[quote]BIGERIC wrote:
225 x 10 or 11 will give you a 300 max. I went to a bench press calculator at and it calculates out to 405 ( i know there not all that acurate but you get the idea) so I highly doubt this guy is even honest. [/quote]
thats pretty accurate, i know i could barely get 290 for 1 rep but i only weighed 160 and i could get 225 for 8 good and struggle the last 2 usually a spot, i had more endurance anyway, i was never that strong from doing all the push ups
ahh, just found your weight 220, i guess its an ok lift, i’m personally not impressed if you can only bench press your weight 17 times, but thats impressive compared to the average joe who cant do 40 push ups without giving himself a migraine.
if you were 180 or something 17 times at 17 years old woould be impressive, not at 220
be wary of those 1rm calculators. Last night I bench pressed just under 340lbs for a single, but a couple of weeks back could only manage 10 reps at 225… Admittedly I didn’t go to failure, but even so I reckon I would struggle to do any more than 12 or so.
Can’t understand all the hostility and disbelief there is on this board though when people post half-way respectable numbers.
Not bad for junior in high school, I had one of the fancy 300 club t-shirts when I was a sophmore. So don’t let thier flaming get to you. It seems like a joke to them , but I know when your at the gym in school your ego is on the line and a good bench demands respect. Congrats man, most people on this forum can’t bench thier own body weight so take everything they say with a grain of salt. Besides if you benched that as a junior that guarantees you wont sit at the SPED table during lunch.
Bullpup
Question?..does anyone know if a fly adds to your bench press
about 10 years ago. i was stuck in a benching rut where i kept getting stronger on my bench press but i wasn’t building any chest at all, only my front delts were seeming to benefit.
i was so pissed off, i said to hell with bench presses and started doing decline dumbbell flyes in a hugh arc taking the weight to the floor…extreme stretch
i built up the pecs nicely and figured i would have lost all kind of strength by not benching,…so i tested out the bench after a couple months of not benching…and did my 1Rep max weight 3 times…and i was puzzled
anybody know how that happened?
i have since been doing nothing but push ups and dips, im only after size now, could care less for a hugh bench, i could never get a good one so i just settled for hugh pecs insted cause my bench sucks.
[quote]Boyder326 wrote:
Thats pretty damn good for being a junior in HS. You must either have some pretty good genes, really short arms, or just train like a mother. even ten times is considered to be good. Colleges have their prospects do 185, with that you could probably do it 25 times, i think Brian Urlacher did it around 25 times as well.[/quote]
you must have really good genes or really short arms lol i thought short arms would be gd genes for benching.
hey man im not looking for a slap on the back i was just looking for a decent reply too see where i stacked up and thanks to everyone who helped me out. and what i have learned is that it does come down to hard-work and dedication.
I don’t really have a hard time believing you. I was about 225 lbs when I was a senior and could rep 225 for 12-14 reps, 340 1RM. My friend on the other hand was a freak…he was a 190 running back that could bench 440 lbs 1RM as a senior, also ran a 10.4 second 100m, 4.0 student, validictorian…Mr. All-America. He was always strong 340 lbs 1RM as a freshman at about 170 lbs body weight.
Unfortunately for the rest of us these guys are out there making us look bad. So quit trying to knock this kid down to make you feel better about yourself and get in the gym and do something about it.
I mean a standing cable chest press. Core stability meaning, your body’s ability to stand upright while pushing and maintaining control.
Much like if another football player is coming at you and you have to push them off of you, hence the direction relation to the above exercise.
Where as a bench press only measures upper body strength without the need to stabilize and maintain control.
Not saying benching is bad, don’t get me wrong, but I’d rather have someone outperform everyone with a standing cable chest press than a bench press.
Also, and yes stability ball presses can have their place in any fitness program, and to say otherwise is narrow minded.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I mean a standing cable chest press. Core stability meaning, your body’s ability to stand upright while pushing and maintaining control.
Much like if another football player is coming at you and you have to push them off of you, hence the direction relation to the above exercise.
Where as a bench press only measures upper body strength without the need to stabilize and maintain control.
Not saying benching is bad, don’t get me wrong, but I’d rather have someone outperform everyone with a standing cable chest press than a bench press.
Also, and yes stability ball presses can have their place in any fitness program, and to say otherwise is narrow minded.[/quote]
Much like if another football player is coming at you and you happen to have cables attachments in your hands. There is no such thing as sport specific training; there is only playing sports.
Seriously dude, if you think the cable chest press is a better measure of strength than a bench press, or that that benching is only an upper body movement, then you need to learn how to bench.
17 times for a 225 squat? That’s regular.
Where does it say bench in the original post?
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
17 times for a 225 squat? That’s regular.
Where does it say bench in the original post?[/quote]
I bet against that as well. But I’m just a hater:(
Now I have to get to the gym and do something about it.
Ok, even most lineman that are the 300 pounders may be only able to benchpress 315. Most D-1 teams have only a few 400 pound benchers (10 or so). At seventeen, to be able to do 225 17 is phenomenal.
And another thing, 295 clean for a senior in high school is top notch. I went to a Big school camp where they had overseen lifts, and i was one of only five guys rep cleaning at 225 and 245, most of which did not have form.
