Rape-aXe: Anti-rape Condom

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Sure buddy…the girl in a high stress environment is going to pull out a folding knife…if your not accustomed to high stress environment there is a thing called flight or fight…[/quote]

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Sure BUDDY[/quote]

[quote]rasturai wrote:
if YOUR not accustomed…(bla bla bla high stress bullshit)[/quote]

If those were not addressed at me then who? Come on now your making this too easy. Fold this hand and come back with a better thought out bullshit argument. If you actually take some time to think I’m sure you can do it!

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Thank you ID…exactly what I said in my previous post “I know eh haha…here’s the same guy that would murder a girl in an instant if his dick was clamped with a device. But he can’t get out of a car with a girl strokin him in a parkin lot…haha man get the fuck outta here.”

He comes back with accusing me of rape-insensitive. Come on now, let’s get real here.

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Oh… you’re right, Rast. Sorry for my redundancy!

This kid needs to look up why men rape. He thinks it’s “to get a little nookie”.
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I can’t speak for other men, but last time I sat down and seriously plotted raping a broad, tying her up, and leaving her in the park for police to find - it was all for that nookie. MMMmmmmmmMMmmm that nookie. And the crazy broad who kept touching me whispered in my ear she wanted my cock in her pussy several times so I can only infer that is what she wanted.

Also, WHY HASN’T THE WORLD BEEN INFORMED OF THIS IRON!? You mean to say there is a fucking index in which we can look up why men rape women? ASTOUNDING! Here, you look that up, along with why men kill and why nations war.

Deorum - how long have you known you were a retart?

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Deorum - how long have you known you were a retart?[/quote]

qft… retard… and actually no, I am not assuming that was satire. Anyway have you too folded all logical argument and come to throw stones? Come on just stop replying, take some time to think, and come back with a better bs argument. We all have to fold hands but lets not knock the chips all over the table.

i fancy some cock tonight

[quote]ginger_spartan wrote:
i fancy some cock tonight[/quote]

I serve up a mean mandingo cock dish. As long as your supplying the poopoo platter to match me.

I throw stones after the battle is already over and I’m done pissing on the bones of those who already lost.

I have to admit, though, I was once 18 and thought I knew everything.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I throw stones after the battle is already over and I’m done pissing on the bones of those who already lost.

I have to admit, though, I was once 18 and thought I knew everything. [/quote]

Is that right? When do you think you will get past that stage? I mean, I’ve heard men who hold on to their childhood’s live happier so maybe you will be content without moving beyond that.

[quote]rasturai wrote:

[quote]Deorum wrote:
I must really be a future rapist then because I can tell you exactly what I would do if I were raping a girl and my dick got cut off. My mind must be intertwined with the brain waves of teh rapist. I should see a shrink before I go out and rape some broads.

With that out of the way, everything about the gun and knife vs a dick piercing device still stands. I’d like to think nobody is so illogical to dismiss that because I’m not an “actual rapist”.[/quote]

Sure buddy…the girl in a high stress environment is going to pull out a folding knife…if your not accustomed to high stress environment there is a thing called flight or fight…I’m not saying all girls would have flight…but they sure as hell would be shocked and would not have enough time to pull out their gun out of their purse or knife.

If I was a girl in South Africa I WOULD use this device…you don’t understand…again like I said in a high stress enviroment EVERY SECOND counts…if this device were to stun/shock the rapist for even a second it would buy VALUABLE time to pull out an automatic knife and she can fight for her life because clearly you are about to murder her because she clamped your dick. At least she has somewhat of an advantage now.[/quote]

Post the whole thing fucker.

[quote]Deorum wrote:

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Sure buddy…the girl in a high stress environment is going to pull out a folding knife…if your not accustomed to high stress environment there is a thing called flight or fight…[/quote]

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Sure BUDDY[/quote]

[quote]rasturai wrote:
if YOUR not accustomed…(bla bla bla high stress bullshit)[/quote]

If those were not address at me then who? Come on now your making this too easy. Fold this hand and come back with a better thought out bullshit argument. If you actually take some time to think I’m sure you can do it!

