It’s an absurd solution to a problem. Is divorce ideal for children? Of course not. But many children of divorce go on to be just fine. Jailing the parents and taking the kids away from them completely? Fucking killing someone for cheating? Sweet Jesus indeed.
We will definitely solve the problem of divorce though. With these penalties no one would marry or attempt a monogamous relationship.
Morally depraved elites that consist of cut-throat men who are wealthy, powerful, superficially charming, superficially charismatic, and dangerous that are physically stronger, taller, more intelligent, and more dangerous than women on average due to hardwired biology have caused this cycle of corruption where women sell their souls by becoming degraded sex objects around bad boys who are dangerous and morally depraved. It has nothing to do with female empowerment nor females having self-respect and moral integrity. Because the females are degraded sex objects with lesser power culturally and politically on average anyway. Which is why the females end up having stockholm syndrome and being in relationships with sadistic cun+s who abuse them. Which is why women’s shelters exist. Because cultural misogyny, systemic sexism, and abusive people in powerful positions have caused those women’s shelters to exist. The male-dominated entertainment industry promotes females being degraded sex objects that get attracted to bad boys who are dangerous and morally depraved. Which the morally depraved elites use the male-dominated entertainment industry to corrupt the youth for profit. Those immature women were created to help morally depraved elites gain profits from immature and morally depraved women who are treated like degraded sex objects. It’s a nasty business that has enabled sexual predators, rapists, sex traffickers, etc. But the morally depraved elites care about money and power rather than training women to be have moral integrity, self-respect, empowerment, and a strong sense of self-control and conscience because easily corrupt and impulsive consumers give the elites more money than consumers who are more self-controlled through common sense and have a strong conscience. Which is why I have a harder time wanting to watch films, television shows, and music videos because a lot of them are nothing but dumbed down propaganda controlled by mostly cut-throat men from their male-dominated industries who corrupt the youth for profit. Drug addiction, gambling addiction, sex addiction, alcoholism, gluttony, obesity, crime, depression, anxiety, suicides, moral depravity, greed, and lack of family values have increased in the younger generations in the countries, which is why I’m weary about the future.
In regards to religious discussion, I’m agnostic. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and Hinduism have scriptures that promote arguably abusive sexism. Which is why I dislike them. Abrahamic religions have scriptures promoting slavery, which is why I dislike them. Jesus is not his original name nor is he white like a stereotypical European. Yeshua is his original name and he would look like a stereotypical middle easterner with darker skin than average Europeans. The Christian denominations that originated from Europe and America are blasphemous perversions of the original interpretations of The Bible to help benefit greedy people who perverted the interpretations of the original Bible to gain money and power. Female pastors are a joke considering the patriarchal scriptures in The Bible. I can’t take people seriously when they say premarital sex and enjoying sex are sinful because of their religious beliefs. Because they come across as extremely cruel to me. Most people want to enjoy sex and usually have premarital sex. Even our ancestors probably had discreet premarital sex during times when premarital sex was more controversial. Also, the reason why I’m agnostic comes from my tendency to question authority, society, people, and things in general rather than have blind faith. I wouldn’t trust a God that willingly creates people that cause war, disease, poverty, lies, brainwashing, rape, sexism, racism, classism, pain, suffering, and other things.
People only have rights they can and will defend. Or there will be rights activists, protesters, rioters, and other types of people defending other people’s rights. Rights that I support are gun rights as long as psychologically stable people are using guns for hunting and protecting people from abuse and tyranny rather than using guns to murder people for fun. I don’t like the thought of mass shootings in schools. Online privacy rights are what I like. Because I don’t like the Orwellian online surveillance that elites have legalised to spy on their citizens. People have been known to do horrifying things regardless of how powerful they are. Which is why I cynically don’t like human elites spying on me with online surveillance instead of them politely minding their own business. Free speech is a right that attracts me because it allows unfiltered honesty, artistic authenticity, unlimited things to talk about in debates, and a chance for people to prevent themselves from being abused by heavily censored governments that allow deceptive politicians to create policies that silence abused workers for example.
This is like saying Christopher is not Columbus’s first name. Or Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor, was not really named Charles.
Because everyone fits a stereotype.
It’s not like we don’t have choices.
Re: Adultery:
I believe it’s a civil contract that’s been broken and it should be settled that way. Don’t you have remedies in the case that the spouse has cheated when it comes to divorce? Criminalization would be a stretch.
