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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Step 2 - stop mentioning his name. [/quote]
I’m not exactly sure how to take your post so ill just leave it at this:
Saying things like “a certain poster” is no different, please don’t act like it is.
Everyone knows who is being talked about.
I’m saying just stop talking about it in this thread at all.
Go elsewhere for that.[/quote]

Take it like me being a ball buster, just as I took your as being high and mighty. I will also say that I was trying to deter a poster from derailing the thread as well [/quote]
High and mighty?
Come on Matty.
I’ve gotten into it with him as much as anyone but I thought this thread was about turning over a new leaf and moving on?
That’s why I was saying we all move on and stop talking about X like LankyMofo (I think it was him?) suggested.[/quote]

Your right, my bad…Im cranky this morning.

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Step 2 - stop mentioning his name. [/quote]
I’m not exactly sure how to take your post so ill just leave it at this:
Saying things like “a certain poster” is no different, please don’t act like it is.
Everyone knows who is being talked about.
I’m saying just stop talking about it in this thread at all.
Go elsewhere for that.[/quote]

Take it like me being a ball buster, just as I took your as being high and mighty. I will also say that I was trying to deter a poster from derailing the thread as well [/quote]
High and mighty?
Come on Matty.
I’ve gotten into it with him as much as anyone but I thought this thread was about turning over a new leaf and moving on?
That’s why I was saying we all move on and stop talking about X like LankyMofo (I think it was him?) suggested.[/quote]

Your right, my bad…Im cranky this morning.
[/quote]

Me too 3rd straight Haveing to walk in the rain. Fml

[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]poophead wrote:

So are we to assume PX took a break from this place or was asked to take a leave of absence for awhile?[/quote]

Not sure it matters. Let’s just enjoy the result. [/quote]

Is there really a need to be a dick about it?

[/quote]
yes.
PX chased away some of our coolest, most knowledgeable posters. I can go on and on but this is Stu’s thread. stu is the man[/quote]

For the record, I happen to like Prof. X and Stu.

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Step 2 - stop mentioning his name. [/quote]
I’m not exactly sure how to take your post so ill just leave it at this:
Saying things like “a certain poster” is no different, please don’t act like it is.
Everyone knows who is being talked about.
I’m saying just stop talking about it in this thread at all.
Go elsewhere for that.[/quote]

Take it like me being a ball buster, just as I took your as being high and mighty. I will also say that I was trying to deter a poster from derailing the thread as well [/quote]
High and mighty?
Come on Matty.
I’ve gotten into it with him as much as anyone but I thought this thread was about turning over a new leaf and moving on?
That’s why I was saying we all move on and stop talking about X like LankyMofo (I think it was him?) suggested.[/quote]

Your right, my bad…Im cranky this morning.
[/quote]
I think we all are cranky, it’s too early.
I was just suggesting a live and let live mentality.
Turn over a new leaf.
Let the past be the past.
You know, that sorta thing :slight_smile:

[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]poophead wrote:

So are we to assume PX took a break from this place or was asked to take a leave of absence for awhile?[/quote]

Not sure it matters. Let’s just enjoy the result. [/quote]

Is there really a need to be a dick about it?

[/quote]
yes.
PX chased away some of our coolest, most knowledgeable posters.[/quote]

Nope. People have either left of their own accord or been banned. Holding PX responsible for chasing people away is just off-site gossip. If anybody with anything to say has blamed him for leaving then they’re lying about the circumstances.

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]poophead wrote:

So are we to assume PX took a break from this place or was asked to take a leave of absence for awhile?[/quote]

Not sure it matters. Let’s just enjoy the result. [/quote]

Is there really a need to be a dick about it?

[/quote]
yes.
PX chased away some of our coolest, most knowledgeable posters.[/quote]

Nope. People have either left of their own accord or been banned. Holding PX responsible for chasing people away is just off-site gossip. If anybody with anything to say has blamed him for leaving then they’re lying about the circumstances.

[/quote]
fine. we should move on and return this place to the way it was in 2008

[quote]roybot wrote:
Nope. People have either left of their own accord or been banned. Holding PX responsible for chasing people away is just off-site gossip. If anybody with anything to say has blamed him for leaving then they’re lying about the circumstances.
[/quote]

We have lost many quality posters, for whatever reasons they may be. While you can attribute this to anything you want, without jumping and pointing fingers, we all have our own ideas what’s wrong and has brought the quality down in recent years. So instead of harping on why a good number of people have indeed consciously chosen to leave (not the folks who were banned, but others), let’s at least try to remedy the situation.

S

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
Nope. People have either left of their own accord or been banned. Holding PX responsible for chasing people away is just off-site gossip. If anybody with anything to say has blamed him for leaving then they’re lying about the circumstances.
[/quote]

We have lost many quality posters, for whatever reasons they may be. While you can attribute this to anything you want, without jumping and pointing fingers, we all have our own ideas what’s wrong and has brought the quality down in recent years. So instead of harping on why a good number of people have indeed consciously chosen to leave (not the folks who were banned, but others), let’s at least try to remedy the situation.