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Now that the whole thing can be scene again. The BUDDY first of all had absolutely NOTHING TO DO with high stress enviroment. It was addressing the PREVIOUS thing you had said…which can clearly be seen in the above post.

And the “your”…YOUR just trying to twist my words it’s pretty clear what I was trying to say before you trying to muck it all up.
Again you just want to win an argument…you even said in an earlier post “you don’t want to argue anymore, your feelings are hurt, come back when you want to play etc etc”.

ID, Lankymofo…they are right. You sir are blind to this.

Walk away man, you got nothing.

[quote]rasturai wrote:

[quote]rasturai wrote:

[quote]Deorum wrote:
I must really be a future rapist then because I can tell you exactly what I would do if I were raping a girl and my dick got cut off. My mind must be intertwined with the brain waves of teh rapist. I should see a shrink before I go out and rape some broads.

With that out of the way, everything about the gun and knife vs a dick piercing device still stands. I’d like to think nobody is so illogical to dismiss that because I’m not an “actual rapist”.[/quote]

Sure buddy…the girl in a high stress environment is going to pull out a folding knife…if your not accustomed to high stress environment there is a thing called flight or fight…I’m not saying all girls would have flight…but they sure as hell would be shocked and would not have enough time to pull out their gun out of their purse or knife.

If I was a girl in South Africa I WOULD use this device…you don’t understand…again like I said in a high stress enviroment EVERY SECOND counts…if this device were to stun/shock the rapist for even a second it would buy VALUABLE time to pull out an automatic knife and she can fight for her life because clearly you are about to murder her because she clamped your dick. At least she has somewhat of an advantage now.[/quote]

Post the whole thing fucker.[/quote]

Hahaha So now with the whole post in context suddenly “buddy” and “your” are not directed at me? “Fucker”? Don’t lift your skirt up and start tossing names at me just yet. Honestly if you just take some time and think up an actual bs argument instead of keeping your finger slapped on the reply button, I’m sure you can feign logic in your posts.

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Again you just want to win an argument…you even said in an earlier post “you don’t want to argue anymore, your feelings are hurt, come back when you want to play etc etc”.
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YOUR A GENIOUS!! (Subtile tribute to Lankie’s brilliant satire). You mean to say this entire time we were not even arguing over anything? We were just arguing for the sake of argument? Ya don’t say?

Take a time to read the last couple pages and laugh as I have been doing for the last 15 minutes. The asinine shit you guys will say when you think somebody is trying to slyly insult you is great.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Deorum
So, you’re only 18. I could dismiss your comments based on your age. But then I look at my 17-year old son and see he is lightyears ahead of you in dignity and intelligence.

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“I am still a little afraid of missing something if I forget that, as my father snobbishly suggested, and I snobbishly repeat, a sense of the fundamental decencies is parcelled out unequally at birth.”

I’m always game next time you want to have a piss fest, old sport.

[quote]Deorum wrote:
“I am still a little afraid of missing something if I forget that, as my father snobbishly suggested, and I snobbishly repeat, a sense of the fundamental decencies is parcelled out unequally at birth.”

I’m always game next time you want to have a piss fest, old sport.[/quote]

Bravo, Deorum. You really know how to shit your pants loudly.

[quote]C-Bear wrote:

[quote]Deorum wrote:
“I am still a little afraid of missing something if I forget that, as my father snobbishly suggested, and I snobbishly repeat, a sense of the fundamental decencies is parcelled out unequally at birth.”

I’m always game next time you want to have a piss fest, old sport.[/quote]

Bravo, Deorum. You really know how to shit your pants loudly.[/quote]

God this is awkward… Its like when you beat up a guy and his girlfriend throws a punch at you leaving all parties thoroughly confused and embarrassed… Go make some lasagna or something babe. They can handle themselves. Firm slap on the ass

I’ll humor you slightly though and ask what was the intent with “bravo”? Do you actually use that antiquated word in normal conversation(way to hold firm to the awkward of the entire comment) or did you miss the satire and references in my post?