There are also too many variables to consider when it comes to the entire family and their dynamics. For example, it wouldn’t be possible to predict if the issue can be resolved amongst the spouses after the victim has cooled down. Arresting the cheating spouse may have an even worse effect on the kids depending on the circumstances.
Re: Alienation of affection:
The majority of traditional Chinese parents in Asia up to the 90s would be arrested. They’d have locked my dad up and thrown away the key.
Shit, a couple of years back, my dad asked me to help him change the settings in his phone. I saw a message from my mom reading, “Miss U” and the rely, “Miss U too” and this “traumatized” me to the point it was like someone walking in the bedroom while their parents were having sex when they were kids.
Not only that, I was like, “Who is this man in front of me? I don’t recognize him anymore. Where’s my real dad?”.
Even when it comes to cheating, half of my ethnically Chinese friends still go on monthly sex trips abroad and I’m pretty sure most of their wives just pretend they don’t know. It’s kind of a “normal” thing amongst lots of men in the upper middle class.
Depends where you live, isn’t illigal in all countries
You wrote.
“If a kid (let’s say below the age of sixteen for standardized reference as some countries have the legal age of purchase set to sixteen”
I assume it would be illegal.
I figure you know this, but for those others confused it’s a line from my favorite Robin Williams live standup recording. Also I find it really funny that they’d only get a few packs of cigs for their martyrdom 
Fuck those sissy cigarettes!
I honestly didn’t lol. I was never a fan of Robin Williams haha.
Heresy! I will forgive your insolence… But only this once!
The portion in question:
As specified, depends on the country. America has some of the harshest laws in the world regarding this kind of conduct. Note some countries allow you to drink (if accompanied by an adult guardian) at the age of fourteen. There is a HUGE discrepancy between many European countries regarding how they treat vice vs how America treats it. Ironically it appears many are statistically better off as a result of less punitive policy.
In certain countries and cultures, it isn’t illegal to supply a minor with tobacco products or alcoholic beverages. Even in my state (not from US) it’s technically legal for an adult guardian to supply a minor with alcohol.
White ox unfiltered or nothing at all!
Do you resent him for his method of parenting? Do you wish he had taken a different approach?
Is this a deterrent though? Or are we talking punishment for the sake of punishment regardless of whether the outcome results in a more productive, kind member of society?
Wouldn’t advocating for forced rehabilitation, therapy and the likes be a better way of taxpayer funds being spent? Let’s say you send a cheater to prison, he/she comes out jaded, apathetic and angry, turns to a life of crime. Child now has a serious criminal for a father or mother, familial dynamics are further torn apart and the trajectory for the child may be considerably more altered towards a negative outcome as compared to the event of adultery/divorce alone.
Minding our own business would be the best way to not spend any tax payer money.
I wasn’t actually aware the Bible only promoted polygamy. I may be wrong but I’m fairly sure there are passages that contradict one another. There are passages condoning polygamy just as there are portions of text scrutinising the concept. So to state “the Bible condones polygamy” might be somewhat of an exaggeration. It does… And it doesn’t… You can’t pick and choose
I don’t have an legal qualm with the idea of “swinging”, nor do I find it particularly unethical. With that being noted, I don’t agree with it. It seldom works out, requires a combination of two people harbouring very specific character traits for this kind of relationship dynamic to work. It CAN work for some, I happen to anecdotally know one or two cases wherein it’s worked out. Though typically emotions run high, fears of rejection run rampant and the intimate, private nature of relations interject thus breaking down the barriers that form and solidify a relationship.
For those for whom such an approach to a relationship works… Great! Good for them. But for the other 99% of the population the “multiple partners” schtick is stupid and equates to shooting yourself in the foot with regards to relationship stability.
Are we referring to direct variables only like bad parenting, poor education etc? If we talk of ALL trajectory altering variables fast food/soda companies should be getting shafted for promoting childhood obesity and eventual heart disease. Companies that promote alcoholic beverages in Australia ought to be shut down for deliberately promoting and advertising fruity, soda like beverages that are very clearly aimed towards teenagers.
I suppose excessive government intervention equates to imposing a nanny state mentality. Though minding our business may equate to quite a few lives lost to drug addiction, criminal induction etc. Should we really be minding our business for kids who have parents that don’t spend ANY time with the child, leaving them to fend for themselves outside of the most basic, bare necessities like food and public school fees?
