Republicans are Demons

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:

So here it is. For the most part I am fiscally CONSERVATIVE and socially liberal TO A POINT…

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The big problem with that philosophy, Dirk, is fiscal CONSERVATISM cannot support social LIBERALISM. And vice versa. Ne’er the twain shall meet.

You have one of them thar conundrums goin’ on.[/quote]

I have to respectfully disagree with you there, Push. It depends on where you draw the line and what you consider a social issue vs a fiscal issue. I consider myself pretty socially liberal on a lot of issues (for example, I personally could care less if gays get married). But, where I am not liberal on, at all, is things like unemployment, section 8 housing, welfare, etc…but, personally, I consider those fiscal issues with social factors.

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Maximus, I would have NO PROBLEM at all shooting in the head those that tresspass over our border, then throwing their dead carcass back, to begin with ; )

I also agree with you that this state is Fucked. I take issue with public service unions that want to get their people paid AFTER they have stopped working. Great, you put your ass on the line but why are you getting 85% of your last yearly income now that you are no longer working ? I dont work I dont eat, it is that simple.

I would have to believe that you are not pro union and neither am I.

I really wish that Soldier could put a bullet through the head of an Illegal Alien / people say I am racist because I want to cap a trespasser. If a Norwegian jump the canadian border to get into the US illegally I would still want to cap his ass…

There are things though that do need to be protected. I do not know about yourself but I really do like breathing clean air, drinking out of a high mountain steam and not having my sanity destroyed by idiots
with no common sense not courtesy…apologies for this running a bit longer than intended.

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[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Maximus, I would have NO PROBLEM at all shooting in the head those that tresspass over our border, then throwing their dead carcass back, to begin with ; )[/quote]

Did you just admit that you have no qualms with murder of a human being deserving dignity?

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[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Maximus, I would have NO PROBLEM at all shooting in the head those that tresspass over our border, then throwing their dead carcass back, to begin with ; )

I also agree with you that this state is Fucked. I take issue with public service unions that want to get their people paid AFTER they have stopped working. Great, you put your ass on the line but why are you getting 85% of your last yearly income now that you are no longer working ? I dont work I dont eat, it is that simple.

I would have to believe that you are not pro union and neither am I.

I really wish that Soldier could put a bullet through the head of an Illegal Alien / people say I am racist because I want to cap a trespasser. If a Norwegian jump the canadian border to get into the US illegally I would still want to cap his ass…
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oh, there is a quick and dirty fix.

Just open the border, and legalize everyone.
They are no more illegal. no more tresspasser.
They are happy.
You are happy.
Problem solved.

Or not…
And if not, where is the problem ?
the country is overpopulated ?
the country has no use for young and demographically dynamic people ?
or, god forbid, the problem is indeed their ethnicity ?

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Kumui, to start. the problem is NOT with ethnicity. The problem is with those that would enter the country illegally. If you do not like what is happening in your country then do what we did in 1860 and start a massive civil war, or what is going on in Syria right now. My great grandfather came to this country LEGALLY and had to jump through all kinds of hoops. All I am asking for is for people to follow the rules/laws of the land.

Yes brother Chris, trespasser will be shot. Survivors shot again. I would love to bring the troops home from Afghanistan ( 7th most CORRUPT country) and have our military service people stationed on home turf close to families securing our borders. That is BOTH borders to be clear.

The number one priority of the government (federal, state, local) should be the SAFETY of its citizens.
If you do not feel safe on your home soil then there is something terribly wrong with than. To be clear,
I DO NOT WANT a police state by any means. I hope this further clears up some questions…

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[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Kumui, to start. the problem is NOT with ethnicity. The problem is with those that would enter the country illegally. If you do not like what is happening in your country then do what we did in 1860 and start a massive civil war, or what is going on in Syria right now. My great grandfather came to this country LEGALLY and had to jump through all kinds of hoops. All I am asking for is for people to follow the rules/laws of the land.

Yes brother Chris, trespasser will be shot. Survivors shot again. I would love to bring the troops home from Afghanistan ( 7th most CORRUPT country) and have our military service people stationed on home turf close to families securing our borders. That is BOTH borders to be clear.

