Relationship/Marriage and Pornography

He will be 69 next year (ahaaaaa)

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Agreed, the interesting construct revolving around vice relates to how one otherwise ordinary activity for you or I may be considered the ultimate vice for another

Take shopping for example… I’m not a fan of wasting money on materialistic BS, others revel in it. Some might go so far down that rabbit hole they end up spending every cent they earn (and more) on shoes and designer clothing.

Same can be said about porn. You have the subtype who might look at it a couple of times per month when their partner isn’t up for sex, then you have those who spend every waking moment looking at porn. It’s rare… but it exists, those who spend hours and hours per day watching porn; enslaved to a computer screen.

Pornography is universally considered to be a vice whereas shopping isn’t. But not everyone exposed to vice becomes enslaved to said vice. I’d argue the majority don’t.

Most who are exposed to alcohol don’t become alcoholics, most exposed to cannabis don’t become potheads, most exposed to porn don’t become addicts, most exposed to junk food don’t become binge eaters. I’ve even got this “thing” going on where I try KFC in every single country I visit

@BrickHead ask me which country has the best KFC! One country tops all others… this country has oriental flavoured wicked wings! They were fantastic… dammit… I want that KFC again… but I’m not addicted, I just need it more than anything else in the world.

Granted some vices are more poisonous than others. Statistically, a large portion of those who are exposed to tobacco will go on to smoke regularly. Of those who use heroin just once, around 10% will immediately begin to use regularly and a much larger percentage eventually wind up addicted.

Countries I’ve tried KFC

  • UK
  • USA
  • Netherlands
  • South Africa
  • Spain
  • Belgium
  • Israel
  • Japan
  • Australia
  • Greece
  • Mexico

And a few others… I am a KFC connoisseur, and I can and will go out of my way to procure KFC if it’s from a new country.

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For novelty purposes… sometimes this actually does occur. However it’s generally unpleasant

you’ll have a demographic of women who want to “try” sleep with you due to the novelty. If you don’t care about being treated like a piece of salami/a steak/piece of meat… fine.

But even then, many will likely have a hard time getting off when penetrative sex is extremely difficult to come by, even with the women I mention above. When you have a gigantic penis (let’s say 8.5 inches + with reasonable girth) finding a compatible partner is going to be extremely difficult.

Most pornstars aren’t as big as Ron Jeremy. Ron Jeremy has a member that is around nine inches fully erect, we can assume this is accompanied by considerable girth. Very few in the adult industry, let alone women in the real world are going to be able to tolerate this.

I think most dildos (prosthetic members) created to optimise stimuli are what? Seven inches

Upon looking it up it appears 6-7 inches are the most sought after. Seven inches is considerably larger than the median size, six inches is somewhat above the norm… but only slightly.

Yes. And they do.

South Africa has the best KFC @BrickHead

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Thank you for this information lol

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I assume it’s the sex they’re aroused by, not the woman somehow getting stuck inside a couch or the postman needing an extremely attractive woman to sign for a package. Take the stupid context out and insert the explicit material in and I suppose it works… though it doesn’t work for me.

I used to watch ‘‘homemade’’ content produced by couples, however the industry has taken note of this and nowadays a lot of the “amateur” content isn’t actually produced at home. I’m trying my best to cut out hardcore pornography entirely. I don’t have a problem with the likes of playboy and never will, girlie mags have existed since the 1800’s. Almost from the second photography was invented. The US took a hard line stance on it, Europe was lenient, not sure what Aus did… I imagine they probably didn’t care all that much considering the age restriction for buying playboy at a gas station (currently) is typically 15+, hardcore content is 18+ and for the most part is heavily restricted re general sales.

I believe Hardcore videos can only legally be sold in one territory within Aus, but I don’t believe this is enforced as I’ve seen X18+ videos locked up on the top shelves of certain comic book stores. Had it not been for the internet, pornographic videos would have been quite difficult for young people to come across in Aus. Sex in movies isn’t typically restricted though… unless it is overtly gratuitous. Californication (TV series) is 15+, as are films like American pie.

Australia also has odd laws re pornographic material… like a new ban on animated pornography, ban on actors with small breasts… odd stuff…

On YouTube you can find "porn logic’’ with the explicit content taken out. The best I’ve seen entailed a couple talking about lemon trees for around two minutes, only to look behind them and they see a woman stealing lemons from their lemon trees. I suppose that’s an intro to sex?

Oh yeah. That’s a scene from “Lovely Lemon Launchers” which culminates in a woman scoring the winning extra point in the super bowl by launching a lemon through the uprights then celebrating by going duodenum deep on the quarter back, right?

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I’ve only seen that intro from YouTube. I don’t know which film it’s from or what happens afterwards, but I assume it’s something wholesome

Perhaps they all start a business together growing lemon trees!

Perhaps!

Did you know Australia has bans in place for porn if the actors have small boobs? Difficult to enforce given the internet/VPN’s exist.

I believe the rationale = less breast development entices paedophilia?

That’s not how it works though… as public hair, widening of hips, nipple development also factor in… facial features also change.

I’d argue the creepy shit consisting of “schoolgirls” or “male students held after class” dressed to look young promotes pedo fantasies… not small boobz

What does the length of time that porn content has been available have to do with you having a problem or not? If you’re going to be consistent on your stance regarding sexual morality you’ve written about here, wouldn’t you refrain from consuming content from a man like Hugh Hefner? Or perhaps you don’t know much about him.

