[quote]smh23 wrote:
The last primary season was utterly pathetic, but let’s see what happens in 2015-16. Democrats haven’t held the White House for three full consecutive terms since Truman. If I had to bet right now, I’d bet that the executive branch is going to change hands.[/quote]
I doubt it.
And this is why I think so.
Hillary will energize the Dems and she is the likely nominee so they will be out.
The Republicans are in my opinion a bad spot from things they have done to themselves. It used to be you could be a socially liberal fiscally conservative person and be part of the Republican party. That isn’t the case right now. They have moved those people out of the party. As well they are in the unenviable position of getting a larger and larger share of a shrinking demographic. And while the socially conservative aren’t a big enough group to deliver a national election they are still a big enough group to determine the Republican nominee. So largely you have a primary season that has to be run like its a senate campaign for a super red district that transitions into a national race where a lot of the social positions taken in that primary campaign are going to be at best seen as a joke at worst as racist , sexist and homophobic. [/quote]
Agree.
AS IT STANDS NOW, IF Hillary decides to not run; the GOP will have a stronger set of candidates. However; as you stated, groo, they are “chewing up their own” in the Primaries.
IF Hillary decides to run…her (and Bill) will be a very formidable Team to beat.
Mufasa[/quote]
You could always hope the Dems go crazy and nominate the VP. There would be much rejoicing in the GOP then.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
The last primary season was utterly pathetic, but let’s see what happens in 2015-16. Democrats haven’t held the White House for three full consecutive terms since Truman. If I had to bet right now, I’d bet that the executive branch is going to change hands.[/quote]
This wouldn’t be a surprise. Here is the field as I see it if the primaries were today:
Dem:
Hilary
Warren
Partick
Christie (Yes I’m going bold and say he switchs parties. The CPAC thing irked him.)
Biden
GOP
Rubio
Jindal
Rand Paul
Ben Carson
The woman governor who’s name escapes me at the moment
To people who understand Alinsky tatics and have brains the GOP field looks much more promising.
However as someone who will contend till the day he dies that if the media had any integrity at all Hilary would have won in 2008, She would be the least disasterous of the Dem field to win. Patick used to be decent, until he fully adopted Bamstyle. I doubt he’ll come back to Earth after tasting the holy water, GodKing sweat.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
The last primary season was utterly pathetic, but let’s see what happens in 2015-16. Democrats haven’t held the White House for three full consecutive terms since Truman. If I had to bet right now, I’d bet that the executive branch is going to change hands.[/quote]
I doubt it.
And this is why I think so.
Hillary will energize the Dems and she is the likely nominee so they will be out.
The Republicans are in my opinion a bad spot from things they have done to themselves. It used to be you could be a socially liberal fiscally conservative person and be part of the Republican party. That isn’t the case right now. They have moved those people out of the party. As well they are in the unenviable position of getting a larger and larger share of a shrinking demographic. And while the socially conservative aren’t a big enough group to deliver a national election they are still a big enough group to determine the Republican nominee. So largely you have a primary season that has to be run like its a senate campaign for a super red district that transitions into a national race where a lot of the social positions taken in that primary campaign are going to be at best seen as a joke at worst as racist , sexist and homophobic. [/quote]
Agree.
AS IT STANDS NOW, IF Hillary decides to not run; the GOP will have a stronger set of candidates. However; as you stated, groo, they are “chewing up their own” in the Primaries.
IF Hillary decides to run…her (and Bill) will be a very formidable Team to beat.
Mufasa[/quote]
Hillary will be in her 70’s. She had issues physically being SoS you think being President will be easier? I doubt she will be able to pull off what Reagan did. Wasn’t he filmed during the '80 campaign working out with his shirt off? That is when people stopped listening to the stupid remarks of Carter about Reagan’s age. I wouldn’t want to see Hillary without a shirt. Gross.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
The last primary season was utterly pathetic, but let’s see what happens in 2015-16. Democrats haven’t held the White House for three full consecutive terms since Truman. If I had to bet right now, I’d bet that the executive branch is going to change hands.[/quote]
I doubt it.