However, benchpress does not translate nearly as well onto the football field as people think.
hey man i am a champion powerlifter, name is josh bryant if you need to verify. i train athletes and think that is damn good, keep it up!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
Sorry, but I’m not sure I buy your stats or your lifts.
I know people exist who do these things, but
any of them that do would most certainly know how they ‘stack up.’ I mean really, how many guys on your team can do it 10 times? How many in your school-conference? So you would already know that that is pretty heady stuff.
Plus, from your other post, I noticed that you do a 'weak’240 clean. That again would be top notch shit for any junior in high school.
Sorry–smells bad.
But, I was going to ask how my 26" biceps compare to other 8th grade students!
I agree that someone capable of that should know. I also know that high school students thrive off of the ego boost. He might be able to do it yet thought his question would truly come across as “innocent”.[/quote]
Serious question guys; I’m a 41 year old powerlifter with a 10" penis big around as a coke can…I was wondering how I stack up against other guys. Anyone have any idea? I know 10" aint all that long, but I have a feeling my coke can girth could be in the running for some type of recognition…
[quote]MachineAZ wrote:
A 240 clean is top notch as a junior??? Um, no. That’s not true. I full cleaned 295 at the start of my senior year at 175 lbs. and I don’t think that was top notch.
A 225 bench for 17 reps would probably be at the high end, if not the best in the school. Of course, if you weigh 275 and play on the line, this is expected.
As a side note, I saw a high school kid the other day, probably a junior or senior, squat 315 for 5 deep reps. Could not have weighed more than 150 lbs. soaking wet.
Now that is impressive.[/quote]
I’m always tickled by this false modesty and superhuman lifts that exist on the internet; not calling bullshit here, but bro, I can squat in the 7’s and deadlift mid 6 and I cannot clean 295…so please stop saying that it’s not “top notch”…u’re fucking killing me here. granted, I don’t train PC, but let’s stop the bullshit modesty.
[quote]grey wrote:
cap’nsalty wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
A better question is does it matter? A big bench doesn’t correlate to the field. Your standing chest press would be a better measure, since in football we play standing up not lying down, thus must use our “core” stability to generate the force.
zips up flame suit
I fail to see how a machine is a better indicator of strength than a barbell. (I assume that’s what you mean by standing chest press) I also don’t see how this tests “core” stability. A squat tests core stability. A push press tests core stability.
Did you also know doing shoulder presses off of a stability ball tests your “core” stability?
i think he meant standing barbell military press.
Oh and I’d like to tell a litle story.
When I was a skinny kid in high school in Toronto there were 3 guys on the football team who could bench 300. They wore these stupid sweatshirts with a bigass “300 Club” on the front of them.
This confirms to me 2 things…that it’s possible for a high school kid to bench 225 for 17 reps and also that he sounds like one of the guys from my old highschool.
He should buy a shirt with 225 X 17 stenciled on it and walk around the halls…Hahahaha.
Hmmm…Come to think of it…I should buy myself a shirt like that also…
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Fucking hilarious - they had those shirts and my high school; of course, i didn’t have one - i was a skinny ass basketball player…
We used to get T-shirts too. The coach had one specially made for me…400lb Bench Club. I didn’t wear it out because I was much more shy in H.S.
I do, however, laugh at anyone who would get pissed at someone wearing a shirt like that…jealous much? hhhaha
Anyway…225 x 17? Not bad. We only did the rep test once, when I was a junior, and had 4 guys break 15. One guy was about 195 and did 17. I dont remember what I did, but it was somewhere between 17 and 20.
[quote]MachineAZ wrote:
A 240 clean is top notch as a junior??? Um, no. That’s not true. I full cleaned 295 at the start of my senior year at 175 lbs. and I don’t think that was top notch.
A 225 bench for 17 reps would probably be at the high end, if not the best in the school. Of course, if you weigh 275 and play on the line, this is expected.
As a side note, I saw a high school kid the other day, probably a junior or senior, squat 315 for 5 deep reps. Could not have weighed more than 150 lbs. soaking wet.
Now that is impressive.[/quote]
You don’t think a 295 clean is Top notch for a Highschool kid?
Here are the results from 2005 US National School age championships.
http://dev.msbn.tv/mmsysFrontEnd/uploadedFiles/05saresults.pdf
As you can see a 295 lb (134 kg, 1 kg=2.2lb) Clean is pretty damn good.
16-17 year olds:
77kg (170lb) 1 kid C&J over 135 kg (297lb)
85kg (187lb) 2 kids C&J over 135 kg (297lb)
94kg (207lb) 1 kid C&J over 135 kg (297lb)
105kg (231lb) 2 kids C&J over 135 kg (297lb)
105+kg (231+lb) 1 kid C&J over 135 kg (297lb)
I seriously think numbers get thrown around way too easy on Internet forums.
look at the results of all these National level Junior results.
http://www.msbn.tv/usavision/displayPage.aspx?id=396
Any Highschool kid who can Clean (Power or full) in the 300 range is “Top Notch”. This is not my “Opinion” rather it is an “Observation” using the results posted on USA weightlifting website.
I was only able to pump it 2-4 times at 17 yrs and 140 lbs.
We had only 3 guys over 300. 265 was average max on the football team. We also gave up an average of 60lbs a man against all the other teams. Had a All Metro Offensive guard at 145 lbs.