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I know a little bit about Hugh Hefner

He was a billionaire/entrepreneur who popularised “the playboy mansion” where he and the models lived. Apparently some/most of the models did sleep with him, even into old age

The man was also purportedly an asshole who would regularly insult the women living with him as to lower perceived self confidence.

Playboy magazines debut was in 1953, I find it hard to believe he was sleeping with Marilyn Monroe at the time (or any of the models within the earlier issues), I also happen to believe hugh hefner purchased the playboy mansion in 1971, eighteen years after the magazine had initially been distributed.

I have no reason to believe those who came into contact with Hefner were subject to the abuse reported during the later eras wherein the models literally lived with Hefner. I’m sure Hugh Hefner himself was a despicable piece of shit, but I doubt he was as bad as the likes of Max Hardcore

Could be wrong though… and if I am, there are alternatives to playboy. As specified, softcore magazines have been around since the 1800’s

My stance hasn’t been centred around the precipice of sexual morality. I could care less about what consenting adults do in their own private bedrooms. If two adults in a relationship indulge in acts I find repulsive, but do so in private/out of public eye… I don’t care. Even if I did care… it’d be impossible to enforce a law like “no foot fetish stuff in private!” How can you bust someone for that?

I care about sexual violence, coercion and inflicting suffering unto unwilling participants. I don’t like seeing naive people getting taken advantage of at the hands of sadistic abusers.

My issue with pornography isn’t necessarily about the sex itself, though I believe putting a video of yourself having sex online for the world to see is a terrible decision to make. Due to social constructs present doing so could bar you from future employment opportunities, lead to various problems with dating and whatnot down the line. Websites like makelovenotporn… not particularly concerned about them…

On average playboy playmates tend to be somewhat older than pornographic actresses. Average age of playboy models back in the day was early 20’s, average age for playboy “playmate of the year” from what I recall was 24… I believe a 24 year old woman is more capable of being able to gauge long term repercussions associated with decisions as opposed to someone who has just turned 18 yesterday.

And with all of this said, I’ve specified I don’t believe consuming pornographic material ought to be a crime, however there shouldn’t be a legal avenue for producers like Max Hardcore (keep coming back to him, he’s the only one of this nature that I know) to create his unique brand of filth.

Some pro-porn people use the reasoning of porn being available for a long time. They’ll perhaps mention the ruins of Pompeii (I visited them) or elsewhere and look at the drawings of sex in what were whore houses, and phallic symbols all over, and say something like, “Haha, bro! We’ve always been obsessed with this! This is like ancient Bang Bros! Teehee!”

They ignore that sexual licentiousness was and is a sign of social decay.

This is out of the context of my post.

And sex in one’s own bedroom isn’t porn.

Your post was commenting on my post. You mentioned the consistency of my views regarding sexual morality.

I brought up adults having sex in private as this is my interpretation of sexual morality. Sexual morality covers the field associated with the ethics of sexual behaviour as seen through social, cultural or philosophical perspectives.

When I refer to my issues with pornography, I generally indicate my issue with pornography isn’t the sex itself. With that being said, my issue with pornography doesn’t relate to sexual morality. When I think of “sexual morality” I think about specific acts/behaviours, hence my irrelevant analogy.

Licticiousnees refers to “without restraint/morale” by this definition I’d say you are probably correct. However various societies that have a permissive, albeit not amoral stance towards sex are doing quite well.

Netherlands has ease of access to pornography provided you are above the age of eighteen. They also have a “red light district” with prostitutes advertising themselves at the windows, sex shops all over the place within red light districts… soft drugs are also sold openly… but establishments need to be legally situated a fair distance away from schools.

But they have one of the lowest rates of drug addiction within all of Europe (far lower than USA), their abortion rate per capita is literally 1/2 that of the USA, teen pregnancy rates are also very low… divorce rates are equitable to that of the USA (but hey… Russia has a divorce rate of 73% and they’ve got a less permissive attitude towards sex), NL also consistently ranks as one of the happiest countries in the world… in 2021 they ranked as top 5

Constructs like prostitution and pornography might be TOLERATED in NL, but they’re still frowned upon. Tolerance and acceptance are not the same.

I use NL in my analogies frequently because to me they point out a fatal flaw in the “it’s the permissive attitudes” argument… if permissive attitudes led to societal disintegration, the Netherlands would be in ruins by now, they tolerated hardcore pornography well before many other secular societies did… and they tolerated pot too… so long as both were kept away from kids… Permissive attitudes doesn’t =/= lack of moral fibre within a culture, but that is a separate topic from the one at hand here

I’m not pro-porn… but I’m willing to TOLERATE it’s existence depending on the form/context provided some degree of boundary to access is present. The stuff like “bang bros” was always too extreme/outlandish for me, “bang bros” can’t be compared to ancient phallic artifacts either. Bang bros is considerably more extreme relative to ancient pornographic depictions.

me and my fiancee watch porn. To be honest it helped us more than it damaged our relationship. We live separately at the moment and we see each other every other week. Death in her family is the reason.

She likes some actor Dean, because I make a wild sex like him. When she told me that she watches this actor particularly because it reminds her of our sex I got an extreme confidence boost in bed.

Meanwhile I have shared some of the videos I like and she made sure I got some of my pervert fantasies become reality. In general our sex life has improved due to sharing our porn lists.

When we are in the mood, but away from each other we are sexting with porn gifs

I hope someone tells me this some day.

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Do you think maybe that would be subject to change once you guys start living together permanently?

I ask because sometimes being away from someone can cause us to cling to these thoughts we attach to others. Being around someone 24/7 is a bit different than only seeing
Someone once a week or so.

Of course I’d hope it would change to better suit you two’s dynamic and such.

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