And this is why I think so.
Hillary will energize the Dems and she is the likely nominee so they will be out.
The Republicans are in my opinion a bad spot from things they have done to themselves. It used to be you could be a socially liberal fiscally conservative person and be part of the Republican party. That isn’t the case right now. They have moved those people out of the party. As well they are in the unenviable position of getting a larger and larger share of a shrinking demographic. And while the socially conservative aren’t a big enough group to deliver a national election they are still a big enough group to determine the Republican nominee. So largely you have a primary season that has to be run like its a senate campaign for a super red district that transitions into a national race where a lot of the social positions taken in that primary campaign are going to be at best seen as a joke at worst as racist , sexist and homophobic. [/quote]
Agree.
AS IT STANDS NOW, IF Hillary decides to not run; the GOP will have a stronger set of candidates. However; as you stated, groo, they are “chewing up their own” in the Primaries.
IF Hillary decides to run…her (and Bill) will be a very formidable Team to beat.
Mufasa[/quote]
Hillary will be in her 70’s. She had issues physically being SoS you think being President will be easier? I doubt she will be able to pull off what Reagan did. Wasn’t he filmed during the '80 campaign working out with his shirt off? That is when people stopped listening to the stupid remarks of Carter about Reagan’s age. I wouldn’t want to see Hillary without a shirt. Gross.[/quote]
I think it will be Hillary, but I don’t think it will matter. I think any nominee that can make it through the social conservative primary beatdown won’t be able to win a national election. The greater demographic doesn’t want to hear a socially conservative agenda. If that has to be on the table then its gonna be another loss.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
The last primary season was utterly pathetic, but let’s see what happens in 2015-16. Democrats haven’t held the White House for three full consecutive terms since Truman. If I had to bet right now, I’d bet that the executive branch is going to change hands.[/quote]
I doubt it.
And this is why I think so.
Hillary will energize the Dems and she is the likely nominee so they will be out.
The Republicans are in my opinion a bad spot from things they have done to themselves. It used to be you could be a socially liberal fiscally conservative person and be part of the Republican party. That isn’t the case right now. They have moved those people out of the party. As well they are in the unenviable position of getting a larger and larger share of a shrinking demographic. And while the socially conservative aren’t a big enough group to deliver a national election they are still a big enough group to determine the Republican nominee. So largely you have a primary season that has to be run like its a senate campaign for a super red district that transitions into a national race where a lot of the social positions taken in that primary campaign are going to be at best seen as a joke at worst as racist , sexist and homophobic. [/quote]
Agree.
AS IT STANDS NOW, IF Hillary decides to not run; the GOP will have a stronger set of candidates. However; as you stated, groo, they are “chewing up their own” in the Primaries.
IF Hillary decides to run…her (and Bill) will be a very formidable Team to beat.
Mufasa[/quote]
Hillary will be in her 70’s. She had issues physically being SoS you think being President will be easier? I doubt she will be able to pull off what Reagan did. Wasn’t he filmed during the '80 campaign working out with his shirt off? That is when people stopped listening to the stupid remarks of Carter about Reagan’s age. I wouldn’t want to see Hillary without a shirt. Gross.[/quote]
I think it will be Hillary, but I don’t think it will matter. I think any nominee that can make it through the social conservative primary beatdown won’t be able to win a national election. The greater demographic doesn’t want to hear a socially conservative agenda. If that has to be on the table then its gonna be another loss.
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That’s if she doesn’t die before then. She is getting really old.
I think it will be Hillary, but I don’t think it will matter. I think any nominee that can make it through the social conservative primary beatdown won’t be able to win a national election. The greater demographic doesn’t want to hear a socially conservative agenda. If that has to be on the table then its gonna be another loss.
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I think you’re putting all your eggs in the wrong basket.
By 2015 the gay marriage thing will be settled, and young people tend to be more pro-life than pro choice compared to women 30+. By this point obamacare will be full blown in effect and everyone will be wondering “why is my insurance so high”. Taxes will have gone up for everyone, again, and the country will be in about 20 tillion of debt. I’m nto ruling out war with Iran either.