S[/quote]

OK. But PX is regularly accused of bringing down the reputation of the site for years. That makes no sense to me as a lot of posters were banned for that very reason.

Professor X has been himself for at least as long as I’ve been here, so I don’t see why he gets a name check every time the topic of ways to improve the site comes up. A good start to remedying the situation would be for members not to trash T-Nation on other sites then bring it back here. I guarantee that it happens. Maybe I see it more than others because I don’t post on any other bodybuilding websites.

Even with a shift in attitude he can’t really be blamed for the apparent sudden decline in the quality of discussion, which I don’t really see has been that abrupt. The truly quality posters who made a difference ‘moved on’ when they became competitive. No names need to be mentioned.

It was a loss, but we benefitted from their knowledge and talents for free.

[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]poophead wrote:

So are we to assume PX took a break from this place or was asked to take a leave of absence for awhile?[/quote]

Not sure it matters. Let’s just enjoy the result. [/quote]

Is there really a need to be a dick about it?

[/quote]
yes.
PX chased away some of our coolest, most knowledgeable posters.[/quote]

Nope. People have either left of their own accord or been banned. Holding PX responsible for chasing people away is just off-site gossip. If anybody with anything to say has blamed him for leaving then they’re lying about the circumstances.

[/quote]
fine. we should move on and return this place to the way it was in 2008[/quote]

Before Professor X chased away some of our coolest, most knowledgeable posters who are also highly opinionated, grown men? I’m just asking where this particular rumor originated.

[quote]roybot wrote:
OK. But PX is regularly accused of bringing down the reputation of the site for years. That makes no sense to me as a lot of posters were banned for that very reason.

Professor X has been himself for at least as long as I’ve been here, so I don’t see why he gets a name check every time the topic of ways to improve the site comes up. A good start to remedying the situation would be for members not to trash T-Nation on other sites then bring it back here. I guarantee that it happens. Maybe I see it more than others because I don’t post on any other bodybuilding websites.

Even with a shift in attitude he can’t really be blamed for the apparent sudden decline in the quality of discussion, which I don’t really see has been that abrupt. The truly quality posters who made a difference ‘moved on’ when they became competitive. No names need to be mentioned.

It was a loss, but we benefitted from their knowledge and talents for free. [/quote]

Roy- I’m not going to argue for, or against any current or past members in an open forum. It’s not in good taste. Obviously you have your feelings, and I will defend your right to them. Whether my particular thoughts align with yours or not doesn’t matter. But, I think we can agree that there are certainly enough issues here that the folks at the top have had to acknowledged as much.

Now you or anyone else on here can speculate as to what truly goes on behind closed doors, why certain people are no longer here and others are, who has been of concern for a while and who hasn’t, but at the end of the day, none of you will know for certain if you’re correct in your assertions.

My suggestion? Don’t even bother giving it a second thought. Move beyond the little mess that my simple comment on FB seems to have triggered, and focus instead on creating a positive environment. If a certain poster’s actions trigger a response by the powers that be, then you can look back and try to puzzle together what happened.

S

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
OK. But PX is regularly accused of bringing down the reputation of the site for years. That makes no sense to me as a lot of posters were banned for that very reason.

Professor X has been himself for at least as long as I’ve been here, so I don’t see why he gets a name check every time the topic of ways to improve the site comes up. A good start to remedying the situation would be for members not to trash T-Nation on other sites then bring it back here. I guarantee that it happens. Maybe I see it more than others because I don’t post on any other bodybuilding websites.

Even with a shift in attitude he can’t really be blamed for the apparent sudden decline in the quality of discussion, which I don’t really see has been that abrupt. The truly quality posters who made a difference ‘moved on’ when they became competitive. No names need to be mentioned.

It was a loss, but we benefitted from their knowledge and talents for free. [/quote]

Roy- I’m not going to argue for, or against any current or past members in an open forum. It’s not in good taste. Obviously you have your feelings, and I will defend your right to them. Whether my particular thoughts align with yours or not doesn’t matter. But, I think we can agree that there are certainly enough issues here that the folks at the top have had to acknowledged as much.

Now you or anyone else on here can speculate as to what truly goes on behind closed doors, why certain people are no longer here and others are, who has been of concern for a while and who hasn’t, but at the end of the day, none of you will know for certain if you’re correct in your assertions.

My suggestion? Don’t even bother giving it a second thought. Move beyond the little mess that my simple comment on FB seems to have triggered, and focus instead on creating a positive environment. If a certain poster’s actions trigger a response by the powers that be, then you can look back and try to puzzle together what happened.

S[/quote]

I consider you to be one of the most reasonable posters on any forum and someone who’s well aware of the bigger picture. Let me just say that I have a pretty good handle on why prominent posters have come and gone. I’m also aware of how FB influences discussions on other forums. Certain prominent members have flatly denied that, assuming I was born yesterday.

If those prominent members want to mould the site, they should refrain from troll posts about taking supplements that were not released at that time or pimping ‘all around’ workout routines they don’t use.