Surely doing so should be considered neglect/abuse of some kind. Parents who have children (don’t abort the child or put it up for adoption) ought to accept that having a child equates to bearing a very large responsibility. Perhaps bigger than anything they’ve ever had to handle before.
This is a human being (no longer attached to the mother, a FULLY formed, cognisant creature) we speak of. Growing up a child (particularly below teenage years) requires nurturing, to be taken care of extensively as they are not independent or mature enough to brave the brunt of the outside world. For a parent to ignore these requirements and leave the child to brave the harsh climate of his or her surroundings to me seems inhumane.
The question is… Would the child be better off in a shelter, orphanage or foster home? Perhaps not, the physical/sexual abuse and neglect seen within these environments may equate to an even worse outcome for the child.
Drug/alcohol addicted parents are also particularly troublesome if they aren’t “functional” addicts as they are liable to neglect the child’s bare requirements in an effort to procure narcotics. They (usually) do care about the child, though addiction can have a very strong grip on an individuals character. Very sad scenario to see a parent lose a child due to rampant heroin addiction. Child has his/her trajectory altered and the parent loses a child. In such a case perhaps attempting to replace the heroin addiction with opiate substitution therapy may enable the parent to keep the child and simultaneously hold down a job/provide for the kid?
We even see this with cigarettes here. At nearly 50$/pack and disproportional rates of smoking amongst the lowest socioeconomic demographics there are rampant reports of parents spending money on cigarettes as opposed to food to feed their school aged children, leading kids to go without meals.
We don’t.
And how many of those kids are born out of wedlock, making laws against adultery irrelevant?
Thankfully rates of teenage pregnancy in Australia are fairly low, somewhat lower than the USA. I’m aware this can occur with adults, but I think teenage pregnancy is more destructive and tends to result in worse outcomes
Interesting as I believe the median avg age for loss of virginity in Aus is slightly lower than America.
I didn’t mention jail or death or anything specifically. I wouldn’t want a death penalty for it.
It is not promoted. It occurred for the patriarchs and it caused them great trouble.
I think St. Paul spoke against it but I’d have to check. As I said, it is not condoned in Catholicism.
I’ve watched two documentaries on polygamy in Mormonism and it is not pretty at all. And as said, common sense alone can tell that it isn’t.
I am aware of that.
Do those countries allow any adult to buy for the minor? As far as I know it has to be parent/guardian.
I may not agree with everything the Bible/Torah has to say (WHY can’t I eat bacon dammit… I eat bacon regardless though my family craps on me for it and I don’t do it in front of them)… BUT, I feel as if there is quite a lot of unnecessary commentary consisting of “half-truths” going around regarding certain aspects of religious scripture. The Bible doesn’t systemically promote or encourage polygamy, cruelty etc.
BuT tHiS pAsSaGe SaYs tHiS! The Bible is a big book, it says a lot of things. Don’t fixate on one or two sentences, focus on the overall message the scripture tries to tell.
Sure, I think the scripture is contradictory at times and if we were to take a literal interpretation of the texts and apply it to societal rule it’d be troublesome… That’s how groups like ISIS start up
But many fail to note the concept of the scripture isn’t to take every passage so literally as to actually say… Stone your son for disobeying you. The idea is to instill a foundation of moral fundamentals to abide by that at the time were (and many are still relevant) considered the pinnacle of decency/well mannered behaviour.
More can be noted regarding the sense of community some organised religions bring about within their ranks. If I ever find myself in a horrible spot… Say I’m robbed and beaten overseas, my passport has been stolen etc, chances are I can turn up to a synogague and be provided with a meal and some comfort.
There are many negatives in my opinion colloquially associated with organised religion, though many fail to note there ARE positives too. I happen to believe we would have waaayyyyy less conflict if religion didn’t exist. The amount of wars fought, the amount of senseless death over lack of tolerability towards differing religious affiliation astounds me. How can people be so stupid as to decry one sect of Islam as inferior and subsequently start slaughtering people over that bullshit?
Ehhh, I don’t know… Perhaps we’d find something else to fight about, but as it stands I believe religion mediated a lot of conflict. Isreal/Palestine conflict, the holocaust, Spanish inquisition, Rwandan genocide… Without religion these barbaric atrocities probably would have never occured.