Yes. If Im at a 9 (10 being best) now when my free T was higher I was at a 7.
Damn, thatās in terms of both libido and motivation/general well-being? Iāve found the two are really closely correlated for me. When my libido is roaring, I walk around with a crazy level of confidence, and the inverse is also true.
So Im going to say that libido was at a 9 then and now an 8. But that works better for me 
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Also a good thing for me. Now I can have the wife walk by me and not get a hard on. I was getting a little over the top when I was on cream lol.
Yes me too. Well we went from once a month (pre TRT but she had issues too), to a few times a week not optimized, to a few times a day (high FT) along with jacking, and now settled somewhere between 3-7 times a week (optimized). Its much more sustainable and I can get other stuff done LOL Weekends can still be very active like Friday night, Saturday morning, Saturday night, Sunday morning type but I can prioritize sleep and gym during the weekā¦most of the time. Some week nights we have to sneak off before the kids are in bed. And its not always me. She has made some changes in her life and her libido has ramped up too.
Man, thatās amazing! 3-7 times a week sounds absolutely perfect. Right now weāre at 1-2. Thatās better than pre-TRT (maybe once every 2 weeks) but at my highest FT it was like 6 times a week. She could be having issues too, she hasnāt looked into HOT but her libido seems hot and cold as well.
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Thatās what really sucks on my end, the wifeās libido sucks. So when Iām at a 10 and she is no where near that, its hard as I am just walking around with a hard on wanting relief lol. I wish she would look into at least checking things out she out but sheās not really interested. She still believes HRT still causes cancer and what not, so even she found an issue she wouldnāt want to fix it.
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For my wife it was a combination of low iron and low self esteem. She got out of her slump by going back to work and also got more consistent with her iron supplementation. I honestly thought it was a hormonal thing and she insisted it was her need to find meaning in her life outside of being a mom/wife. Well she was right. Two weeks after she went back to work she did a full 180.
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Yes, in relation to T, your E2 is still relatively low. Now inversely, that could also be taken as your T is still too high, see what I mean?
You could try titrating your dose down a little more to bring that ratio more into line. If youāre taking any kind of AI, maybe drop that and see where it goes.
You are fairly lean, so you donāt have as much area for aromatase. The best bet for you to test the ratio theory for yourself would probably be to drop the T dose a bit.
She was on t3 and I was hoping that would bring her up some. Her doctor, nice guy and all, but to me is a fucking idiot. When it was time to take labs to see where she was at, only checked tsh and free t4. On top of that sent it to a local lab versus labcorp (only them and quest is what insurance will cover) after being told not to send it anywhere else, and ended up with a $300+ bill versus $30. So with all that and her already not wanting to be on it she said fuck it and stopped taking it after she felt diminishing effects. She says she actually feels better than prior so 
. I had high hopes but they were crushed.
It sounds horrible but I honestly think my kids are causing too much stress for her. My daughter has been real difficult lately. Hopefully now that school is started and my youngest is in kindergarten and she gets some time alone to decompress when she isnāt working will help.
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That makes sense and is what Iām planning to do, for sure. What do you think about the Danazol? Iām not sure if I should keep taking it 7X a week or more like 4-5. Thinking increasing SHBG slightly (so itās closer to E, which should be dropping) could be a good thing. I felt my best when they were close to the same.
Not horrible at all. Kids cause stress. My 3 just went back to school today so between that schedule change (3 diff bus times) and with my wife back to work she has been a stress case the last few weeks. Weāve actually only had sex 3 times in the last 14 days, which I know isnt that bad, but its a big down swing for us. Not once over this past weekend but she was stressed to the max with migraines and everything.
Sorry brother, I have zero experience with Danazol. I couldnāt answer that one.
@rise80 Stress and life circumstances play such a big role in libido, especially for women IMO
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I want to relieve mine through getting laid though. Why canāt women be more like that haha.
Very true though and my wife is a type A personality so it definitely affects her.
Yeah dude. Agree. Once she went back to work this past summer she became a different person.
But if their heads are not there then no one is REALLY having fun.
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No and I wouldnāt want it that way. That was a bad joke.
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@traveling-man would love to know what you think about this
I will say this, but keep in mind Iām not a doc or an expert.
If it were me, I would drop everything but T and a DHEA supplement, and get that dialed in to where my ratios were in line and I felt my best.
Too many compounds with any protocol makes for a very hard dial in, and you never really know what compound is causing what.
Itās possible that the Danazol is artificially increasing T, and you have little aromatase to work with. This could be the whole reason the ratios are off in the first place.
I know that you used it to lower SHBG, but T will do that for you as well over time.
Just food for thought.
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