treatment)

Good luck man, we can perhaps work together.