Realistic TRT Recomp Progress

I’m just curios, what is causing your guys’ low testosterone levels?
I have seen a lot of ppl on this forum in their 20s complaining about low testosterone, which seems to be very rare?

I think mine was drugs and alcohol all through my puberty years combined with multiple head injuries.

Who knows really

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When did you discover you had low T (age) and what was the free/total test level?

I think 26 is when I first got tested. My total was always under 300 first thing in the morning when tested. Got tested a few times before prescribed. Not sure about free

Huh interesting. Did you have any telltale symptoms (anything at all)?

Of course lol but I still have basically all those symptoms. TRT wasn’t a magic pill for me like so many claim it is. I only continue with it because I believe it’s healthier than where I was and because I’m a meat head. I want the juice.

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Any symptoms in specific that really bothered you? I assume you were still lifting back then but not makin any gains?

I don’t feel like typing it all out. Short answer is keep working out with that those smart people in your journal have put together and if after following that for a solid year you don’t see progress then go down that route lol

Just to clarify, I doubt I have any issues with test (literally zero symptoms) I have high energy, sex drive, no hair/beard issues.
I was just curios if it did really impact your results a lot or something

It’s not a magic bullet, like @wanna_be said, and often takes a LONG time to dial in a good protocol that makes you feel good and won’t trash your health. Hell, I’m still figuring it out.

The biggest plus I get from TRT now is drive. I’m super motivated and could work, train, etc. all day. I have much more energy than the average 30-year-old with a busy career and family life.

I’m not sure what caused my issue - I think it’s largely genetic, maybe exacerbated by stress, keto dieting, and over training. If you wanna hear more of my backstory, it’s at the start of this thread.

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It’s a huge (and complex - i dont know a lot of the stuff) thread but I took a look back and saw your pre treatment Test was slightly below 200.

I couldn’t see anywhere if you faced any symptoms, were you struggling to make progress in the gym? What were your lifts like before? I do see you made some crazy good gains sometime in compared to the first ever pic.

Are you assuming the only symptoms are lack of gains?

I see a lot of guys that only think of TRT as an easy way to bust past a plateau in the gym, when the benefits are far beyond that and likely don’t matter for many guys on TRT

I know there are a lot more symptoms. I was mainly curios how it impacted gym performance/results,

I wasn’t making great progress in the gym. T has helped a bit with gains, but the difference hasn’t been dramatic. I don’t track strength or aesthetics very closely. I’m now more focused on performance (mobility, athleticism, energy, etc) and mental health.

I got on T for quality of life and for my marriage. I had low libido and low energy (I’d get super sleepy in the afternoon). The latter problem has been fixed. The former is not.

My TT was always high (1989 before starting TRT) but I got on because SHBG was so high (only could get it down to 110 before getting on T).

Know there’s a ton of individual variance, but anyone aware of a general “ideal” threshold of caffeine WRT longevity? I’d guess it’s no more than 300 mg. I do like it for its performance benefits though.

What does WRT stand for?

With regard to

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Book recommendation:

Behave - Robert Sapolsky

I feel my brain expanding with every word.

2 weeks back on Danazol (@ 25 mg EOD), I’ve clearly noticed an uptick in libido.

This intrigued me as my libido sucks and I’d try anything :joy: are you on it specifically for libido? A quick Google shows it’s used for other things and doesn’t mention libido that I see.