Republican and African Americans

I find a hard time imagining a world where lower crime, increased employment, and stronger education are BAD for AAs. If you want to argue they aren’t benefitted as much as non AAs that’s fine. My response would be “who cares.”

What did Lenin say about educating the young?

Just look at how SJWs have managed to have their agendas legitimized via legislation and how this will affect culture.

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Yes, that’s why schools and universities are the first battlegrounds of every ideological war.

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Well looks like Kanyes lil red hat shut his brain off…jeez uhhh #maga?

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Republicans support charter schools like these that have way more success with way less spent per student:

All of those are free for the student to attend, but Democrats and teacher unions fight the competition every chance they get.

Edit: I taught at Idea Academy for four years. Every student (other than the teacher’s kids) where children of migrant farm workers who lived in Colonias. Most were here illegally. Most of their parents had never finished high school. Yet every student I taught during those four years (2000-20004) graduated from college. Every single one. It can be done. A school can set the culture.

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Just one poll. Correlation =/= causation. But just imagine if Kanye really did have this power to double Trump’s approval within a demographic in one week by supporting him with a few tweets… Kanye 2024? Who’s the VP? I vote Little Wayne.

OOOOKAY!

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Somebody dropped a dookie dragon on the athletic field, and that’s not cool, Mkayyy?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/03/new-jersey-superintendent-defecated-on-high-school-football-field-on-daily-basis-cops-say.amp.html

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That’s Lil Jon not Lil Wayne.

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Damn it! I knew I should have double checked.

Did the school set the culture or did the families? You can’t compare immigrant FAMILIES who come here to the inner cities. You are comparing people who are escaping poverty and lack of opportunities in order for their children to have a better life than they, to people who don’t have anything close to the same values and work ethic.

I was going to respond something similar. They can not be compared at all.

To be clear, who exactly are you saying don’t have the same values and work ethic?

The two groups I mentioned, specifically, inner city American blacks (not all but a significant number, otherwise this conversation doesn’t happen) and immigrants. I witness first-hand the children of Yemeni refugees and how they not only take school seriously but they are respectful, honest, helpful and ambitious.

My wife teaches in the inner city and all of her students are black and she and her co-workers are perplexed by how lazy so many of the kids are. For the record, my wife is Jamaican and she came here young, her family came here with pretty much nothing and her mother ended up getting a college degree while working full time and then became a certified accountant which allowed her to move up at her place of employment. She also bought a house. Her father stayed behind because he had a decent job and could send them money to help out. He came up once he had a job lined up.

  1. The parents of the children I worked with did not value education. They wanted their kids in the fields picking onions with them when they turned 13 most of the time. They particularly did not value education for their daughters, who they would keep home to take care of younger children. I was on a home visit almost nightly trying to convince them to keep their children in school.

  2. Saying inner city American blacks don’t have the same work ethic is borderline (if not overtly) racist, is it not? In fact you contrast them to refugees who you describe as “respectful, honest, helpful, and ambitious.” If you start out assuming they have no work ethic and aren’t honest or ambitious, I can see why inner city schools fail so often.

Yeah, play the race card. You might want to actually read what I wrote. I said my wife, who is an inner city teacher and…wait for it…is BLACK noted these things.

Also, you obviously don’t know what racism means so should stick to words you do know. I did not mention anything about genetics. Unless you think culture and values are genetic traits. I also pointed out I was speaking about a certain segment of the black population.

You bring up starting out from assuming. No, I lived in the ghetto. I worked in ghettoes and still do at times. I base whatever opinions I have on personal experience. If the issues I mentioned were not prevalent we don’t have this conversation. If a significant number of Chicago boys were not homicidal sociopaths, then you don’t have all of the murder and attempted murder. It isn’t a few bad apples.

And this is the problem. You can’t state facts without someone playing the race card.

You only proved my point anyway. You mentioned how the immigrant kids are brought up in a family that values work and, we can infer, helping each other out; sticking together. You had good clay to work with. You had something to build on.

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I think this is not a matter of racism (where one is from), but a critique of the inner city black culture. There does seem to be a cultural difference between black people who are newly here, and ones that have family history tracing back to slavery.

Basically, it is the culture, which is in part due to racial injustices in America, but not the actual race of the people that is causing work ethic issues.

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And one complaint from African-Americans is that programs and policies that are in place to help them, and which they fought for during the civil Rights era, are helping blacks in general, such as recent African and West Indian immigrants to their detriment.

Its only cool to talk romantically about the home land when you’re all marleyed up.

Actually helping real natives that left due to political oppression or tribal massacre is a no-no.:laughing:

Well, since he is contrasting two cultures (immigrant vs. native) of the same race, I don’t think so.

I can tell you the Zuni in New Mexico, as a group, like to smoke pot and take peyote and drink malt liquor . . . and generally live in abject squalor – if they live on the reservation.

That’s just a fact. I know a handful of Zuni who don’t fit that bill, and it’s because they packed their bags and left. Generally speaking the successful ones are Lutheran or Methodist. The crappy ones are Catholic or pagan.

Being so politically correct as to not talk about the elephant in the room keeps people in squalor.

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