Good God, you have to quote a celebrity to validate your point of view? Riiiiight… Bas Rutten isn’t a bodybuilder. The rules are different for him.
[quote]andruw_doucette wrote:
I’m not unimpressed with your physique. You are a bit bigger than me and I assume stronger[/quote]
Then, frankly, I see no reason why the OP needs your advice.
Well, excuse me, but fuck you. Who are you to say that the OP doesn’t “lay it on the line” whenever he goes to the gym? Who are you to criticize the diet that you don’t know, because it wasn’t posted? Regarding relying on your balls to show you the T, that’s your decision. That’s your point of view, it’s neither right nor wrong, it’s just “what you did.” Props to you for making a decision for which you feel strongly.
Oh, and legal automatically means moral? I call red herring. Again, you have no place telling complete strangers that you work more than they do. You don’t know that.
Boo hoo. I’m sure he was out to impress you alone in the first place.
You my friend break federal law when you use “gear” and also make gains faster with less work than natural guys. In my eyes you don’t deserve what you’ve gained, period.
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Federal law? One man telling anther what he can or can not do with his own body…
I am gear free but use it if your so inclined (stupid) but go for it…
[quote]Mr. Clean & Jerk wrote:
Good God, you have to quote a celebrity to validate your point of view? Riiiiight… Bas Rutten isn’t a bodybuilder. The rules are different for him.
andruw_doucette wrote:
I’m not unimpressed with your physique. You are a bit bigger than me and I assume stronger
Then, frankly, I see no reason why the OP needs your advice.
I lay it on the line every time I go to the gym. I have to use proper nutrition and rely on my body’s natural testosterone.
Well, excuse me, but fuck you. Who are you to say that the OP doesn’t “lay it on the line” whenever he goes to the gym? Who are you to criticize the diet that you don’t know, because it wasn’t posted? Regarding relying on your balls to show you the T, that’s your decision. That’s your point of view, it’s neither right nor wrong, it’s just “what you did.” Props to you for making a decision for which you feel strongly.
You my friend break federal law when you use “gear” and also make gains faster with less work than natural guys.
Oh, and legal automatically means moral? I call red herring. Again, you have no place telling complete strangers that you work more than they do. You don’t know that.
In my eyes you don’t deserve what you’ve gained, period.
Boo hoo. I’m sure he was out to impress you alone in the first place.[/quote]
Once again good post Mr. Clean. I’m sure duhust is all broken up right because little andruw isn’t impressed. Right!
i disagree with you and Bas Rutten. You cannot buy muscle. you can buy gear, but without extensive work in the gym and a correlating diet you cannot achieve muscle mass. So as unimpressed as you are with my physique, i am equally unimpressed with you reasoning. good day.
I’m not unimpressed with your physique. You are a bit bigger than me and I assume stronger But… I lay it on the line every time I go to the gym. I have to use proper nutrition and rely on my body’s natural testosterone. You my friend break federal law when you use “gear” and also make gains faster with less work than natural guys. In my eyes you don’t deserve what you’ve gained, period.
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oh and buddy, this was posted after my FIRST CYCLE. i have a rate my physique right before i did it…and also looked better than you. as far as you thinking you work harder than me, i am a personal trainer and gym attendant.
i have seen millions of people work out and collected an array of hardcore workouts from gym patrons and people from T-Nation. my nutrition is pinpoint…i eat a digestable portion every hour and a half. And as far as breaking the federal law…thats reason enough to do steroids. i hate the ‘fed gov’ trying to dictate what i do.
lol your trying to sound elitist now, your size gains have not been that huge for a first cycle you honestly did a re rate too fast I would have waited a few months maybe a year to actually see a big difference. Your on the right track but don’t get cocky you have a LONG ways to go. Keep it up though.
To the people giving him shit about his use should stfu.
