Do you think it matters when you take P5P? Most guys seem to take it AM. Would PM affect sleep?
I always figured it was best to take it in the AM. If higher DA means more focus and energy I donāt want that at bedtime
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I think that is a good path forward. Maybe try in a week with the same dose if the effect goes away after 3-4 days?
You could try P5P instead, and see if that does enough for you? It is self limiting, you canāt lower PRL too much with it. I might go that route before the caber.
Yea o think it would have made sense to start with that, but I had caber and thought āwhat the hellā. Iāve put way worse in my body 
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I think you can still use P5P though. It is likely going to help since caber helped. I think you could just start that in a few days if you wanted to without having to worry about crashing PRL.
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What do you think is a good P5P dose to start? Took 50 this AM but wondering if thatās too low to notice anything
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I havenāt actually tried P5P. My recommendation just comes from reading what others have recorded about their experiences. It seems many are able to get by with it while using 19-nor AAS, so I think for a guy on TRT, it is likely to be enough. Caber seems like overkill.
From what I have read, 50-100 seems like a good dose (guys on cycle with 19 nors use higher doses sometimes, like 300 mg). P5P shouldnāt be able to crash PRL like Caber can, it is self limiting. Maybe stick to that dose until you get blood work done and see the impact it has for you. If you need more, it seems the 100 mg caps are about the same price as the 50 mg caps for the same quantity.
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You da man
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Took 50 mg P5P this AM and already noticing effectsā¦not libido related but like @dextermorgan has said, similar to having a ton of caffeine
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Interesting. My female companion came over again last night and most of what I noticed initially wasnāt there. I was hopeful and excited. Granted, still some benefits but nothing like that first night I took the caber
Yeah that tracks, I have 3 days on 100mg and feeling anxiety and sleep issues last few days. Libido maybe take a day or two to respond? I have labs in 4 weeks so thinking about stopping all P5P and see what PRL sits at on its own.
Interesting - and none of that on 50? Definitely share your labs when you get āem
Day 2 on P5P (50 mg in AM)ā¦same deal as yesterday.
More dopamine, it seems, as I have plenty of energy and feel pretty good (definitely in a different headspace) ā but no libido effects so far.
Are you controlling e2 at all during this process?
I am day 3 on 100mg and had trouble sleeping, up very early and some anxiety. I havenāt changed anything else, so it has to be that. No extra libido either
Iām not ā you mean through an AI? Havenāt taken one in years. Are you?
So it sounds like 50 mg is better dose for you, eh?
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I was on .25mg weekly while on 200mg test weekly, but my labs came back with TT 1800ng e2 108pg, so Iāve lowered my dose back down to 120mg, but am experiencing a ton of high e2 issues (coupled with the P5P) so I took .5mg Anastrozole today, I should hopefully feel better in a day or two.
Appears so, lol. Iām curious how you do at the 3-5 day mark
Libido has definitely picked up! Had sex 2X yesterday (Day 2), which almost never happens.
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Itās wild how quick it starts working. Iām curious if we could take it every other day and still get the benefits? Or twice a week?
Hmm, hypothetically, I bet less frequent dosing would work. Weād probably need data on the half-life and E2 timing. But it seems like 50 was working well for you and didnāt have side effects, right?
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