I would love to see that chart or paper. Would also like to see one for 5 alpha reductase. Been something I’ve been trying to quantify.
I’m 42, and my blasts are usually pretty mild in comparison to others. But yeah, I’ve got a couple left in me, I think. Lately I have been pretty burned out from the gym, like zero desire to lift for the past month or so. Instead of forcing it, I’m taking as much time off as my head needs before going back. But when that time comes I will want to catch up some of the muscle loss, I’m sure. I’ll do a blast for that
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Happens to all of us, man…that drive will come back
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Telehealth consult with MHB wrapped up.
The gist: keep on doing what I’m doing.
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that my doc had no familiarity with P5P, but wish he did so we could talk about it.
He also hadn’t heard of L-carnitine (wanted to discuss the effects on androgen receptor density)…I’ve wondered if I should try it out.
new studies says better to have high prolactin then lower for sexual function
@bkb333 thwt P5P came in yesterday and I ate one. Had sexy time and couldn’t ever finish 
curious to see if it’s a one time fluke or what. I’ll be out of town this weekend so won’t get to experiment till Monday.
Will report back with my findings lol
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Wow, wouldn’t have expected that. Doesn’t seem to be the case for me. But neither high nor low has been ideal - medium has been best. I’m n=1 obviously but think a bunch of other guys feel better when it’s lower (or medium)
I’m definitely lasting longer too bro
Haven’t noticed effects wearing off but I’m still tempted to try 100 I’ve felt SO much better since adding P5P, it’s been like when I first started exogenous T - dat honeymoon period doh
It’s a bad thing for me lol. I could already last as long as I wanted.
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Same. I have also experienced not being able to finish. My wife gets insecure if I can’t finish, so it is a big deal.
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Glad it’s working for you. Do it up, try 100mg and see if the effects keep going.
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Glad I haven’t had that issue…I can always get there, but sometimes takes a while. I get why she’d feel insecure, for sure. You might already do this, but I recommend avoiding masturbation…makes finishing during sex more likely IMO.
I avoid it, but my libido is higher than my wife’s, so eventually I do. I haven’t had the issue for a little while now.
Actually when I had the issue is when I started Finasteride. When I started that, my libido went through the roof. I was masturbating at least 3X a day when I first started it. I thought the Finasteride directly gave me the issue of not finishing, but I think it was indirectly through higher libido → more wanking. I stopped taking it, then libido went down and wanking went down, and no issues. Then I thought about it a bit and figured the masturbation might be the issue. So I went back on Finasteride, but tried to control myself more, and no issues since. Now libido has stabilized to right about where it was pre Finasteride, and I still try to limit myself, and haven’t had any issues.
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I want to say someone posted it in a FB group, but I’ve been searching all over to try and find it agian
Does it ever make you little foggy and groggy?
You are the man! That is not the exact one I remember seeing, but it also shows the idea
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I ordered some p5p it worth a try and what I remember my doctor did say I had high prolactin levels on some old lab works. But I didnt have any tumor its checked. And If I orgasm it take around 3-4 days to get some what a libido again so that feels like a prolactin problem or does really androgen receptor density in brain boost after only 3-4 days?. Well could be low dopamin to. But anyway I have high shbg to with high total t that is the main problem I guess :/.
Really valuable information here, that I’ve got a few takeaways from.
Dosing an ai during a cycle shouldn’t be done in a linear fashion. A guy that used .5 mg adex on 200 mg of testosterone, shouldn’t need 2 mg of adex with 800 mg. More like 1 mg. With 5 alpha reductase inhibitors this doesn’t really work, because the dose response doesn’t work like an ai does (0.25 mg of fin reduces DHT almost as much as 5 mg).
Low dose cycle of testosterone (350 mg ish) may result in almost the same androgenic sides compared to a high dose cycle. If those are a concern, using more for less time might be advantageous.
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