I can see you there holding your tee cup watching a polo match on the telly. Really the whole comment was awkward regardless so you don’t have to answer, i’ll understand.

[quote]GSD wrote:
I don’t work in a hospital. I am a police officer. So I see a much larger pool of victims (those that report sexual assaults). The only situations I have heard of where the attacker stopped because of resistance was where the victim was perceived as a “weaker” victim or someone that the attacker believed should have been easily overpowered, such as children. Usually the attacker knew the victim, so the victim already had a fear for the attacker. Then when they encounter resistance it may surprise the attacker and cause them to hesitate or stop.

I realize I don’t encounter all causes of sexual assault because they are not all reported, but I see a lot of them. One that comes to mind is a handicapped male that used his crutch to beat a woman into submission before sexually assaulting her. So I still disagree that resistance will effectively deter a random attacker. That said, I’m not saying that a victim should just accept what is happening, but resistance may escalate the aggression of the attacker.

And for the women that I have encountered that were able to protect themselves, they were able to run to safety.

And if you want to speak of context and legitimate representation, I wouldn’t mind hearing where your source of information comes from. Mine is from reading police reports, speaking directly to victims, interviewing suspects and preparing court documents to prosecute said suspects.[/quote]
This thread has delaminated badly, but your response deserves a reply.

I mistook your reference to what you see in the hospital to mean you worked in one; being you’re a police officer, I agree, you see a larger sampling of victims and ways in which that crime can play out.

It’s worth noting that the instances in which you’ve heard of an attacker stopped are exactly the kind I described, i.e., ones where the attacker relied on passivity from the victim and was surprised.

I didn’t say that resistance will effectively deter a random attacker, I said that it many cases it can, and that ultimately individuals need to consider different scenarios, possible responses and likely outcomes, and decide for themselves what they can live with. Resistance may escalate the aggression of an attacker, it may thwart it. But I do think it’s ultimately a dubious kind of splitting hairs to fear invoking the wrath of an individual who already intends serious harm.

When possible, fleeing is ideal; absent that, fighting for your life because you may well be is a safer bet. In between the two, I think, is the most dangerous place to be – captive and submissive leaves one totally at an attacker’s mercy or lack thereof.

Certainly there are instances where immediate compliance has saved a life; there’ve been as many where it didn’t. So how does one judge? It becomes a personal choice, again, between likely scenarios and what one thinks they can live with.

It’s a terrible kind of algebra to have to do.

My sources of information come from places similar to yours, but from a career in social services, not law enforcement. I’ve read police, psychiatric (for assessment) and therapeutic (for treatment) reports on victims and perpetrators. I have personally counseled both for issues both related and unrelated to the crime. I have also taken the stand in court on behalf of rape victims.

Because it has been a part of my professional life, I’ve made a point reading various kinds of literature on the subject, from more clinical academic inquiries to the personal reportage of victims, perpetrators, and the various personnel whose professions involve dealing with the crime, to include those in law enforcement.

I don’t consider myself an expert; it is a complex, difficult and in many obvious ways painful subject – legally, psychologically, physically and morally – to try to come to a nuanced grip with, if you look at it from the many angles involved. I don’t think there’s a definitive answer to the questions posed.

But there is a personal one, and I’ve stated mine.

Finally back to topic. I’m not going to make this complicated at all this time because we see where it went last time. If you want to resist rape, as this device clearly is aimed at doing, why not carry a gun instead? Will anybody honestly argue this device is more effect at deterring rape than a gun? I never said I did not like the intentions of the device it is just clear this device would be ineffective at defending a women.

Economics considered I would still value a $1 folding knife over this device. It is just not logical. What it does do, is give women a sense of justice. They get to hit the attacker where it hurts the most. That, however, isn’t going to save their life after they take a man’s prized possession. The entire device is just illogical.

