1st I wanted to gain some weight au naturel, as I was afraid of hitting a bone, should I try to inject in my thigh. Now I feel ready and am planning to run deca 50mg/EW and Win 20mg/ED
Here is what I have to start with:
Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Hope you are well now both physically and mentally.
I can’t comment on the viability of a woman using Deca in the amount you indicated as I have no experience with that. I am not sure what the concentration of typical Deca is, but let’s assume it is 200mg/ml. That would mean a weekly injection of 0.25ml (=50mg). For that small of an injection, you could use a 50cc insulin syringe (half full).
That type of syringe has a non-removable half inch 29 gauge needle built in. That makes for very painless injections. You can use the same syringe to draw and inject. BBB uses top of Quad (while sitting down) and I started using that too. It works well. Delts would be OK too, but more difficult to aspirate since you can only use one hand. Ventro glutes and glutes require a longer pin which means a 1 ml barrell to go with the longer pin. 1" should be sufficient for you in those sites.
This is the technical side of it, as for the safety aspect - I’ll let others with more knowledge weigh in.
Best…
what was your last cycle?
Injectable win is very painful just so you are ready for it.
I’m taking win tabs,spaced into 2 10mg doses, 8 hrs apart, I don’t fancy shooting up every day.
My 1st cycle was Var 10-15mgED over 4 wks. I planned to go 6 wks, but got ripped off with the aamount I ordered.
I made some impressive strength gains on this cycle, the only sides being a slight reduction in appetite and 1 missed period.
After several wks off, I ran the pro-hormone BOLD 200 for 8 wks and was less than impressed by the results. I’d go as far as to say that it did bugger-all, but make me hungry.
What I’m wanting from this new cycle is to gain as much lean mass as possible. I have been following Christian Thinbadeau’s variation of the Anabolic Diet Refined Physique Transformation and experimenting with calorie levels. With the anti-anxiety meds I am on, I can’t eat the way I used to. (3’500 on the Anabolic Diet before I started to gain, which is somewhat freaky for a 5’8, 118lb female.) I am also doing Stronglifts 5x5.
Well, (keeping in mind I have very little knowledge about females and AAS) I would be slightly concerned about the long ester of the nandrolone. If something goes wrong, the compound is in your system for some time…
Have you looked into Nandrolone PhenylProp just to establish what type of response you have to the nandrolone?
Any reason why you arent looking into the var again?
Var is very expensive and I have read good things about win from other women. I had planned to run it with primo rather than deca, but the problem was availabilty. Now my problem is finance, as I have had a long time off work, with the PTSD. If deca disagrees with me, I will run the win alone. From what I have read, deca has a half-life of 6-15 days.
I’ll be keeping my eye on this one. Usually, under normal social norms, women and steroids don’t mix. But hey, we aren’t the norm!
I have heard of deca being ran around 50mg a week and 3x 50mg boldenone(ganabol) too - but may be misled…
Its tough you coming here - Bill Roberts may be able to help.
JJ
woah this is a first. I’ll be checking in on this. This could turn out to be very informative.
I would highly recommend starting out with NPP over Deca so that if you need to pull the plug on your dose fast you can. If you are going with Deca I would recommend starting with shots 2x/w of 25mg to keep levels a little more stable and low as possible.
Winny should be ok for a woman but I would start at a lower dose than 20mg/d and work up to tolerance.
Also, I would think it a good idea to find your tolerance for one and then add the other. If you start them both at the same time how do you know which is giving you the problem?
If I were you I would start the NPP and run it a few weeks to make sure there were no isses and then add the Win increasing slowly from 5mg/d.
Did anybody sound the rams horn to summon Bill Roberts?
I think FuriousGeorge did a pretty good job.
[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
I would highly recommend starting out with NPP over Deca so that if you need to pull the plug on your dose fast you can. If you are going with Deca I would recommend starting with shots 2x/w of 25mg to keep levels a little more stable and low as possible.[/quote]
If NPP do 3 shots of 20mg Or semantically 3x 16.6mg? just as furious (he aint furious!!) mentioned, for stable levels.[quote]
Winny should be ok for a woman but I would start at a lower dose than 20mg/d and work up to tolerance.[/quote]
I do know that most women experience high androgenic effects from winny - higher than var - i BELIEVE our friend waif tried winny and learnt the same.[quote]
Also, I would think it a good idea to find your tolerance for one and then add the other. If you start them both at the same time how do you know which is giving you the problem?[/quote]
Agree with men and women[quote]
If I were you I would start the NPP and run it a few weeks to make sure there were no isses and then add the Win increasing slowly from 5mg/d.[/quote]
Nandrolone is a mass drug for men and women, adding winstrol will likely add more sides than gains IMLO. If you want email me at brook_joe@hotmail.com.[quote]
I believe that talking AAS for women here:
is ok… ask first… but is is a forum (on this site) for competing females… fitness and BB
JJ
OK, I decided to listen to advice and run the win alone 20mgED for 6 wks (will save the deca for my next cycle and possibly run it with var.) So far, I have had a breakout on my face, but got myself some ProActiv and cleared it in 2 days. I have added 2Kg to my shoulder press and can see a difference already in my upper body. Will post more pics at the end of the cycle.
Going from 10-15 mg of Anavar per day to 27mg per day total androgens is a pretty big jump.
Winstrol will also most likely give more side effects mg per mg compared to Anavar. I’d suggest sticking to what you had before and run it longer, unless you don’t mind the virilizing side effects!
Or if you’d like to try something else other than Anavar, maybe just the Deca (nandrolone decanoate) alone but run it very low at the beginning. Use frequent injections to prevent high blood concentrations… preferably using the NPP (nandrolone phenylpropionate) ester instead, to get in and out quickly if side effects arise.
That’s the advantages of shorter acting orals over long acting injections for women. You can get out in a hurry if problems arise.
Edit: I see you’ve already started. Just don’t do anything you’ll regret in the future. You can’t reverse permanent side effects!
please keep us informed. we don’t have enough input from girls on here. they usually drop in breifly to get help on their cycle plan and then dissapear. post a log or at least a summary and I am sure you will be helping a lot of other women who are looking to gear and helping to educate some of the dudes as well.
best of luck waif
