Plenty of things.
I am just not about to say that the riots are because of Democratic rule, and that they would not exist, or would have been squashed quickly under Republican rule. That is too much of a stretch, and not backed by anything. It is correlation being confused with causation.
I don’t know what the evidence against them was since I don’t work in a police department nor am I a prosecutor, but there is no way that everyone is innocent. Also, rioting is a criminal offence and there is no doubt that they were rioting. The only thing stopping them from being charged is the lack of will to do so.
Innocence is irrelevant in criminal law in the US. It is guilty or not guilty. Guilty means enough evidence to prove without reasonable doubt to a jury that the crime was committed. I am guessing that many that they let go they didn’t have enough evidence against, or that the crime was not significant. Again I am open to evidence to the contrary.
You are right about charging, the thing is, the prosecutor will drop it if they don’t think they can win, which I am betting was the case for many of these instances.
I am guessing with any of the serious crimes, that the suspects were not released upon arrival to the police department.
It’s just one of many tenets. No that alone isn’t a step towards communism, but in context with everything else, it is. I am aware of government medicine, I have been treated medically in the Czech Republic and Italy.
I don’t care to argue about the virtues of that… We have problems with medicine here, most of which, ironically was caused by government programs.
What country are you in?
England. I have lived in other countries in the past.
Thanks for clarifying about healthcare. It’s not so much that government healthcare is better or worse but it’s what moving to it represents.
I don’t think all democrats support it, but most of the politicians sure do, for the most part. Again, I don’t think you are nuts or mean, or want unfettered violence, but too many democrat politicians do, either tacitly or overtly. They just are… Look at the Portland Mayor and governor, look at Michigan’s governor Wittmer, the idiot mayor of Chicago, the biggest idiot in the world, DeBlasio…
They are trying to implement these ‘theories’ as policy. What do you think the stated intentions of BLM are? Don’t tell me they aren’t political, they take donations through ‘ActBlue’, who primarily funnels the money to democrat politicians.
There also specified critical race and gender theory prescriptions in the “Green New Deal” and the “HERO’s act”. They are trying to make it law…
Come on Ben…
“As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.”
https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/#
Here is the Biden-Sanders, uh, platform:
https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6983111-UNITY-TASK-FORCE-RECOMMENDATIONS
Fair enough. Insurance isn’t the problem, it’s cost. But I digress.
Uh, when the moderator at the primary debates asked who was in favor of providing free health care for illegals everybody raised their hand, including Biden. You can see the insanity in the manifesto I linked.
And the ones that aren’t had few problems and things were crushed when they got violent. San Diego for instance, had very little in the way of violent riots. And it’s totally fair when the leaders were offered Federal assistance, time and time and time and time again, refused it and allowed their cities rather to burn.
See the article I posted. Many were charged with felony riot, that would be easy to prove considering the circumstances. As for the other charges it depends on the details, and like I said I don’t have any of that available.
But there are also some left wing prosecutors who are easy on certain criminals such as these ones.
The little known fact is that DHS deputized the Oregon State Police as Federal Marshall’s. So now the arrested are charged by a federal lawyer and appear in the Federal Court they tried to burn down… Now it makes more sense why they tried to burn it down, they didn’t want to be inside.
This is a Trump electoral map, not a map of republican held areas but good enough…
Most of the violence, rioting and looting is occurring, here, here, here here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here…
That is quite the claim. Any proof? BTW, this isn’t proof:
I am open to hear what these are?
FWIW, I don’t think we should try to help certain racial groups specifically. I believe helping poor people in general is a better way to go, and it will disproportionally help racial groups that are doing poorly.
This is new to me. I am willing to admit that I didn’t know that. I doubt any of it happens. I am also unsure exactly what that sentence means. Does it just mean forcing registration? What does that mean?
I am okay with emergency health care for illegals. Stuff like accidents, or heart attacks. Seems like the compassionate thing to do. Not sure about things that are not needing immediate attention, and that could be covered in the illegal immigrant’s home country.
I am not sure how I would answer that question TBH. I have a nuanced opinion on it, and a support or not support is kinda a false dilemma.
This has happened in some of the big blue cities as well. There are just a lot more big cities ruled by Democrats. I don’t think we can get to the violence in big cities is Democrats fault. It just isn’t supported by data.
Most prosecutors are easy on criminals when they don’t think they can win the case.
Well, if jolly ol’ England is a sign of things to come for the U.S. then we also should have a conservative sweep like you guys had…
Come and visit, this place is fucking nuts right now… Just don’t go to NYC, they may never let you out…
Keep in mind that the blue also represents where the people are. If you made a circle in a red space, it would be mostly empty land.
That is not what I am referring to.
If you want to prove your point, provide a long list of all the people charged in recent riots, particularly in Democrat-run cities and states. From what I have seen and heard, it looks like only a few people here and there were charged. Rioting is a felony, and it’s not that hard to prove that some of these people were taking part in the riot. That’s the easiest charge to prove of everything that has happened.
How many circles can you draw around big red cities on the map? It is pretty hard to do, as even in red states the big city is blue. To me it is an urban problem, not a Democrat problem.
I’ll give you Salt Lake City, but that is hardly a big city with about 215K residents.
I did provide examples, see… Plus Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, Omar, Lightfoot in Chicago, I could be here all night providing proof. Just look at what some of these nuts said about the violence. Rep. Jerry Nadler actually uttered the words that the antifa violence was a “myth” perpetuated only in D.C.
I provided you links to Biden’s own website and the Biden-Sanders platform. At least look it over before you ask me for more evidence. That should be enough for any thinking person to see that the Biden platform has flown over the coo-coo’s nest.
I am not looking for people to die, but that is different than providing free healthcare and free education to people who largely do not pay any taxes here.
I know an illegal person, I am not too thrilled with him taking advantage of the system and he has asked me to do illegal shit for him, which I politely declined.
But, he has never paid anything but sales tax and even through the shut down for Americans, he never missed a single day of work.
I have called my rep’s and senators to complain. Why the hell are illegal aliens allowed to work when the rest of us are not?
I drew the circles of the places I knew had major on going violence, recently, off the top of my head. We had riots for a couple of days in Atlanta, but then the National Guard came in and shut it down. And Atlanta has a democrat mayor. Many Georgians were daring them, practically begging the rioters to come to the suburbs, they refused to go… I can’t imagine why…
The original claim was made by you that it was basically catch and release with violent rioters. I have doubted that claim, and have no responsibility to prove your unsupported claim wrong. You have the burden in this case to prove your point correct.
Sorry, I must have missed the part where these people and the ones you previously listed want unfettered violence. You listed a bunch of Democrats, but I haven’t seen proof that they want violence.
This isn’t proof that he or the others want unfettered violence. It is taking a leap to assume that.
Go see what they said about the violence. Google their name and “riots” and see what comes up…
Hell, Kamala Harris told the rioters to keep it up. “…it’s not going to stop and they should not stop.” It’s 30 seconds, listen to Kamala herself say this insane shit…
Do you really believe the the VP candidate did not know these were violent riots?
Biden’s campaign staff donated money to bail out rioters…
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-biden-bail-idUSKBN2360SZ
