Religion Catch All

Respectfully @mnben87, if you question whether the entire universe is merely a product of your ‘mind’, how do you square that with others who feel the same way that you come into contact with? Your mind just created a companion of like mind?
Too much faith for me to accept that closed circle.

Thus if you queston others’ existence, what irrefutable proof could you ever be shown to believe in God? Again asking in respect, if l am misunderstanding.

They call it god, but they don’t know it’s god. Also, that’s faith.

Correct, faith. Faith that the “experiences” are actually connected to something outside ourselves. Like having faith in reality as something outside of ourselves.

Not exactly. There’s this thing called science. Of course, you could say, “but you have faith in science,” to which I would answer, “live your life as though science isn’t real and see what happens.” Keep in mind, if we accept that nothing is real then that would apply to god as well. In other words, belief in god includes a belief in reality.

I don’t think this. I was more commenting on solipsism in general. I think we should act and make decisions the same whether what we experience is only in our mind, or is actual reality. Thus the issue of solipsism isn’t really an issue.

I don’t question others existence. I have no reason to believe they are not real. It is possible that it is just me, but many things are possible. Possible isn’t a good reason to believe something. Evidence is.

For me existence of a specific God would require evidence. I can’t say exactly what that would be now, but many things would qualify. Let’s say I loose an arm, and a pastor / priest prays over it, and it grows back. That would be sufficient for me. God could reveal himself. That would be sufficient.

I’ll say that I don’t think reasonable proof has been presented yet. It is still possible that someone can prove a God. Once I see a proof that is sufficient, I’ll believe.

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Of course a belief in God includes a belief in reality. We all pretty much start from faith in reality.

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It’s not faith.

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Ok, I disagree for reasons stated above.

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Faith is belief in the absence of evidence. We have evidence for reality.

Faith in a God is different than faith that reality exists. We don’t have any evidence that we (I) am just a mind, and that every thing is a an illusion. We don’t have any good evidence of a god. Believing one is just a mind and that reality doesn’t exist is on the same level as believing in a god. No good evidence exists for either. Plenty of evidence exists for reality.

Any evidence in this reality is experienced by a mind whose reliability has been questioned here.

It’s still evidence.

Even if it was just ones mind, and everything was an illusion, we should still make decisions about belief the same way as if it were reality. Believe when evidence is presented.

Many claim we all use faith. Well I hope I don’t, and if someone points out where I am using faith, guess what, I’ll stop doing it.

It isn’t faith to accept reality. It is accepting what is the most likely true thing that is backed up by evidence. It isn’t faith. It isn’t faith to accept evolution despite what many creationists say. It is accepting what is the closest to true explanation we know right now, that is backed up by evidence. It requires faith to believe in a creation story, because it lacks the things evolution has (backed by evidence).

Of your singular mind perhaps. But of this reality, including others, no. Which is exactly where we started.

That would also have to be perhaps.

But live your life as though there is only your reality and see what happens.

And it’s where faith in god also starts so what’s the point?

On this, there is no evidence of it, so it (solipsism) should just be dismissed as an idea and nothing more.

Seems to be the greatest evidence. I can only experience my own thought. Evidence of my singular mind.

For now.

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Has anyone ever told you something you haven’t heard before?

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Thanks guys. Vet time for the my little buddy. Even if he is the figment of my imagination, which only has the illusion of free choice, in a 3D hologram of a Universe projected off of some kind of 2d reality…I still love the little crapper.