The number one priority of the government (federal, state, local) should be the SAFETY of its citizens.
If you do not feel safe on your home soil then there is something terribly wrong with than. To be clear,
I DO NOT WANT a police state by any means. I hope this further clears up some questions…

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Not sure if serious. Or, if you’re doing a caricature. Either way, shameful.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Kumui, to start. the problem is NOT with ethnicity. The problem is with those that would enter the country illegally. If you do not like what is happening in your country then do what we did in 1860 and start a massive civil war, or what is going on in Syria right now. My great grandfather came to this country LEGALLY and had to jump through all kinds of hoops. All I am asking for is for people to follow the rules/laws of the land.

Yes brother Chris, trespasser will be shot. Survivors shot again. I would love to bring the troops home from Afghanistan ( 7th most CORRUPT country) and have our military service people stationed on home turf close to families securing our borders. That is BOTH borders to be clear.

The number one priority of the government (federal, state, local) should be the SAFETY of its citizens.
If you do not feel safe on your home soil then there is something terribly wrong with than. To be clear,
I DO NOT WANT a police state by any means. I hope this further clears up some questions…

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Not sure if serious. Or, if you’re doing a caricature. Either way, shameful.
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You must not live in an area that has an illegal immigrant problem.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Kumui, to start. the problem is NOT with ethnicity. The problem is with those that would enter the country illegally. If you do not like what is happening in your country then do what we did in 1860 and start a massive civil war, or what is going on in Syria right now. My great grandfather came to this country LEGALLY and had to jump through all kinds of hoops. All I am asking for is for people to follow the rules/laws of the land.

Yes brother Chris, trespasser will be shot. Survivors shot again. I would love to bring the troops home from Afghanistan ( 7th most CORRUPT country) and have our military service people stationed on home turf close to families securing our borders. That is BOTH borders to be clear.

The number one priority of the government (federal, state, local) should be the SAFETY of its citizens.
If you do not feel safe on your home soil then there is something terribly wrong with than. To be clear,
I DO NOT WANT a police state by any means. I hope this further clears up some questions…

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Not sure if serious. Or, if you’re doing a caricature. Either way, shameful.
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You must not live in an area that has an illegal immigrant problem.
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I’ve lived surrounded by illegal immigrants (didn’t do a survey, but it’s pretty obvious) in Atlanta and Florida communities. Largely Mexican. Not once did I think that simple crime justified a bullet in the head. That kind of talk is disgusting.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Kumui, to start. the problem is NOT with ethnicity. The problem is with those that would enter the country illegally. If you do not like what is happening in your country then do what we did in 1860 and start a massive civil war, or what is going on in Syria right now. My great grandfather came to this country LEGALLY and had to jump through all kinds of hoops. All I am asking for is for people to follow the rules/laws of the land.

Yes brother Chris, trespasser will be shot. Survivors shot again. I would love to bring the troops home from Afghanistan ( 7th most CORRUPT country) and have our military service people stationed on home turf close to families securing our borders. That is BOTH borders to be clear.

The number one priority of the government (federal, state, local) should be the SAFETY of its citizens.
If you do not feel safe on your home soil then there is something terribly wrong with than. To be clear,
I DO NOT WANT a police state by any means. I hope this further clears up some questions…

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Not sure if serious. Or, if you’re doing a caricature. Either way, shameful.
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You must not live in an area that has an illegal immigrant problem.
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I’ve lived surrounded by illegal immigrants (didn’t do a survey, but it’s pretty obvious) in Atlanta and Florida communities. Largely Mexican. Not once did I think that simple crime justified a bullet in the head. That kind of talk is disgusting.
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I think he is referring to a trespasser on his personal property…unless I misunderstood.

And for the record, there is a reason that ranchers that live on the boarder are arming themselves with automatic rifles and mounting armed patrols.

It’s a war zone.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

I think he is referring to a trespasser on his personal property…unless I misunderstood.[/quote]

Taking his post as it is, I believe you’ve misunderstood. Even so, killing a person for simple trespass?

[quote]And for the record, there is a reason that ranchers that live on the boarder are arming themselves with automatic rifles and mounting armed patrols.
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As they should. And they should be prepared to APPROPRIATELY use lethal force in defense of life and limb. Not simply because someone stepped foot on their property.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

I think he is referring to a trespasser on his personal property…unless I misunderstood.[/quote]

Taking his post as it is, I believe you’ve misunderstood. Even so, killing a person for simple trespass?

