One of the best observations I have heard in a long time.
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The truth is, teachers have to question kids about their parents, as they are more likely to be abusing their children than teachers.
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Well if there are signs of abuse, teachers and any carIng adults should look into the matter.
Perhaps those who say every darn thing for the protection of children should be solely on parents we should consider we give up all daycare, foster homes, child-protective services, public schooling, and any food subsidies for food-insecure kids.
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The thing is, I fail to see how degenerate the US can possibly be relative to everywhere else while being the No. 1 economy in the world and all that.
There are lots of degenerates in every country in Asia but you donāt read about it because lots of the governments censor the press. Itās not like weāre churning out Nobel Laureates in record numbers here compared to the ādepraved and decadent Westā.
China is a high trust society btw.
Who is saying this? Iām not talking in extremes here.
Can you not see how degeneracy makes a lot of money, even more so than meaningful work in many cases?
Perhaps you donāt see firsthand how degenerate we are.
Actually, aside from talking generally, even from an individualistic standpoint, if I were single with no kids and no morals I could make far more money legally than I do now.
This reminds me of a thought I was having yesterday. It was about child rearing back in the day. How children were disciplined by people in the community other than their parents.
Misbehaved at school you got the paddle. If your neighbour caught you acting up you got a smack behind the ears. Now paddling at school was gone when I went through primary school. But as young child in the 90s I remember being disciplined by neighbours and other members of the community.
I remember misbehaving and being told to stand in the corner of the room facing the corner until I was given permission to join the group haha.
There definitely seemed to be a cultural shift in the early 2000ās though. At least in my community. It has probably further increased in the years since I finished primary school.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the dynamics of low vs high trust societies. Iāve never heard of that concept before so thanks for sharing.
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Welcome. Look it up if you like.
Thereās plenty of material
On the topic.
Example:
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Again, Iām not talking in extremes here. Iām not saying the US is the bastion of human civilization and morality. All Iām saying is youāre doing pretty fine compared to real shit hole countries.
Youāve not seen firsthand the kind of degeneracy in other countries is either. Letās not fall into āthe grass is greener on the other sideā trap.
Interesting.
China and Sweden nearly tied in regards to trust according to that article.
Makes you wonder what the common denominator is because those two countries couldnāt be further apart. At least that is what I would think with my limited understanding of the two cultures and governments.
I would imagine China much like most other asian countries holds a more cultural collective mentality. Europe is more about individuality.
Would it be worthwhile to speculate if ātrustā means the same thing in those two cultures? Or at least the factors contributing to trust in those two countries must be different.
Without looking at any data I wouldnāt be surprised if the US is trending towards decrease trust in society.
Looking through that article I was trying to think off the top of my head what might be some most important factors contributing to high trust in society.
One thing that came to mind was homogenous demographic.
Or maybe its wealth.
Surprising to see that in Japan more people disagree with the statement that most people in society are trustful.
That should actually you that these stats arenāt reliable for interpretation in this manner. Every single media organization is State owned in China for starters.
Hereās an example:
Theyāre been uniformly spinning the narrative that COVID started in the US because there was a spike in flu cases or something in December(canāt remember the full details. Was it due to vaping plus flu season?) plus the 3 different strains of the virus originating from another place I canāt remember linked to the US.
Youāre right with this one. But it has nothing to do with ex-communist countries. Racially Chinese people all over the world are like that. Itās a Confucian thing.
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I would attribute it to a propensity for adherence to hierarchies for Chinese people. Itās how weāre brought up. Donāt forget, throughout history we were always ruled by an Emperor all the way up to 1911.
Also, why do you think Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan, all parliamentary democracies, still have mandatory military service for men? Actually, Sweden may also have it IIRC.
Maybe mandatory conscription for up to 2 years should be introduced in the US for 18 year old men? It would violate the Human Rights Act but other First World countries are doing it anyway.
Amazing. I guess if you donāt have access to anything other than state owned news networks how would you know.
Is it really? Would you be able to elaborate on that? Like a two sentence or three sentence elaboration.
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I do think there should be mandatory conscription in the States. Might solve a few problems. But might also make things worse. Couldnāt do it now though. People would be in an uproar about it.
At least we still have the selective service system.
What does being a parliamentary democracy have to do with mandatory military service though? Not seeing the connection.
And who else would you trust other than the State when the media doesnāt write bad shit about them?
The younger guys all have VPNs so they can read international news. Which is why I always try to make it clear when Iām saying bad shit about China that Iām talking about the government by using the word CCP.
Itās up to the future generation to make changes and I donāt want them to think people are anti-Chinese as in Chinese people as a race. They will eventually figure this shit out.
Itās something like this. It extends to people in positions of authority in modern application.
Some of the more traditional fellows have tablets with generations of dead family membersā names on them placed on altars in their living room. Itās pretty rare now.
My parents still have a picture of my dead grandfather placed in their living room placed on top of a shelf with a pack of his favorite cigarettes in front of it. Theyāre Catholics.
Plus the history of Imperial Exams to qualify for a civil service position. The exams were tough but if you passed you were essentially considered a far higher status than the average person.
So people remain adherent to hierarchy even with political freedom. All this talk about being surrounded by potential enemies who may invade you at any given moment is bullshit, with South Korea being a possible exception. Thereās no way Taiwan will ever go to war with China. Japan is some weird cultural outlier that I canāt quite figure out.
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Iāll check article but Iām not surprised. Throughout history to the current day (from my admittedly limited knowledge), majority groups have ran the show in their own spaces. The reverse is actually unique.
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Considering the brain drain and all else it appears they value being predominantly Malaysian versus modernization, technological or industrial advancement.
Iād like to say more on reality but I canāt.
Thereās no need to wonder. If you use history and observation, youāll know. As usual I canāt say why and Iām sure me saying this over and over is annoying.
But you can simply look at characteristics of low trust and high trust societies and see significant trends. You can also look into what causes conflict over and over again.
Americans donāt like facing reality though because āthis is Americaā and āitās 2020ā despite the current year having absolutely nothing to do with what much of the world thinks and how most of its inhabitants think and behave. Which actually shows that despite Americans believing theyāre the most tolerant and peaceful are some of the most imperialistic, dismissive, and coercive people around. That is, they want all of mankind to think and live like them.
@dt79 thatās why Iām not surprised you said lower-class workers you met think the US is evil. Much of the worlds trash culture and ideas come from NYC and Hollywood.
Despite this I will say I am patriotic and loved what America was or maybe* can be. Unfortunately I predict civil war and a Soviet or Yugoslavia style breakup eventually. No not tomorrow, but eventually. I certainly am not looking forward to it and it might come after Iām gone. But I think my kids will experience it.
You are completely wrong. Iāve already given an answer for his post above.
Btw Iāve deleted lots of stuff I posted. Not worth the risk.
No, China hates the US. Other countries hate the West because of past colonization by the Brits and all. You watched Fist of Fury? The part where Bruce Lee kicks the sign outside the British club with the words āNo Chinese or dogs allowedā? That was the kind of cartharsis people got out of his movies.
