Religion Catch All

I’m not giving you reccomendations my friend. I wouldn’t take life advice from someone such as myself. I’ve given my opinions/viewpoints relating to various topics, you are free to agree/disagree with me.

Perhaps my viewpoints/outlook ought to chance as it’s brought me nothing but a misanthropic, nihilistic attitude served up with an overt sense of cynicism. But it is what it is, I’m fairly set in my ways. I’m not a heathen or a drug riddled college dropout as I presume you assume of me. I’m just an average guy trying to find a sense of purpose throughout my journey.

It should be noted, depressed or not drug use is a choice; and generally speaking not a very good one at that. I have no problem with people taking drugs so long as downstream rammifications/consequences associated with use don’t trickle down upon others, and this can be the case when certain substances (i.e alcohol, cannabis and “party drugs) are used on special occasions. Nowdays I’m not particuarly one for that lifestyle. I don’t believe it’s a productive use of my time, that being said I don’t think there’s anything wrong with letting loose once in a blue moon and I certainly don’t think people should be executed or chucked in jail for possessing minute quantities of drugs.

I don’t sympathise with those who commit adultry/cheat on spouses and significant others as doing so is a betrayal of trust and a breach within the structural commodies/bond that forms a romantic relationship. I don’t believe adultry should be illegal, however I do think it’s a shitty, shitty thing to do.

The old days isn’t the same as the 1950s, many of the reform/crime bills instating mandatory minimum sentences for minor, otherwise victimless crimes were passed in the 70s-90s.

This is open to interpretation, you infer “rational, sensible living” to be living under the guise of guidelines preached by Christianity. There’s nothing inherently wrong with this, aside from a few caveats Christianity generally instills adequate moral fundamentals. That being said I don’t agree with this, to be religious or not ought to be a choice. I was raised modern orthodox, religion doesn’t work for everyone. Some people break out

There is one thing I wonder about however. You are friendly with numerous bodybuilders, I’ve seen a few of your podcasts (good shit by the way!). Do you view anabolic steroid use within a different light to that of recreational drugs? Or do some get a free pass as the use is intended to help the individual reach a specific goal?

I speak of these vices in a philosophical/theoretical context. I hardly gamble, I don’t cheat, steal or lie; I don’t take hard drugs and rarely use recreational intoxicants. I treat others the way I wish I was treated, generally regardless of character. I wish you and your family the best of luck navagating through the waters of our modern era society.

I get the feeling you have a perception of me that probably isn’t reflective of my actual character in person. I may on occasion do things you disapprove of, and I may be pessimistic, nihilistic and cynical; though I’d argue this is a byproduct relating to many environmental events/factors that have moulded me into the individual I am today

I’m not ashamed to speak my mind… we have different outlooks and that’s okay. I think you have a valid point when talking about vice/moral fundamentals, as I’ve specified before I just don’t agree with the majority of your philosophical outlook

I’m not recommending your kids engage with vices, why/how did you infer this? My philosophy is more or less relative indifference. I wish your children the best of luck and I hope they grow up to be productive, fully formed adults. I don’t wish to make life harder for anyone, then again certain elements of society clearly aren’t denoted towards children. Whether something is licit or illicit, moral or degenerate shouldn’t be on the basis of whether a behaviour or action is appropriate for a child to interact with.

Not at all. I wasn’t thinking of Christianity while writing that nor was I interested in Christianity when I came upon the concept of rational lifestyles.

Fair, regarding other points as you’ve stated we are at an impasse. I’d like to state I harbour no hard feelings towards you and I am appreciative that we have managed to keep our discourse relatively civil despite being so different from one another

In today’s era, particularly online it is rare two individuals harbouring opposing bodies of thought can speak in a civil, rational and grounded tone :slight_smile:

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Roe v. Wade did not rely upon legal precedent.

Luke 7:6-10

And Jesus went with them. And when he was now not far from the house, the centurion sent his friends to him, saying: Lord, trouble not thyself; for I am not worthy that thou shouldest enter under my roof. For which cause neither did I think myself worthy to come to thee; but say the word, and my servant shall be healed. For I also am a man subject to authority, having under me soldiers: and I say to one, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doth it. Which Jesus hearing, marvelled: and turning about to the multitude that followed him, he said: Amen I say to you, I have not found so great faith, not even in Israel. And they who were sent, being returned to the house, found the servant whole who had been sick.

His faith impressed Jesus and we quote him at every mass. The part that I love is that we don’t even get his name!

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Or making them kings or popes.

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Thanks.

  1. Rubbish. You obviously haven’t read the case.
  2. Row v Wade has set a new precedent.

I’m sorry, man. The reason I have to debunk this is because there are people who believe the sky is falling and you made a statement like this;

I am against abortion and have shared my view on legal theory on why it should not be legal. But just because you don’t agree with a court decision doesn’t mean there has been any fault in the legal process.

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Agreed.

Regarding bodybuilding, how is a man posing on stage all oiled up and wearing nothing but a thong while people are admiring and discussing the striations on his ass not “degenerate”?

My dad thought society was going to end once he found out that the sport of bodybuilding existed lol. My dad doesn’t make threats. He makes promises. He promised me that if he ever found out I did that on stage in public he would break my legs.

FWIW I don’t really follow the sport because although I like bodybuilding as building a good body with nice proportions, actually watching people posing on stage virtually makes me feel uneasy and “wrong”. It’s just me. Just a feeling I get. Not passing judgement in any form on the sport nor it’s participants.

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It’s about admiring human body/the feats one can perform within an athletic context relating to physical prowess

Admiring someone’s ass when they walk by is doing so within a sexual context, with bodybuilding the sexual connotation isn’t omnipresent

It takes hard work and dedication (gear or no gear) to come in peeled and shredded the way bodybuilders do. It isn’t a healthy sport by any means; the injuries, crash dieting, substance abuse, the superficial/narcissistic mentalities and more, bodybuilding is easily one of the most self destructive sports one could take part in. On the other hand, it takes a tremendous amount of dedication/discipline to achieve a “stage ready” body and abiding by a regular workout routine instills a good work ethic.

Try telling that to my dad.

It was a federal issue prior to Roe v. Wade? The fact that it set a new precedent does not conflict with what I said at all.

I am against it, but think it’s pretty much the last issue that would matter(get everything else right, and I’ll worry about it). I’m not even sure it should be illegal. Legality is not the problem with Roe v. Wade.

You have no idea what you’re saying. That’s the problem.

You’re welcome to explain the legal precedent that made abortion a federal issue.

Not before you read the case AND understand what precedents are.

Just curious, do you believe it should be illegal under any pretence or do you agree with abortion under certain circumstances. Imagine under a theoretical scenario a woman is raped and falls pregnant, should she be able to terminate the pregnancy?

What if the child is to come out intellectually disabled, or if the pregnancy serves as a serious, potentially life threatening threat to the woman’s physical health?

Yes.

No.

Yes.

A message to @dt79’s father

“Bodybuilding isn’t degenerate, but it is self destructive and unhealthy… DAMMIT!”

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This isn’t what bodybuilding is about anymore, aside from natural leagues (some of which aren’t natural anyway, only equating to “not on drugs at that very moment) bodybuilding equates to “who can pack on the most size and not spill over on stage”. It is for this reason + toxic influencer culture as to why I don’t “follow” bodybuilding anymore

It’s a shame, because it’s awfully fun to partake in (the working out). Society would be better off if the ‘exercise focused’ and resistance training portions of bodybuilding gained mainstream traction.

Are you trying to say that Roe v. Wade established precedent? No argument there.