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[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
[quote]louiek wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I think we should discuss sticking points and the typical weaknesses that create said stickary.
IE:
Halfway through my squat it’s slow as shit. Outta the hole is speedy, the lockout is speedy, but halfway though time seems to stop completely. Like sitting at a damn red light with my dad while he talks about the weather forecast!!
=What being weak? Hamstrings? Core? Just ME in general, ha.
Uhh yeah.
Kthanksbros[/quote]
I stall right when I get past parallel (on the way back up). I think it’s due to weak hips and not moving fast enough.[/quote]
Me too. What are you doing about it? I’ve implemented paused goblet db front squats and about to start paused bb front squats and rdl variations. I’ll often get stuck just as my hamstrings are parallel to the ground. Sometimes a little above or below.
My other thought is maybe on the revearsal, my back is giving. But rdls and paused front squats oughta help that too I hope.[/quote]
Sumo deadlifts, because I hate sumo and suck at it, and maybe banded box squats as well.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Personally, when I miss a squat that way, it’s because I didn’t try.[/quote]
I somewhat agree with this. But I think that just means my hips are weak. If I give 80% exertion to everything, and everything except my hips make the lift, than my hips must not be as strong as everything else. And the bands will help me with giving 100% exertion.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
In all honesty guys, I think virtually EVERY raw squatter fails just a little above parallel most of the time. That’s where you lose the momentum from the stretch reflex popping out of the hole…think about it, how many raw squats have you ever seen failed right near lockout? I’m willing to bet just about none. Not saying that it means you don’t have any weak points if you fail just above parallel, but that’s not necessarily the best way to diagnose what your weak points ARE. [/quote]
I also agree with that, and strengthening hips and increasing explosiveness will help with failing right out of the hole. But, I’m also weak with sumo deadlifting and band work, which leads me to believe that getting better with that stuff would help. So, weak out of the hole might mean a few things, but for me, based on my other weakness’, I narrowed it down to weak hips.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Personally, when I miss a squat that way, it’s because I didn’t try.[/quote]
I somewhat agree with this. But I think that just means my hips are weak. If I give 80% exertion to everything, and everything except my hips make the lift, than my hips must not be as strong as everything else. And the bands will help me with giving 100% exertion.
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It’s just my exclusive opinion that if I can get out of the hole, I should be able to finish. That’s just me though.
[quote]karite36 wrote:
Ug[/quote]
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K hi I have another question and have already reached my “one thread a month” quota so I’ll post it here.
RE: Meet squat stressing
Will I be the only person there with butt wink? I seem to be incapable of fixing this issue…
Do many raw folk have a winky butt, and are there tips on improving this? I watched this mark bell fellow talk about doing box squats and adjusting the height to slowly go lower and lower down while staying tight, etcc…
:=)
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
K hi I have another question and have already reached my “one thread a month” quota so I’ll post it here.
RE: Meet squat stressing
Will I be the only person there with butt wink? I seem to be incapable of fixing this issue…
Do many raw folk have a winky butt, and are there tips on improving this? I watched this mark bell fellow talk about doing box squats and adjusting the height to slowly go lower and lower down while staying tight, etcc…
:=)[/quote]
um… wtf is a butt wink?
COME ON NOW ALBERTA BUDDY!!!
You know, when the tail bone tucks? Us cool kids call it butt wink.
Maybe you wink your butt and don’t even realize it!
Butt wink… Learn something everyday.
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
COME ON NOW ALBERTA BUDDY!!!
You know, when the tail bone tucks? Us cool kids call it butt wink.
Maybe you wink your butt and don’t even realize it![/quote]
Never would have guessed that’s what it’s called… I promise to never ever use that term.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
In all honesty guys, I think virtually EVERY raw squatter fails just a little above parallel most of the time. That’s where you lose the momentum from the stretch reflex popping out of the hole…think about it, how many raw squats have you ever seen failed right near lockout? I’m willing to bet just about none. Not saying that it means you don’t have any weak points if you fail just above parallel, but that’s not necessarily the best way to diagnose what your weak points ARE. [/quote]
I used to miss squats right before lockout because my technique was really screwed up.
I’ve heard pro olympic lifters do very well in powerlifting after retiring from oly lifting. Thoughts? I’m training to become an oly lifter but I have plans to be a raw, natural powerlifter in several years
[quote]bwesty1028 wrote:
I’ve heard pro olympic lifters do very well in powerlifting after retiring from oly lifting. Thoughts? I’m training to become an oly lifter but I have plans to be a raw, natural powerlifter in several years[/quote]
Getting good at lifting weights, moving quick, and being fearless without developing mobility issues carries over well to powerlifting.
