i just started lifting in 100% raw this april in the 165s. i can only speak for myself, but at 165 the raw total is 1298. it seems like a LONG way to go, at least for me.
i could go class I right now, if everything goes perfectly in a meet (it would be a squeaker, regardless). now, i have seen two guys total elite at 165, but they seem to be the only two in the recent results.
skizac, i also train in MD - but at FF in wintergreen. i am going to have to check out your gym sometime…