Hey all, this is one of my few posts but I have been following this forum for years for information. I have recently graduated from my University and will be attending an officer military academy for 5 months starting the first week in January. At the academy there is 0 lifting whatsoever. It’s all cardio and running. Currently I’m 220 lbs 8-10% BF and 5’11. I’ve been blasting and cruising for the past 3 years and have only taken about 3 months completely off during that time period. For obvious reasons, I will have to discontinue use very soon. I will be residing on the Academy grounds for 5 days per week and staying at my girl’s house on the weekends until after I graduate and get my own place (I’m not going to keep my gear there). Taking all of my things from my place and putting it in storage until I graduate, so life will be way different for a bit. Cruising just doesn’t seem like an option for me during this time period. Currently about half way through what I perceive to be my last cycle for quite a while, until after I have kids probably within the next two years. Have about 4 weeks left. I’m 24 years old and have been lifting for 11 years, juiced for 4. First year I cycled on and off. Ive done three tren and test cycles, and three test/masteron cycles. Right now I’m on 650mg test prop. I’ve never gone over a gram of combine PEDs. I have 10,000 IU HCG ready to go and can get all necessary SERMS or AIs. Any suggestions for a strong PCT would be much appreciated. Has anyone successfully recovered after something similar? How long until you got your sex drive back? During recovery I plan on decreasing volume, dropping carbs, increasing protein, and only focusing on compounds until I get to the academy. I understand that there’s a good chance I’ll need TRT for the rest of my life, and I’m fine with that. Also not sure what I’m gonna tell my girl when I can’t get it up during recovery!
You haven’t had bloodwork yet? I know they test for illicit drugs but I figured they would test for androgens for OCS. You basically have about 2 months to get your shit on track. I think I’d start now as opposed to waiting another month
I had a urinalysis and a just a basic physical testing cholesterol, blood pressure, etc. They didn’t screen me for androgens.
Any recommended PCT protocols?
Sorry brother I’m a blast/cruise guy.
me too. lol!
Well, theoretically, you could stash your gear at the GF’s house and still pin. You may not get tested until you are active duty. Just go to a low cruise dose…100mg/week. Nothing else needed. Might be easier.
My GF is young, only 21 and in nursing school so she lives with her parents. Not sure how well that would go over, lol. worth a shot i guess 
Its going to be difficult but I’m assuming there will be inspections at OCS.
yeah, I could leave it in my truck, but that seems sketchy. It’s also gonna be cold as fuck here in january
USAF Academy?
When you completed the interview process and they asked you about drug use, I hope you didnt totally deny it. Lying about it can get you disqualified altogether because its considered an issue of character. Did you disclose anything?
When they asked me about drug use, I only admitted to using marijuana, because thats all I had used at the time. But I told them I had only used 2 or 3 times as experiment. Then made sure I didn’t use after I knew it was out of my system. This was back in 96.
EDIT: Keep your business to your self, I would not disclose anything to any class mates. No one keeps secrets nowadays. Trust no one. They’d turn you in, if it meant them moving up.
I already passed a background/polygraph. i disclosed my recreational drug use. i was not asked specifically about gear. i’ve already passed my health screening, physical exams, etc. I did not disclose anabolic use to anybody. My best friends do not even know that they have been a part of my life for this reason. I like the idea of being able to talk about these sort of things anonymously which is why I turned to this forum. Has anyone had any experience coming off cold turkey? I still wanna lay pipe on the weekend. How much do you think performance will suffer? I’ve been in terminator mode since I was 21. 405 bench 700 deadlift and a 550 squat. did 27 pullups at the physical test. I guess I should expect these numbers to decrease drastically, correct?
I just talked with a gym friend who stopped Test/NPP cold turkey and apparently his cortisol crashed and caused all sorts of problems. If you do stop, I would try tapering.
@flipcollar and @jackolee probably have some good insight.
Jesus, gonna be a long academy…
Given your stats, you obviously like the gym and the juice. Your gonna end up back on AAS so why go on the roller coaster ride. I’d find a way to make a cruise work. Surely you could at least find a way to pin 200mg once weekly.
I sure wouldn’t want to be in one of the most stressful experiences of my life totally shut down and that’s exactly where you’ll be if you go cold turkey. Sure you could try to run HCG at like 350mg daily and tamoxifen 20mg daily for like 4 weeks and then cut the tamox to 10 but I still think your gonna be messed up. Who knows though you might have some super good genes and recover ok
From what I’m getting out of this, it sounds like your girlfriend doesn’t know you use? If you think you have a future with her, I’d tell her soon. I was married when I started using. Didn’t tell my wife. That was a disaster. Since then, I’ve been very forthcoming with girls I’ve dated, even casually, and it has made my life immensely easier and happier. Just a suggestion.
Why is TRT not an option? Is that not something the academy would be ok with? I’m talking about Dr prescribed TRT. When you come off, you could easily go to a clinic, get your test level checked (and it will be like 0) and get it prescribed. If that’s a possibility, that’s the way I would go.
If you decide that’s not an option, you can take some solace in the fact that people do recover from multiple years of steroid use, in certain instances. But it takes time. To fully recover, it could take 6 months, a year, or more. And you might not ever. A long pct will likely be required. I’d do 8 weeks if you go that route. similar protocol as far as doses go as what jack suggested. Don’t overdose tamox.
I get that you want your sex life to go on interrupted, but that ain’t gonna happen unless you go the TRT route. I don’t think there’s a chance in hell of avoiding sexual issues entirely, particularly in the short term, if you come off.
Thanks for the response, man. That’s very true and one of the things I was worried about. I am definitely going to end back on. This may be the route I have to take.
My girlfriend doesn’t know. She hasn’t questioned my usage and I haven’t brought it up. I’ve been with her for about six months and I can definitely see myself marrying her. She had a boyfriend a few years ago who was a juice head, and the relationship ended due to domestic assault. She attributes his actions to the gear, we’ve had that conversation - I told her AAS doesn’t do that to people and he was just a dick head; but I’ve never told her I was on. I’ll tell her tonight and see what she says. At least if I do end up coming off, she’ll know why I can’t get it up. The TRT route you described would be wonderful. Though, I don’t know if a doctor would put a 24 year old on TRT. Wouldn’t he most likely know it was because of AAS and just tell me to wait it out or put me on some HCG first? If it was scripted, then shit, that would be a dream come true. When I had blood-work done during my cycling phase, I was aiming to get some TRT. He just wrote STEROIDS?? in big red ink across my result paper. Given that we’re gonna be apart for about 2 years, with the exception of some weekends, I think the sex is pretty important to keep the relationship going. I guess the TRT is my only option
She thought all that was natural? Wow.
She probably does.