Rest Day Importance?


Here’s a camera phone picture for whoever asked. I’m 5*10

Anyways, back the my question. I guess I’ve never understood the importance of days off because so many programs say that cardio can be done on off days. I guess the idea of trying to recuperate the entire body but at the same time working it out confused me. I’m obviously not going to do a chest day if my chest doesn’t feel recovered, but I’m just curious about the general cycle.

So the consensus that I got from a few who actually replied to my question is that the rest days are important, but that I don’t need to take but one or maybe two of them per week?

Thanks.

Don’t ask us why, you HAVE to train your entire body to devellop a balanced physique. Bench presses and curls are the big ego boosters, but deadlift and squats are the big mass builders. If you already have big legs, that’s a great reason for becoming a squating machine. Theses exercices are one of the differences between T-men and frat-boys.

However, you are shedding light on an interesting issue. I was wondering what a rest day should be. I just decided to skip my rest day for this week, I will do my mitt work instead with my boxing coach. Can we perform this kind of work on rest days, for instance non-taxing skill work?

It’s not your goal to look like Ronnie Coleman? That’s fine, neither is mine, but what is your goal? To have your biceps proportional to your triceps? Can you take a picture?

If you went out of your way to use a measuring tape for your legs in one of your pictures, surely you could show us your lagging biceps as well and convince us that you should dedicate an entire workout to them instead of your legs.

27 inches suck, sorry to burst your bubble. Mine are 26 inches and I’m 2 inches shorter than you are. You act like you don’t want to get “too big”. Don’t worry, it takes a lot more to get to that point.

The other posters are right. If you really don’t want your legs bigger, fine, but I don’t care, train them, even minimally. You are begging for an injury and a half-assed metabolism if you think that your legs will stay strong the second you stop training them.

As for your original question, you really do sound like an overtrained beginner. Knowledgable trainers put their rest days to good use by eating and sleeping. Your 1 hour, 20 minutes at each workout is way too long. You should be in and out in 1 hour or less. It’s good that you are getting 10 hours of sleeping a night, though.

Rest days are extremely important. Back after the French revolution there was an attempt made to make the week 10 days long as opposed to 7. The idea of a 7 day week is a Biblical concept. Basically God created everything in 6 days and rested on the 7th. He set aside the 7th as a day of rest and called it the Sabbath.

Okay, a little theology lesson, but to the point. When the rest period was changed from once every 7th day to once every 10th day it was short lived experiment. Not even the horses (an animal with extreme strength and stamina) were able to stay well. They started getting sick and dying. Just like the horse, your body can only adapt if there is rest. I have found that an occasional break from working out (provided it is no longer than a week) sometimes provides gains.

As far as the leg issue, I am building a home gym and about 3 months ago got the equipment to squat and deadlift. I have noticed significant improvement in my UPPER BODY adding these exercises. My legs really have not changed much in size, but the shape and density have definitely changed. What seems to work best for me is heavy compound exercises (squats, deadlifts, rows, dips, bench presses, pullup, chins, etc.)

Another question raised was dealing with cardio on off days. It would be more accurate to say aerobic exercise on off days. I won’t get too technical, but aerobic exercise is exercise that uses a lot of muscle, does so very gently, and is continuous. Under such demands much of the energy needs of the muscles are supplied by utilizing oxygen. Because these work-outs use the muscle gently they can be used on off days.

Be aware that cardio and aerobic are not the same thing. Cardio refers to the cardiorespiratory system. There are two basic ways to exercise the cardiorespiratory system. One is aerobic. The other is anaerobic. Anaerobic exercise is intense; so intense that the body cannot meet the energy demands by using oxygen. It has to use other energy sources - primarily creatine phosphate in the muscle and sugar in the muscle and blood system.

Under extreme conditions it can also start breaking down muscle and use protein. When working out anaerobically the muscle is in oxygen-debt. The body will try to repay that debt, and the heart and lungs will work harder. Watch a sprinter after a 100 meter race or the big dog in the gym that just squatted 500 for 3 reps. Both are extreme examples of anaerobic exercises, but if you watch both guys will be extremely winded.

The reason is they are in oxygen-debt, and the body is trying to repay that debt. In both cases they are working out anaerobically, but are taxing their cardiorespiratory system. One can quite easily condition their cardiorespiratory system through anaerobic exercise IF they chose exercises that use a lot of muscle and IF they do not rest too long betweens sets. In that case the demands of oxygen debt work the heart and lungs.

