I just had a conversation with my source at option 2 – I had friends working for all of these places – and he told me they had a lot of infighting over the offer to me. I was way younger than their other finalists, and the guy at the top of their committee (oldest guy) wanted to go for someone more experienced. The other people on the panel, though, were strongly behind me. On paper, I wasn’t as qualified…but in the interviews, I crushed.
So these other people outnumbered him. But then I negotiated aggressively (talked them up by $20K) and they were constantly flip-flopping. While I couldn’t make my mind up, neither could they.
Pretty crazy how life works, man. Sometimes it all seems so random how we end up in one place over another. Many decisions in our lives easily could have gone another way, and our lives would look completely different.
It’s very true. I look remarkably better than I did several years ago and it’s amazing how much differently I’m treated. Not only at work either. When I go out I have woman walk up to me and start conversations and guys treat you differently as well. When you have been out of shape for years and make a big change you can really see the difference in quality of life that attractive people have over unattractive people. I really regret allowing myself to ever get to that point but happy I took steps to change it.
If you didn’t, though, you wouldn’t know what you know now. It’s like you have a superpower – you can empathize, but you also get the natural advantages afforded by good looks.
For example, my wife has always been beautiful (a model early in life), and she doesn’t even realize she’s treated differently. I notice it all the time. Doors magically open for beautiful people – jobs, friendships, etc. For those of us who had rough years in terms of appearance, we can see the night-and-day difference. It’s pretty unfair, but that’s life!
Definitely seems that way. I was trying to gauge on the call whether there’s any wiggle room – for example, could they look into their backup plan while I explore option 3, just buy us both some time to think more about it? But it doesn’t seem that way. I gave them my word, and I’m going to follow through on that. The reality is that I know I’ll give them more value than anyone else they would hire.
All of my big decisions in life before this – who to marry, what job to take, etc – have been clear as day. This one was totally grey. That’s why I’ve struggled so much with it.
Interview went really well. The timing was weird. I literally was at a customer today that is the biggest account I would have at the new place, so that looked really good.
We’ll see. $30K pay bump and more autonomy if it works out.
Sorry to thread hijack but this has turned into the new jobs thread lately, haha
Have another tomorrow that I was more interested in but now I’m leaning towards this one instead as it’s more account management and less beating on doors
Most are bad at both and maintaining a relationship is an art that not all can be taught so that makes you a very important person. My brother is very successful in insurance and hates calling. He teamed up with a buddy from work and hired this lady that does all the calling for them and is very skilled at it. Their call-to-meeting ratio has greatly increased and now he just looks at his schedule and sees what meetings he’s attending that day. Maybe an idea you could use at some point.
Here’s an oversimplified scenario:
You have a doctor that uses a well known brand/product for 20+ years, is comfortable using it and the complication rate is fairly low. The brand provides 70% of all the hospitals products and gives them quite a bit of free shit. You work for a smaller newer company that has revolutionary products that are far superior and will provide the patient with better healing, less chance of having to remove the implant down the road, better range of movement, etc. Some of the issues you face are convincing the doctor & support staff to get out of their comfort zone & take the time to learn how to use the new product, convince them its better and that it’s worth the higher expense to the hospital. You have to convince the hospital to even allow the doctor to use it. Even with a great product you believe in that you have undeniable proof it’s superior it still takes a lot of skill to be successful selling it. I would argue sales is one of the hardest careers to be extremely successful in. There’s just so many variables against you.
You’re right, definitely still takes a lot of emotional intelligence – was just drawing on my own experience, but wouldn’t be the same thing for everyone. Should’ve said it’s much easier if you believe in the product.
I’m stocked with a bunch of medications I never plan to use (Anastrozole, Metformin, Danazol, etc) – anyone know of a good use for this stuff? I paid for it upfront, but now it’s just sitting around.
It’s funny how so many people get worked up about coronavirus (which almost definitely will not kill them) and don’t give a damn about all the things they do on a daily basis (eating like shit, being sedentary, etc.) that almost definitely, compounded over time, will lead to premature death.
If people could only come face-to-face with the downstream implications of their behaviors…
