[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I like the idea of this thread, hope this one gets some responses.
Ok, being that you believe in God, or a God (or may even Gods).
Why do you not believe in any other God(s)? (unless you do believe in other God(s) )
What I’m getting at is why not Hinduism? Jainism? Sikhism? Any of the other Abrahamic religions? (eg if you’re Christian, why not Judaism as it’s the same God that they worship)
The common one in this question, why not Zeus? Jupiter?
Essentially why is yours right, and the others wrong? Is it that every religious person is worshiping the same God and just calling it by a different name?
If this is the case, then why not follow multiple religions? Why only follow one? (eg if they’re all the same, then the manner of worship shouldn’t matter, should it?)
Basically, what makes yours the right one? or does it not matter?
Sorry for the length, I just wanted to be thorough/specific.[/quote]
My basis is on Christ. If he rose, then everything said about Him and his own words were true. If he didn’t rise, then it was false and the religion falls apart. The big separation for me is that it’s the only religion where God did the work. Every other one is the act or responsibility put on the people to make themselves worthy before God. Christ put that on its head, dying for us so that we could have God. There was no “so many good works” or “so many mantras” required.
As far as Judaism, I just believe that the prophecies and pointing of the Jewish Fathers points to Christ, that he’s the messiah spoken about in plenty of different spots. The difference is they don’t believe he was the Messiah, and are still waiting
I was very devout in the past, then I had questions that no one could really answer decently. All of the answers boiled down to “you just have to have faith”. I realized that the moment I had the questions, I already had lost the faith.
Have you ever had a real crisis in you faith, were you lost it and then regained it?
[quote]doogie wrote:
I was very devout in the past, then I had questions that no one could really answer decently. All of the answers boiled down to “you just have to have faith”. I realized that the moment I had the questions, I already had lost the faith.
Have you ever had a real crisis in you faith, were you lost it and then regained it?[/quote]
(sorry for the faith spam, but i’m avoiding some work right now and figure I might as well answer questions as they come up)
Yup. I had a faith crisis that was deep in college. It was the time where all I had been raised on was questioned and put aside. There was no foundation for me to grasp hold of, it all just seemed…routine. I regained it through a couple different phases. I researched heavily into the evidence behind it, looking up all I could on proofs and disproofs of the faith (as well as exploring some other religions). That research brought the assurance that there was something to it, and that’s when I decided it was either all or nothing. I had to either dedicate to it in order to find out of it was real, or just pass it aside and move on with my life. It was when I truly dedicated and searched that God really started opening things up.
[quote]doogie wrote:
I was very devout in the past, then I had questions that no one could really answer decently. All of the answers boiled down to “you just have to have faith”. I realized that the moment I had the questions, I already had lost the faith.
Have you ever had a real crisis in you faith, were you lost it and then regained it?[/quote]
Dear doogie,
I had little to no faith, and then gained it. I didn’t grow up in a religious household. Truth be told I didn’t grow up in much of a household at all.
How does a woman (Mary) who was already married (Luke 1:27, Mathew 1:18) NOT have sex with her husband? How can anyone possibly believe that she was a virgin? She was living in his house… God commanded Joseph to fuck Mary (Mathew 1:20-24). So what’s more likely? The holy spirit magically impregnated her? Or one of them had a schizophrenic episode, a little hanky panky before the wedding and felt bad about it or <<>> and told everyone that she was a virgin (even though she was married) and had sex with Joseph and conceived Jesus that way.
I mean COME ON, people! I’m not taking anything away from Jesus. He taught some people some good shit back in the day, but his mother was a VIRGIN? I’m calling bullshit. If you believe that, you might as well believe in Santa Clause. I mean it was written in a book that can be used to justify just about ANYTHING and yet everyone thinks nothing of this very unlikely claim. It’s PREPOSTEROUS!
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
How does a woman (Mary) who was already married (Luke 1:27, Mathew 1:18) NOT have sex with her husband? How can anyone possibly believe that she was a virgin? She was living in his house… God commanded Joseph to fuck Mary (Mathew 1:20-24). So what’s more likely? The holy spirit magically impregnated her? Or one of them had a schizophrenic episode, a little hanky panky before the wedding and felt bad about it or <<>> and told everyone that she was a virgin (even though she was married) and had sex with Joseph and conceived Jesus that way.
I mean COME ON, people! I’m not taking anything away from Jesus. He taught some people some good shit back in the day, but his mother was a VIRGIN? I’m calling bullshit. If you believe that, you might as well believe in Santa Clause. I mean it was written in a book that can be used to justify just about ANYTHING and yet everyone thinks nothing of this very unlikely claim. It’s PREPOSTEROUS!
That’s MY biggest doubt, Beans. [/quote]
Well it claims there is a God, so I imagine most people see the virgin birth as small potatoes if they can’t get past the God part.
[quote]doogie wrote:
I was very devout in the past, then I had questions that no one could really answer decently. All of the answers boiled down to “you just have to have faith”. I realized that the moment I had the questions, I already had lost the faith.
Have you ever had a real crisis in you faith, were you lost it and then regained it?[/quote]
(sorry for the faith spam, but i’m avoiding some work right now and figure I might as well answer questions as they come up)
Yup. I had a faith crisis that was deep in college. It was the time where all I had been raised on was questioned and put aside. There was no foundation for me to grasp hold of, it all just seemed…routine. I regained it through a couple different phases. I researched heavily into the evidence behind it, looking up all I could on proofs and disproofs of the faith (as well as exploring some other religions). That research brought the assurance that there was something to it, and that’s when I decided it was either all or nothing. I had to either dedicate to it in order to find out of it was real, or just pass it aside and move on with my life. It was when I truly dedicated and searched that God really started opening things up.[/quote]
I took the same path as you, and came to completely the opposite conclusions. The more I read, the more I researched, the more I questioned, the less sense Christianity made.
Continuing to reject what God has revealed to you (blaspheming the Holy Spirit).
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[quote]Zen Taco wrote:
The bible says the unforgivable sin is to blaspheme the holy spirit. This has been describe as bringing about accusations against the holy spirit that it’s the work of the devil, denying it/the gift of salvation repeatedly, etc.
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[quote]Sloth wrote:
Mark 3:29: But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.
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So does that mean you have to forgive everything else?
Continuing to reject what God has revealed to you (blaspheming the Holy Spirit).
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[quote]Zen Taco wrote:
The bible says the unforgivable sin is to blaspheme the holy spirit. This has been describe as bringing about accusations against the holy spirit that it’s the work of the devil, denying it/the gift of salvation repeatedly, etc.
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[quote]Sloth wrote:
Mark 3:29: But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.
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So does that mean you have to forgive everything else?[/quote]
I think it’s safe to say that I’ve “blasphemed the holy spirit”, correct? So why the fuck should I bother seeking your god? I’m pretty much fucked, according to your little book.
(not directed at you, Beans just the other quotes)