[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
So drop your calories. Lose the fat. Do interval training. If you do not have a caloric deficit YOU WILL NOT LOSE FAT.[/quote]
So if my maintenance level cals is 2834. Should I say cut 300 out my diet, and work 200 off in cardio at the gym?
maintenance is including your requirement for activity level. You need to go 500 or so below maintenance. 2334 should be your new level and you should still be at the gym.
[quote]xCerealKillerx wrote:
I want to get rid of fat. I need to get strong for football coming up but I need to loose this fat.[/quote]
Try to prioritize. Do you want to get strong or lose fat? Just pick one and hit it hard.
If you need to maintain the strength you have and lose some fat, then eat slightly under maintenance and keep at it. Keep track of your caloric intake every day, take some measurements, and track your progress over a couple weeks. Make adjustments (lower cals, change macros) if needed. There are too many variables in play to say eat X amount of calories and do Y amount of cardio. Just experiment and see how your body responds. But, if you have control of your calories and macros, you won’t gain weight by accident, and it doesn’t sound like a fat burner would help you.
I think you asked a reasonable question so I will offer some advice. In terms of a safe and effective addition to your diet that will facillitate lean gains and help in terms of dropping fat I would reccomend Green Tea and Fish Oils. I would agree wit others in that you would be wise to avoid stimulants. In terms of some of my dietary pionters I have posted extensivly on the subject. You may checkout my Alpha thread (introduction) and see if that helps. I am always happy to help a fellow T reader. Best of luck and welcome!
He’s cutting prior to his season. He’s got about a month or 6 weeks until he starts preseason training. This is not, IMHO, enough time for him to drop sufficient weight by diet alone. He needs ‘help’.
Not really ^^^
It’s very possible to preserve muscle and lose BF. Since muscle ways more than fat, if you are losing fat and gaining muscle, you would still be maintaining or gaining weight. If you want to lose fat more than retain muscle, I’d implement 3-4 days a week of HIIT. If you want to retain muscle while not gaining any fat or even losing fat, I’d ditch the HIIT and just do circuit training at the gym that will leave you out of breath.
I honestly think you need to post your exact (average) diet. Once we know this, we can assess your situation a bit better. Although YOU say its good, it probably isn’t if you aren’t making much progress since you seem to be working out, eating well, etc. and should be getting great results, yet you say otherwise.
My average meals for the day is
8am:oatmeal(all natural)
10am:protein shake with lots of fruits and glutamine.
11:gym
1pm: some kids of subway,turky sammich.
3pm: idk, what ever we have at the time thats good.
5pm:same as above
7pm: same as above
9pm: maybe some tuna
ok you dont need a fat burner. Its your diet.
Read the article “Its your diet stupid” on this website.
subway isnt going to make you ripped … and “whatever we have at the time thats good” isnt worth much in our opinion.
If you want help. You need to be specific so we can make specific comments .
Proper diet and exercise best fat burner out there…
[quote]xCerealKillerx wrote:
My average meals for the day is
8am:oatmeal(all natural)
10am:protein shake with lots of fruits and glutamine.
11:gym
1pm: some kids of subway,turky sammich.
3pm: idk, what ever we have at the time thats good.
5pm:same as above
7pm: same as above
9pm: maybe some tuna
[/quote]
The fact that 3 meals of your day are totally ambiguous to you and you have no idea of their calories/carbs (restriction & timing), coupled with the concept that you and wondering why you’re not losing fat is mind boggling.
I live in a family of 5. I cant always just set what food I want all to myself. I think of stuff to eat as its presented to me.
[quote]xCerealKillerx wrote:
I live in a family of 5. I cant always just set what food I want all to myself. I think of stuff to eat as its presented to me.[/quote]
My son is 17 and plays FB. Here’s what we do: keep ham slices, turkey breast, cheese, and so forth in the fridge for him. If something like mashed potatoes or rice is in dinner, he simply skips that and microwaves some ham or similar.
He substitutes a protein for the dishes he knows to avoid. If your folks are cool with that, I think that’s one possible solution.
Also, avoid these for 2 weeks: fruit, potatoes, rice, cereals (even oatmeal), bread, pasta, juice. You’ll drop at least 5 pounds. After 2 weeks, add in SLOWLY some of the above, but a portion should be no bigger than a tennis ball. Those foods make your body store fat. Use whole grain bread, low glycemic fruits like apples and grapefruit. Eat eggs for breakfast. No juices except right after workout.
You should drop at least 10 pounds in a month doing those things. At your age, probably 15 or 20.
^^ Agreed.
You honestly can’t be serious with that diet and expect to lose weight.
Follow up on the post above mine, it’s basically low carb. Once you go on it, you’ll drop 15-20 pounds in NO TIME.
Eggs for breakfast, lean turkey or grilled chicken for lunch with a salad with oil and vinegar. Snack of low fat cottage cheese. Grilled chicken / steak for dinner with broccoli/cauliflower/string beans/anything GREEN on the side and as much as you want.
Scoop of natural PB before bed with some more cottage cheese. If you ain’t got it in your house, buy it. Or else you really aren’t serious about this.
[quote]nycsoccax wrote:
^^ Agreed.
You honestly can’t be serious with that diet and expect to lose weight.
Follow up on the post above mine, it’s basically low carb. Once you go on it, you’ll drop 15-20 pounds in NO TIME.
Eggs for breakfast, lean turkey or grilled chicken for lunch with a salad with oil and vinegar. Snack of low fat cottage cheese. Grilled chicken / steak for dinner with broccoli/cauliflower/string beans/anything GREEN on the side and as much as you want.
Scoop of natural PB before bed with some more cottage cheese. If you ain’t got it in your house, buy it. Or else you really aren’t serious about this.[/quote]
Bump to this. Excellent advice! While I like fat burners, the best ‘pill’ to take would be the one that gets you to eat right.
Whatever you do you need to start now. Furthermore, everyone is right. Your diet IS the issue. Not your lack of a fat burner (though that would help tons). Cook some food, hide it in the freezer and nuke it when you need it. Kill any siblings that touch it. Make sure you have some fibrous veg and protein source handy, ready to be eaten without preparation when you need it. If that means making an extra meal or two in the morning and putting it in an esky for latter then that is what you have to do.
As an example, i bought a cold bag thingy. Which can hold about 3-4 meals worth of food. Every morning, i get a bag of frozen veg, and some precooked meats and put them in lunch boxes and zip lock bags. Then into the bag with 2 cold bricks. They thaw a bit, and can be nuked when i want them.
The only downside is some water in the bottom. Which i drain. I also make a salad, which i add a can of tuna/salmon too later. One protein shake, yoghurt, etc.
If you can do this it might help you hide food from your sibblings, have it with you when you need it, makes it easy to know exactly what your eating, etc. Search for an article here called “the 7 habbits” By John Berardi. Its got some great rules of thumb.
I tried a few products in the past and i would not advise anyone else to buy them. I got some results but I got them through lowering calories and upping my cardio a bit more.
[quote]xCerealKillerx wrote:
I live in a family of 5. I cant always just set what food I want all to myself. I think of stuff to eat as its presented to me.[/quote]
How much you eat is just as important as what you eat. I am from a family of big eaters and there was a time I had the same thought as you do. Take less food or leave some behind at each meal.
At your age and size it is all about your diet. A fat burner is not going to make a huge impact. It could add to your efforts but only slightly. Your money would be better spent on some fish oil.