Also, the notion that people inclined to throw down are generally unskilled or weak is false. Some of these aggressive people are antagonistic because they know they’re tougher, bigger, and better with their hands than the next guy.
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Sure, with multiple attackers or weapons involved skill goes (almost) out the window. A competent Muay Thai fighter stands a shot against an attacker with a knife. They have shins like fucking baseball bats, not impossible for them to get in a good kick and run away. Or on the off chance perhaps break a rib.
I’d still argue very good grappler or fighter might be a me to win vs a dude with a box cutter.
Multiple attackers and you are fucked. No mortal man can take out twelve guys.
There are those who are big and strong and thus pick fights with weaker guys. But a meathead vs a scrawny boxer, a good grappler etc and i’d still argue
… No contest
You never know who the “dark horse” is, sometimes it’s those you’d least expect who actually know how to fight. Picking fights is in my opinion moronic. Risks the safety of everyone involved, not withstanding the potential legal consequence.
In that case it’s because they are fundamentally cowards who pick their targets well, until the day they don’t.
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I went to school with a guy like this… Totally amoral piece of shit. I’d always tell people “just wait til he picks a fight with the wrong guy”. With his penchant to pick random fights his day is coming.
Then we are talking about a criminal act and not simply throwing down.
Throwing down is generally considered a criminal act, even in the scenario I’ve described with guy A and guy B. Illigal for guy A to make the initial attempt at assault.
Fighting generally falls under the realms of “assault”.
The laws vary in the US with regard to mutual combat.
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I don’t know that I’d use “tougher” to describe someone that picks his targets based on the fact that they’re less capable.
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I’d say someone with a violent background and who likes being violent has an advantage over some peaceful square with no such experience or inclination. Picking weaker targets doesn’t make a guy tough.
FYI/PS: going forward, have no intention of arguing when I respond to you even if we have different views or you correct me on something considering you’re one of the posters I particularly like. I’m just putting that out there.
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Fully agreed. Though I’d still think if you have a scenario where there are no weapons, it’s 1v1 and you’ve got a psychopathic street brawler vs a cage fighter who has competed many times (without a violent past on the streets)… The MMA guy is probably going to win, he trains to get punched in the face all day. He’s probably more athletic, perhaps has greater relative strength as weight training is a staple for many fighters. Probably faster, more agile, can hit harder, knows how to grapple etc.
These scenarios aren’t important though. What is important is distancing yourself from/staying away from the kind of psychopaths that walk around beating up random people. I say this because these kids/adults do exist, we both know this. It’s best to stay a skip, hop and another hundred miles away from them.
Thank you for the compliment. The feeling is mutual, I find you tend to debate with respect, you don’t resort to ad hominem attacks… I think you’re a legitimately nice guy, that’s hard to come by on the interwebs nowdays.
So… Many… Keyboard… Warriors… #trollsunderabridge
There was a really good South Park ark on trolling. It was in extremely bad taste as always… But damn… It was funny! Sometimes I almost feel bad for laughing at stuff like that. It’s so abhorrent, immoral and shocking. Against all moral standards… Aside from the satire I’ve always thought that’s what made shows like South Park/family guy funny. How dysfunctional the family unit was in family guy/The Simpsons, American Dad and South Park coupled with how twisted the concepts in the shows could be.
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I think there are a couple of things being confused here. It’s one thing to be someone who likes to fight and is easily provoked into asking someone to step outside after some perceived insult. It’s another thing to be a violent criminal. The former can be confident because he is bigger, and assumes tougher, than the target of his hostility. It might not mean anything if the weak target is not so weak after all.
The criminal is a different thing and it goes both ways. You can be big and bad and challenge some keyboard warrior to a fight and that warrior might be weak, small and unable to fight. But then that keyboard warrior shows up with a gun and shoots the other guy dead. The point being, you can be as tough as you want, whether you are some neighborhood tough guy, a criminal, or someone who has trained for fighting, and it means nothing if the other guy is willing to go further than you expected. And those who are quick to turn to violence tend to not have long happy lives. They either end up in prison or come across some soft target like this guy:
I just think it’s funny when people talk about how keyboard warriors, or whoever, wouldn’t say anything in person back when, or even today, because there are people who would have no problem responding to words with violence as if those people, or that behavior, are something to be admired.
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That’s all I was saying.
Edit: I like you as well, as a poster. And I don’t really care to argue with anyone online.
He needs to find a new gym, if this true.
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You are being deliberately obtuse. You know what I’m stating
I brought my brother one of these shirts as a joke when we were younger because he went vegetarian… He actually thought it meant “vegetarian” at the time and was very greatful. We were probably around thirteen or fourteen at the time.
Very true.
Agreed. I’d say they’re “untrained” but have gotten into lots of brawls.
He doesn’t if he’s not expecting an attack with a knife. This isn’t the way real street violence normally goes down. If you see the bloody knife, just run without the kick lol.
The caveat would be this person has to be “very good”, which wouldn’t be your average guy with training. Even then, why would someone pick a fight like this since he’s most likely gonna get cut up anyway? Winning doesn’t mean not getting injured in the process.
And this is still assuming it’s not a sudden attack which he’s not prepared for.
He’s probably joking. If you’re getting punched in the face way too much during training, you probably have shitty instructors lol.
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More that you shouldn’t be training to get punched in the face. You should train to avoid getting punched in the face.
Nobody literally trains to get punched in the face. That’s obviously not what he meant.
Unless you’re learning something stupid like Chinese Kungfu.
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Read a bit of the thread, skimmed a lot. Here’s something
If you have enough people praying 5x per day on a campus it becomes to your benefit to give them a quite place to the side to do this nearby, rather than all over the damn place
What you’re saying would be chasing after “equality” in a ridiculous way
And, is it really a mosque? Or a “quiet place”, “meditation area”, etc. that just happens to be crowded with Muslims praying all the time?
Assalamu’alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu
I don’t do or support any of these. How or why would doing so be clear kufr?
I thought I’d seen you criticize Abdul Wahhab for making takfir on Muslims. It seems strange to me that you would then be so quick to do the same.
I know you’re on timeout so no rush to reply. Relax.
Related to what I was talking about previously, I forgot to mention I once read in an article some time ago that the US population about doubled from 1930 to 1996 but the prison population went up by a factor of ten!
I don’t believe that is solely because of the so-called war on drugs or increased sentencing for non-violent crimes considering criminals were not coddled less in the past.
I am certain it is caused by:
- Destruction of social institutions and norms that kept pathological behavior in check.
- Increased alienation.
- Radical individualism.
- A culture of narcissism, and while we’re on the subject, a culture of immorality.
Incarceration is even a badge of honor amongst some people.
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