If one does cardio through the aerobic means then it may be appropriate for an off day. If one does cardio through the anaerobic means, than the muscle is going to need rest between workout sessions.

Here is the cool part about doing cardio through anaerobic means. Which has the potential of requiring a higher workload on the heart and lungs: aerobic or anaerobic? Let’s use an analogy. Which has more potential to drain the money out of your wallet: having a budget where the input of money equals the output in a steady fashion, or being in continuous debt? Obvious it is the latter. If you use exercises that use a lot of muscle and minimize rest periods, anaerobic exercise can provide a greater stimulus to the cardio system.

Alright, I’ve gotten a little long winded, but hopefully this helps.

[quote]slickid wrote:
So the consensus that I got from a few who actually replied to my question is that the rest days are important, but that I don’t need to take but one or maybe two of them per week?
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Yes, rest days are important, but that doesn’t mean you have to be a slug. You can have active recovery days. So, if cardiovascular improvement is one of your goals, then you could do cardio on that day.

If you are truly lifting heavy 7 days per week you will see a decreased benefit and overtime it will lead to overtraining.

You also need to look at volume. If you are doing 24 sets per day 4 or 5 days per week and go to 24 sets per day 7 days per week, it is much different than going to 14-18 sets 7 days per week. So if you felt the need to train more days/week you should decrease the total number of sets.

The problem with your workout is that everyday is an upper body day, so even though it is split into bodyparts, there is still a lot of crossover and there is not enough time for your muscles to repair themselves. If you had lower body days in there (yes, we know, your legs are too big already), but if you did have lower body days then you would have longer in between upper body work, and could probably get away with less total days off per week.

After seeing the pic, please work at your leg. You won’t add mass, you will probably mostly add some shape to them, hopefully.

[quote]slickid wrote:
Here’s a camera phone picture for whoever asked. I’m 5*10

Anyways, back the my question. I guess I’ve never understood the importance of days off because so many programs say that cardio can be done on off days. I guess the idea of trying to recuperate the entire body but at the same time working it out confused me. I’m obviously not going to do a chest day if my chest doesn’t feel recovered, but I’m just curious about the general cycle.

So the consensus that I got from a few who actually replied to my question is that the rest days are important, but that I don’t need to take but one or maybe two of them per week?

Thanks.[/quote]

Im not gonn make you change your ideas of a great physique but your legs look pretty small to me and I think you could stand to develop some power.

REST DAYS? well it goes something like this if your burning your fuel up during a workout less is going to repair your muscles. Your muscles will be working and using what your feeding not overcompensating.

You CNS , adrenal glands get effected from hard workouts and they need some time to recalibrate and reset your neuro endro axis. Otherwise your hormones will not be optimal, igf, testosterone, dhea , gh, etc.

Another factor is that gluthione levels get depleted with hard training and people fail to remember that it can put a major damper on your bodies processes.

[quote]Imen de Naars wrote:
After seeing the pic, please work at your leg. You won’t add mass, you will probably mostly add some shape to them, hopefully.[/quote]

They have plenty of shape for my liking, that picture was taken with my leg off the ground and my foot twisted in so my hamstrings could be seen. Maybe this older picture would show better.

Special thanks to big daddy, modi and other who helped me out. I think I’ll split my bicep and tricep work onto the chest and back days and then do shoulders and…ugh…some leg work on a third day.

I, like you, do not want any more size to my legs. In fact, I’m actively trying to decrease their size and inch or so. Mine are also 27". Mine are a little more shaped than yours, but still have an inch’s worth of fat around them, so I know that should be a problem.

However I never considered quitting leg work. I read a while back about how to change rep schemes and such - you may want to read that. I still want to shed fat and you need to work those large leg muscles to achieve that. Plus I want to stay STRONG, and that means working legs. Maybe you don’t want to be strong though, I dunno.

Add the leg work to your biceps day. You don’t have to do much, but it’ll do wonders for you.

[quote]slickid wrote:
Imen de Naars wrote:
After seeing the pic, please work at your leg. You won’t add mass, you will probably mostly add some shape to them, hopefully.

They have plenty of shape for my liking, that picture was taken with my leg off the ground and my foot twisted in so my hamstrings could be seen. Maybe this older picture would show better.

Special thanks to big daddy, modi and other who helped me out. I think I’ll split my bicep and tricep work onto the chest and back days and then do shoulders and…ugh…some leg work on a third day.[/quote]

lower volume on legs