[quote]And for the record, there is a reason that ranchers that live on the boarder are arming themselves with automatic rifles and mounting armed patrols.
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As they should. And they should be prepared to APPROPRIATELY use lethal force in defense of life and limb. Not simply because someone stepped foot on their property.
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Perhaps I did…I was speaking more towards the second point.

It’s a slippery slope you walk with somebody “only stepping” on your property…where are lines drawn?

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Ok.
So, if an evil (but lawfully elected) liberal government completely opens the border, there would be millions of mexicans entering the country, but you would be perfectly ok with that, since they would do it legally.

right ?

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[quote]kamui wrote:

Ok.
So, if an evil (but lawfully elected) liberal government completely opens the border, there would be millions of mexicans entering the country, but you would be perfectly ok with that, since they would do it legally.

right ?

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You don’t think that La Raza has petitioned Obama for this very thing?

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kamui, I would not be none to happy about it but being that it was done legally I would have to abide by the laws that are standing.

“I will use whatever force is necessary until the threat no longer exists” for the protection of life, limb, property and country, that is correct. There is not a court in the land that has not upheld that phrasiology

I used to live SIX miles north of the US/ mexican border in San Diego, so I do believe I know from where I am speaking.

Now I live in a small mountain community and we STILL have the same shit problem with illegal immigration.

to Utah’s point. It is getting to be a war zone out there…

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[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Maximus, I would have NO PROBLEM at all shooting in the head those that tresspass over our border, then throwing their dead carcass back, to begin with ; )

I also agree with you that this state is Fucked. I take issue with public service unions that want to get their people paid AFTER they have stopped working. Great, you put your ass on the line but why are you getting 85% of your last yearly income now that you are no longer working ? I dont work I dont eat, it is that simple.

I would have to believe that you are not pro union and neither am I.

I really wish that Soldier could put a bullet through the head of an Illegal Alien / people say I am racist because I want to cap a trespasser. If a Norwegian jump the canadian border to get into the US illegally I would still want to cap his ass…

There are things though that do need to be protected. I do not know about yourself but I really do like breathing clean air, drinking out of a high mountain steam and not having my sanity destroyed by idiots
with no common sense not courtesy…apologies for this running a bit longer than intended.[/quote]

Dude, I know you’re pissed about illegal immigration, Lords knows I hate it too, but I am not about to shoot people over it. If you enforce the laws, and stop incentives, they will leave and won’t come back.

Yes the Unions own this whole state, and as constituents, we are under attack by a Democratic Mafia voted in by an influx of poor people.

I also agree that we need to keep our place clean, but not at the expense of driving our business. When CARB (California Air Resources Board) tried to impose a fee on people driving with low tire pressure, that’s when you know shit is insane.

What I am getting at is, I hope that the others here (not in Cali) see what the Liberal machine does when it’s opened up full throttle. In a 6 month time period, we spent $2.6 Billion over budget, AND also took in $2.6 less in revenue. You don’t need to be a wizard to see how that will fuck shit up.

For people who have hard-ons for Democratic policies, take a look at California, where Dems have a supermajority. We now have a $95 Billion budget, are $10 Billion in the red, worst schools, highest taxes, worst business environment, highest paid teachers, most illegal aliens, and 1/3 of the country’s welfare.

Want to take a stab at how that ^^^ will end up ?

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

You must not live in an area that has an illegal immigrant problem.
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So, because I live in Phoenix and work around Tucson…I should want to murder people?

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:
I think he is referring to a trespasser on his personal property…unless I misunderstood.
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No, he meant his personal property…as in U.S. soil. Even if someone does trespass on your property, unless they pose an immediate threat against you…I don’t see the point of murdering someone.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
I think he is referring to a trespasser on his personal property…unless I misunderstood.
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No, he meant his personal property…as in U.S. soil. Even if someone does trespass on your property, unless they pose an immediate threat against you…I don’t see the point of murdering someone.[/quote]

Again I thought he was referring to his personal property (home) and yes if somebody is knocking over/cutting/climbing over my fence then you are damn correct that a gun will be drawn.

Since you are in AZ Chris, and are deeply involved with the Latino community there (if I recall correctly) perhaps you should take a trip to the boarder and see the massive amounts of litter/human refuse/vandalism that occurs when folks are not allowed to protect their property…state parks that are closed because of the violent clashes with boarder crosser’s, Boarder Patrol officers shot and killed.

I know several families that have ranched those lands for generations (went to college with some of the children) and when they say it is a war zone and provide pictures and such…I am inclined to believe them.