Hey I could be wrong, but I doubt shit like gay marriage and abortion is going to be that much of a swing at that point.
But then again, the media won’t ever stop sucking the tit of the GodKing, so you could be right.
God lord. This is the laziest, least thought out, talking point riddled, discriminatory, assumptive garbage post, totally devoid of fact posted in a long time."
I sure did get a lot of good responses out of this, did I not ?
But that was the point of my diatribe. Get people going like a hand granade in the middle of congress ; )
Now, if we could take my suggestion about elections, You the candidate have EXACTLY 90 days before election day
to make your peace with the public and that is all…none of this two year away from election day BULSHIT.
that gives you two days per state to make your point. If you want to spend only a single day in Rhode Island,
fine. Spend three in New York. I dont care. I voted you in to WORK ! not to be on the campain trail for two
the four years you are in office…sory beans, got carried away ; )
To Mufasa and the others who believe Hillary will win it: if she runs, I lean toward agreeing with you. But two things to consider: A) her health may preclude her from even running, though I believe the pressure on the first viable female candidate for president will be enough to outweigh anything but coma; and B) the admittedly formidable Clinton machine is 0/1 since the 90’s. She was up against a remarkable candidate in '08, but a loss is a loss.
If she doesn’t run or somehow doesn’t win the nomination, I believe the Republicans all but have it in the bag already.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
To Mufasa and the others who believe Hillary will win it: if she runs, I lean toward agreeing with you. But two things to consider: A) her health may preclude her from even running, though I believe the pressure on the first viable female candidate for president will be enough to outweigh anything but coma; and B) the admittedly formidable Clinton machine is 0/1 since the 90’s. She was up against a remarkable candidate in '08, but a loss is a loss.
If she doesn’t run or somehow doesn’t win the nomination, I believe the Republicans all but have it in the bag already.[/quote]
You under-estimate how good of an Alinsky-ite Warren is. And that chick is so good at apeals to emotion I caught myself fallign for them as I knew it was happening.
She plays the wonky, ruffled, “be nice to me because I’m the unattractive, unasertive female” card very well.
She will say “millionares & Billionares” and “level playing field” and all the idiots will eat that shit up, even though she is a proud member of the eleit who has fought in the SCOTUS for the same people she says she fights against, all while lying about being a minority.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
To Mufasa and the others who believe Hillary will win it: if she runs, I lean toward agreeing with you. But two things to consider: A) her health may preclude her from even running, though I believe the pressure on the first viable female candidate for president will be enough to outweigh anything but coma; and B) the admittedly formidable Clinton machine is 0/1 since the 90’s. She was up against a remarkable candidate in '08, but a loss is a loss.
If she doesn’t run or somehow doesn’t win the nomination, I believe the Republicans all but have it in the bag already.[/quote]
You under-estimate how good of an Alinsky-ite Warren is. And that chick is so good at apeals to emotion I caught myself fallign for them as I knew it was happening.
She plays the wonky, ruffled, “be nice to me because I’m the unattractive, unasertive female” card very well.
She will say “millionares & Billionares” and “level playing field” and all the idiots will eat that shit up, even though she is a proud member of the eleit who has fought in the SCOTUS for the same people she says she fights against, all while lying about being a minority. [/quote]
Fair enough. I actually didn’t follow Warren closely at all. I’m speaking more in general historical terms–it’s hard for either party to remain at 1600 Penn for more than eight years, and it’s been very hard for the Democrats. Add to that the fact that Obama doesn’t seem to be heading for a terribly impressive second term, and it’ll be an uphill battle for anybody not sporting an R next to their name.
As for me, I hope Christie runs as an independent.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am sorry Republicans win the contest of being the party of stupid and my vote is , even though Herman is a first class dolt ,My vote is for Sarah .
I think the Republicans do not think their candidates need to be smart because their policies are so tried and true that all you have to do is paint by the numbers
I agree the Dems. have the same problem but to a lot lesser degree .[/quote]
Can you imagine a Cain/ Palin ticket? How fucking retarded would that be?