[quote]Mr. Clean & Jerk wrote:
Good God, you have to quote a celebrity to validate your point of view? Riiiiight… Bas Rutten isn’t a bodybuilder. The rules are different for him.
Then, frankly, I see no reason why the OP needs your advice.
Well, excuse me, but fuck you. Who are you to say that the OP doesn’t “lay it on the line” whenever he goes to the gym? Who are you to criticize the diet that you don’t know, because it wasn’t posted? Regarding relying on your balls to show you the T, that’s your decision. That’s your point of view, it’s neither right nor wrong, it’s just “what you did.”
Oh, and legal automatically means moral? I call red herring. Again, you have no place telling complete strangers that you work more than they do. You don’t know that.
Boo hoo. I’m sure he was out to impress you alone in the first place.[/quote]
I don’t need a celebrity to “validate” a point of view. ITS called a quote and I agree with him. You stated the “rules” are different for him. How so? Because he isn’t steroid tested you mean?
I’m sure the OP’s diet is just great and what he chooses to do morally is his buisness, but this is rate my physique and people give their opinions and I have read your opinions countless times and while generally they provide a good read you really didnt get my point.
You OBVIOSLY agree with steroid use. I don’t, we differ in opinion and I have equal right to give mine. “Boo Hoo I’m sure he was out to impress you alone in the first place.” ??? <-------
[quote]duhast234 wrote:
oh and buddy, this was posted after my FIRST CYCLE. i have a rate my physique right before i did it…and also looked better than you. as far as you thinking you work harder than me, i am a personal trainer and gym attendant.
i have seen millions of people work out and collected an array of hardcore workouts from gym patrons and people from T-Nation. my nutrition is pinpoint…i eat a digestable portion every hour and a half. And as far as breaking the federal law…thats reason enough to do steroids. i hate the ‘fed gov’ trying to dictate what i do.
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Dude you haven’t even looked at my physique before, I’ve been working out maybe 2 yrs seriously and I’d say you are bit bigger than me in your first post, and by that I mean a bit. (I know that means nothing until I actually post pics) But I don’t work out to be bigger that you anyway.
Who said I worked harder than you? Maybe you work equally hard but you will have twice my gains on “gear”. Being a personal trainer means nothing, I have two friends that are personal trainers that look liked toned girls. Basically, props for your “hard” work in the gym. I just feel its negated by your use of “gear”.
[quote]shizen wrote:
lol your trying to sound elitist now, your size gains have not been that huge for a first cycle you honestly did a re rate too fast I would have waited a few months maybe a year to actually see a big difference. Your on the right track but don’t get cocky you have a LONG ways to go. Keep it up though.
To the people giving him shit about his use should stfu. [/quote]
I agree with ya. i have for bout forty years now…thirty fout to be exact. when i was a mere boy, i was fifteen years young. i would walk thirty feet in the snow all the way to school with my hairbrush and toothpaste…twice a day.
I can’t be anti roids because I find no difference between them and a tit job. Granted there are girls who have been flat chested their entire lives and they decide to get surgery to boost their self confidence. Nothing wrong with that. There are also girls with B’s and C’s who decide they need D+ because their isnt much going on upstairs and they fell in love with the mirror along time ago, now they fight over the attention the guys give them and they give themselves.
I’m 21 so I am telling you this as a peer in iron, not a 45 year old BBer who spends too much time on the internet, or a kid who weighs a buck 20 with wet clothes yet thinks he can diminish others because they are bigger. You had a solid base, you say you are a Personal Trainer, unfortunately I can’t say that means you know allot about working out, but it does mean you can READ, so I’m gunna guess there is a mouse on the wheel still upstairs.
You are way too young to be doing this man. Your gains are not impressive, you think its hard for a 20 year old to build muscle? fuck your natural T is through the roof and your metabolism means you can bulk like Lee Priest with no consequence. If your gunna juice later in life go for it, but your 20 and you have no legs. Why not educate yourself before you medicate yourself.
