I have no chance, this would need me to be able to touch my toes !!
Not really. I was thinking more on the lines of given a certain personality, youād be more inclined to like a certain way of training which in theory should increase adherence to that way of training. More adherence, more likely the program will work.
But anyway, scratch what I said. I remember what he was basing it off of now. He was saying that the amount of neurotransmitters (Dopamine, GABA, etc) will in turn dictate how your body will respond to training variables like low reps high reps etcā¦though neurotransmitters are linked to mood disorders, thereās just too many āin theory shouldā¦ā steps to get from neurotransmitters to response to training. Too many loopholes from step 1 where you assume that given X personality = more of Neurotransmitter Y.
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While Iām not in a position to give any training adviceā¦ Iām going too 
It canāt just be about strength. Body shape and technique have got to play a part in this. Iām 6ā and 215 pounds of lard and I can doing standing ab roll outs. I donāt have a particularly strong core.
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You could break it down to āIf you train the way you like to train, youāre more likely to stick to the program and therefore profit better from itā
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Ahh ther, better choice of words!
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Not if the way you like to train is not effective
Maybe not, but if I didnāt like to train effective, then I would skip sessions, do them half assed, and eventually not train. If I trained in a not so perfect way but ended up in the gym consistently that would yield better results.
Take our boy pwn here, if he was told to do a perfect bodybuilder program hitting each muscles one muscle a day from different angles, training 6 days a week in 2,5 hour long sessions, Iām pretty sure he wouldnāt last very long.
My take is that doing a program you like to do gives better results than doing something you donāt like to do. If you said that you want to be strong in the big 3 and only trained bw exercises then you wouldnāt be strong in the big three then itās a bad judgement of how to reach a goal.
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Not sure I agree. There are plenty of people who spend years in the gym following bad programs that they like and they donāt really progress at all. I think Iām splitting hairs with you here anyways.
Some good convos here.
@kleinhound I built up to it. I think I was doing like sets of 20 on the knees before I attempted standing. When I do a standing ab wheel, I donāt go stupid far with it like I see some folks where Iām totally stretched out like a horizontal overhead press, mainly because, with my buggy shoulder, I think Iād manage 1 rep and never come back up again. But I go far enough that I get a deep contraction in my abs.
You could ROM progress it. Find a spot away from a wall, run into it and come back, then stand further and further away from the wall until youāre at your max ROM. Or just go for it one day and see what happens, haha.
@whang Iām sure there is science to the neurotype thing (although, as you identified, itās a stretch), it just seems like unnecesssary science. It would be like if I said āIāve discovered the exact amount of a certain hormone that determines if one is hungry. All I need to do is take a sample of your blood and run it through my machine, and then I can tell you if youāre hungry or notā and I respond with āCouldnāt I just feel hungry and know that it means Iām hungry?ā
@simo74 and @mortdk I feel like the crux of mortdkās statement is that, if one is uninclined to follow A training program, they wonāt train at all, and that not training will always be less effective than training. There are certainly ineffective ways to train, but those people you see spending years not getting results because of ineffective training programs would get just as bad (if not worse) results on a better program, because those same people simply wouldnāt do the better program.
Iāve become a meme for Deep Water, but the truth is, about 98% of the time I prescribe that program because I know the person asking for a program isnāt actually going to do what anyone suggests they do. Rather than me spending time, effort and energy trying to sus out what would be perfect for that individual, I give them A program so they can just go NOT do that one.
In the off-chance they actually follow through, itāll work, but Iāve been burned by enough people that I try to help that itās just not worth it.
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This seems to be the sad truth for many of the experienced lifters on this site. I think it is a sign of the times.
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You nailed it. CT has taken it much further and you can take a test that tells you which neurochemicals (I think thatās it?) are high, low, etc. Based on those results, he can guide you towards a training program that suits you.
Itās not rocket surgery, but it definitely appeals to this generationās pursuit of the holy grail - the optimal program.
Essentially itās something any experience trainer should accomplish on their own.
- Three full body sessions a week buries me (Okay, donāt do that)
- Doing heavy lifting for more than four weeks buries me (Okay, donāt do that)
- Bro splits are fun and I can train for 12 weeks without feeling fatigued (great, keep that)
- I get results from 5/3/1, but I hate it
And the list of examples can go on and on. I prefer to do things that I mostly like; it helps me stick to the program and apply the right effort. I also know what suits my body through trial and error and injuries/pain. CT has simply created a method for people to try to identify what they might like and achieve results without the years of trial and error.
Heās also given it a name and created a certification and pumps out programs for each neurotype. Itās brilliant business, but as @T3hPwnisher said, it doesnāt appeal to most of us.
I donāt knock him one bit. I think the training market is horribly saturated, but the average Joe doesnāt seem to care about filtering through the lame trainers to find the good. And how do you make yourself stand out? Unless you do something different and edgy, you donāt.
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I think most of us believe that if you work hard, even on a bad program, then youāll see results. I know that I was probably holding back on 5/3/1 after a bit because I loathed the PR sets on squats and deads. Iām looking at my log book and seeing that I only need to do X weight 17 times to beat last weeks performance. I hated that, and it probably had an effect on my effort and focus. If I was able to hit my reps, I definitely bailed as soon as I got there instead of pushing further.
But look at my performance on SGSS. I loved that program and there was no holding back.
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Your points bring to mind Dave Tateās answer in one podcast. He was asked something like what he thought about young lifters doing āstupidā things in the gym. He said something to the effect of leave them alone, theyāre figuring shit out for themselves - which totally has value
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I always treat the PR sets a little differently. When I encounter a particular weight on a particular lift, Iād shoot to beat my previous performance in that particular combo rather than worrying about the estimated rep max.
Running 5/3/1 with PR sets for two or three cycles didnāt present that opportunity much. 
I tried 5/3/1 more than that, but I tried some of the other approaches. I still think my favorite was Training Maximally.
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Makes sense! Iāll give the olā wall ROM a go. Cheers fella
@kleinhound Hope it works out dude!
PM WORKOUT
MAX EFFORT (6) Mat Pulls
5x135
5x225
3x315
1x405
1x495
1x585
1x660 (+5lb PR, 300kg for you metric types)
1x675 (+15lb PR, lifetime max held in hands for a barbell)
GIANT SETS (dead-hyper-squat)
(3) Axle deficit deadlifts 333
3x10
Reverse hyper 330
3x10
Buffalo bar squats 205
3x10
Notes: 3:45 between max effort pulls, 2:00 between giant sets. This was a fantastic day for max effort work. I, once again, broke my own rule and went for an even bigger PR after hitting a little one, but this time it was the right call. This was ABSOLUTELY a max effort pull. RPE 11. I am incredibly proud of how well I fought for that rep, because Iāve hit that sticking point MANY times in the past and have not gotten past it. I hit the pull, get it to just below the knee cap, fight for a bit and fail. This time, got it there, fought, found a way to regroup, and felt it start making movement in the right direction again. The lockout looks pretty silly, but I wanted zero doubt once I got it there. Couldnāt be more satisfied.
The giant sets are definitely starting to show on my fatigue levels. Iām taking a knee on those pulls, but Iām still getting them done. I think this has been a great approach toward getting strong all over.
Iām very satisfied with where my training is. Only negative there is that Iād love to get back to Deep Water soon, but right now this has just been too good.
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Great 675 pull.
Thanks dude!
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You really are a strong fker mate. Quality