Nearly all.
Divorce is more socially acceptable because of all that I’m talking about here, people caring less about actual consequences and the invention of what is ironically named “no-fault divorce, which means a spouse can wake up one day and say “I’m bored; I want a divorce,” then call a divorce lawyer and take what is usually a man of modest or less means to the cleaners.
It is possible for maladaptive things to be popular. The results are in.
Yeah? What’s the point?
Why not? It would depend on context wouldn’t it?
Isn’t that “point” you alluded to above usually that if something doesn’t directly physically harm me now, I should just wait patiently until it does?
I know. That’s the beauty of it. The ‘great wisdom’ embedded in the saying hasn’t a shred of truth to it in the microcosmic sense or the macro.
It only comes close enough to true for people to repeat since it intimates infinite freedom, liberty, zero consequences. That feeling is the only shred of truth to the saying.
Someone prove me wrong please, I might love you for it.
I mean who the hell am I to take that feeling away from someone, regardless of how destructive things are * about to be*, unless and until they are directly physically harming me, now?
Who the hell am I?
Just some idiot guy standing around hoping to not get my face smashed by idiots. It started looking more and more likely so hoping gave birth to trying now I make words against the nonsense
Hey I’m probably exaggerating “a little”, but it shouldn’t matter since I’m “making a point” with falsehood that’s more valuable than the truths that I bury
There is “at-fault” divorce too. So in some cases yes: failure to fulfill parenting obligations, withholding sex, abuse, etc.
Exactly.
However a big conundrum is people willing or seeking to hurt my children, mostly mentally or emotionally, even in some cases intellectually. It wasn’t this much when I was growing up (late Gen X-early millenial) but the full-court press is on.
No, I was saying that if the intent of the act was to threaten physical harm upon you, then it’s an illegal act in itself.
Which should answer the rest of your post.
That wasn’t all that convincing TBH.
IMO, the biggest factor to higher divorce rates and such is that it is more socially acceptable. I think many would have gotten divorced in the 1950’s if they wouldn’t get socially ostracized for it.
I will not convince you considering the damaging things I mentioned will not convince you of my point anyway.
They were ostracized because people were much more aware of the damage broken homes result in. Frankly, considering I think no-fault divorce is utterly ridiculous and damaging, I am not at all sympathetic to those who wanted to have it back then.
Religion put a crimp in divorce and sexual libertinism for practical reasons. Religion isn’t all about praying to god or gods.
No it answers none of my post
What is the saying about swinging arms near people’s faces without actually touching supposed to communicate?
Who, IRL, actually swings their arms in front of people’s faces for shits and giggles lol?
You’re seriously overthinking this.
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What is supposed to be the message?
I’m ok with overthinking many things, wouldn’t be me if I didn’t do so regularly out of habit
The message to me is this:
“I’m gonna do whatever I wanna do! If this includes acting like full loon violently flailing my body about, it’s not my problem you feel uncomfortable or threatened or disgusted. It is YOU who has to tame your visceral reactions and accept it! It is not ME who has to tame my desire.
Sucker!”
Ok, look, one of my main triggers that drives me completely bonkers is the sound of a child crying. I can’t explain why but it gets on my nerves so much I can’t even think straight and I literally have to restrain myself from walking over and punching the parent in the face.
Why should I have to put up with that in a public space?
Because you have the intellect to realize that a baby has few or no other ways to communicate its needs or discomfort to its mommy or daddy, which is far different than an adult who can withhold from purposely offending others or who thinks every one of his annoying or worse desires is more important than withholding from hurting others with fulfilling them.
See some prank videos in which dupes even get heart attacks or scared out of their wits for example.
I am convinced the things you mentioned are more prevalent. I am not convinced that it is because of sexual revolution.
I think you are only looking at the negatives of divorce. What about the woman who is stuck with a cheating abusive man? What about the kids that have an abusive parent? As I said, it can be a better option than staying together. Many of the people in the 50s were guilty of the same thing (only looking at the negatives).
The parents, whom are custodians of the child, can keep the kid at home and it can cry as much as it wants. It’s reasonably foreseeable, especially for parents of 'difficult" children, that the kid will create a ruckus outside.
Of course, this is not a great example and absolutely not something that I’m advocating, but I’m sure you see the point I’m making.
Sorry to hear that man, must be tough
You don’t have to, you can give in and commit assault instead
Why should laws be designed to protect them from you instead of the other way around? Why don’t we make it illegal to bring babies in public?
How would potential answers to these be relevant to the saying?
As said, that would be at-fault divorce, which I’m all for.
How much have you read about the sexual revolution?
In which I would be jailed.
See what I’m saying?
We don’t because we, as a society, need to tolerate certain things even though we don’t like them or find them acceptable.
I would be more than happy to ban babies in public but I would NEVER advocate for such a law to be passed.