[quote]Deorum wrote:
Finally back to topic. I’m not going to make this complicated at all this time because we see where it went last time. If you want to resist rape, as this device clearly is aimed at doing, why not carry a gun instead? Will anybody honestly argue this device is more effect at deterring rape than a gun? I never said I did not like the intentions of the device it is just clear this device would be ineffective at defending a women.

Economics considered I would still value a $1 folding knife over this device. It is just not logical. What it does do, is give women a sense of justice. They get to hit the attacker where it hurts the most. That, however, isn’t going to save their life after they take a man’s prized possession. The entire device is just illogical. [/quote]

Why is it either/or? Obviously both would be best.

But the majority of women in S. Africa are extremely poor and can’t afford a firearm.

[quote]Deorum wrote:
Finally back to topic. I’m not going to make this complicated at all this time because we see where it went last time. If you want to resist rape, as this device clearly is aimed at doing, why not carry a gun instead? Will anybody honestly argue this device is more effect at deterring rape than a gun? I never said I did not like the intentions of the device it is just clear this device would be ineffective at defending a women.

Economics considered I would still value a $1 folding knife over this device. It is just not logical. What it does do, is give women a sense of justice. They get to hit the attacker where it hurts the most. That, however, isn’t going to save their life after they take a man’s prized possession. The entire device is just illogical. [/quote]

And exactly back to what I said before about HIGH STRESS SITUATIONS. It’s not like the guy walks up to you and says…Well how you doing? I’m about to rape you. Then proceeds. No it’s more of creeps behind you, takes you down and then trys to go to town. So please in that situation when does the woman have the time to take the gun out of the purse, OH remember to put that safety off, and then proceed to shoot. You really have no clue about it, I can tell. If you’ve ever jumped someone you would know exactly what I mean…they are helpless. As well if you’ve ever had someone attempt to jump you…or even WITNESS a jumping you will realize VERY FAST that there is pretty much NO TIME to get set up and ready to take the best route. In this case a woman taking a gun out of a purse or something, especially ina situation where adrenaline runs high…you do know that mistakes are MUCH easier made when adrenaline is high right? Just don’t see it happening. But if the device latches onto a dick cause extreme pain, that could give woman that second or two she needs to get up, take some steps back and then use that 1 dollar knife. I’m not saying the knife is a bad idea…the knife is a great idea…but the device coupled with the knife would work much better. Why limit yourself if you are in fear of getting raped?

[quote]rasturai wrote:

[quote]Deorum wrote:
Finally back to topic. I’m not going to make this complicated at all this time because we see where it went last time. If you want to resist rape, as this device clearly is aimed at doing, why not carry a gun instead? Will anybody honestly argue this device is more effect at deterring rape than a gun? I never said I did not like the intentions of the device it is just clear this device would be ineffective at defending a women.

Economics considered I would still value a $1 folding knife over this device. It is just not logical. What it does do, is give women a sense of justice. They get to hit the attacker where it hurts the most. That, however, isn’t going to save their life after they take a man’s prized possession. The entire device is just illogical. [/quote]

And exactly back to what I said before about HIGH STRESS SITUATIONS. It’s not like the guy walks up to you and says…Well how you doing? I’m about to rape you. Then proceeds. No it’s more of creeps behind you, takes you down and then trys to go to town. So please in that situation when does the woman have the time to take the gun out of the purse, OH remember to put that safety off, and then proceed to shoot. You really have no clue about it, I can tell. If you’ve ever jumped someone you would know exactly what I mean…they are helpless. As well if you’ve ever had someone attempt to jump you…or even WITNESS a jumping you will realize VERY FAST that there is pretty much NO TIME to get set up and ready to take the best route. In this case a woman taking a gun out of a purse or something, especially ina situation where adrenaline runs high…you do know that mistakes are MUCH easier made when adrenaline is high right? Just don’t see it happening. But if the device latches onto a dick cause extreme pain, that could give woman that second or two she needs to get up, take some steps back and then use that 1 dollar knife. I’m not saying the knife is a bad idea…the knife is a great idea…but the device coupled with the knife would work much better. Why limit yourself if you are in fear of getting raped?[/quote]

Well said.