Just found this thread, feel like I should join, maybe it will get me up for a meet.
All I have are gym numbers.
All are at about 175 weight, 5’10
Paused bench: 305
Deadlift: 445
Squat: 315
Not great numbers, but I’m ready to put in some work. Looking forward to this!
[quote]Razamataz wrote:
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
In all honesty guys, I think virtually EVERY raw squatter fails just a little above parallel most of the time. That’s where you lose the momentum from the stretch reflex popping out of the hole…think about it, how many raw squats have you ever seen failed right near lockout? I’m willing to bet just about none. Not saying that it means you don’t have any weak points if you fail just above parallel, but that’s not necessarily the best way to diagnose what your weak points ARE. [/quote]
I used to miss squats right before lockout because my technique was really screwed up.[/quote]
Sounds like you were doing some real fucked up shit
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
K hi I have another question and have already reached my “one thread a month” quota so I’ll post it here.
RE: Meet squat stressing
Will I be the only person there with butt wink? I seem to be incapable of fixing this issue…
Do many raw folk have a winky butt, and are there tips on improving this? I watched this mark bell fellow talk about doing box squats and adjusting the height to slowly go lower and lower down while staying tight, etcc…
:=)[/quote]
I’m not strong at all so maybe I shouldn’t post. That being said, shove your knees out hard (especially at the bottom) and your problem should be solved.
[quote]hastalles wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
K hi I have another question and have already reached my “one thread a month” quota so I’ll post it here.
RE: Meet squat stressing
Will I be the only person there with butt wink? I seem to be incapable of fixing this issue…
Do many raw folk have a winky butt, and are there tips on improving this? I watched this mark bell fellow talk about doing box squats and adjusting the height to slowly go lower and lower down while staying tight, etcc…
:=)[/quote]
I’m not strong at all so maybe I shouldn’t post. That being said, shove your knees out hard (especially at the bottom) and your problem should be solved.
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HEY! We’re all friends here! You post dammit, and you post with confidence!
Ok I guess I’ll join. Quick background, I’ve been into ‘fitness’ for awhile, but only got my shit together lifting wise in the past year or two.
I’m 6’2", 190 (yes skinny), and am just now getting really interested into PL over BB. So my lifts suck, but that’s going to change. Lifts are the typical bro-tard range. I haven’t attempted true maxes in some time, but they are in they look to be about 315/215/420.
I’m using the Coan Bench Program, and the Thompson method for Squats (first go at anything PL’ing like I think). Once school starts up again, I want to give Smolov a run.
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
[quote]hastalles wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
K hi I have another question and have already reached my “one thread a month” quota so I’ll post it here.
RE: Meet squat stressing
Will I be the only person there with butt wink? I seem to be incapable of fixing this issue…
Do many raw folk have a winky butt, and are there tips on improving this? I watched this mark bell fellow talk about doing box squats and adjusting the height to slowly go lower and lower down while staying tight, etcc…
:=)[/quote]
I’m not strong at all so maybe I shouldn’t post. That being said, shove your knees out hard (especially at the bottom) and your problem should be solved.
[/quote]
HEY! We’re all friends here! You post dammit, and you post with confidence![/quote]
ha, you’re the best Spock 
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]bwesty1028 wrote:
I’ve heard pro olympic lifters do very well in powerlifting after retiring from oly lifting. Thoughts? I’m training to become an oly lifter but I have plans to be a raw, natural powerlifter in several years[/quote]
Getting good at lifting weights, moving quick, and being fearless without developing mobility issues carries over well to powerlifting.[/quote]
Im going to do this in about 20 years. Get fat and bald and get cellulite behind my knees.
See this is the main issue I have with training weak points - many of the so-called sticking points are the same for EVERYONE.
The one place they seem to vary more is on the deadlift - I have a tough time locking it out whilst I know quite a few who have a hard time pulling it off the floor. However, the rest is the same. Bench press you shouldn’t fail at lockout and it’ll always be a few inches off the chest and same for squat. That’s just standard sticking points.
My issue with bands and chains is that they don’t help this; the bottom is lighter and there’s nothing you can do to change it so that it’s the opposite effect.