[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Rattler wrote:
You guys missed the thing in Canada where some politician said the word oriental. Then a whole bunch of asian people protested the word oriental and accused him of being a racist.
I dunno about you, but I remember when I was younger that was the proper term for them. Oriental, it’s been that word for hundreds of years. Hell, asia is still called the Orient everywhere.
Wtf is up with that
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I think oriental is on par with “negro”, a term that wasn’t so much an outright insult at the time it was popular, but one that’s associated with segregation. Shedding those old labels can be seen as another step towards equal rights.
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By that terms, calling somebody asian would be segregation as well, considering I am labeling them as somebody else. I don’t find oriental offensive, and most ‘asians’ don’t either. That’s why there are still so many buffets owned by asians using the term oreintal in them. Most of the people that got pissed off were dumbass kids who didn’t know any better about their own history.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
I don’t think anyone should use it either, but I think it’s up black people to work it out as to whether or not they use it.[/quote]
Black people, by using the N word, have disarmed its power. Context is everything, and possession is 9/10 of the law.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I mix Worcestershire sauce with my mayo and use multi grain bread and hum “We Are the World” when I make my sandwiches. If it’s a chicken or turkey sandwich I use both dark and white meat. Then I wash it all down with a glass of milk mixed with root beer.[/quote]
I see what you did there but nevertheless I would’ve gone with chocolate milk instead of your milk/root beer abomination.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
I don’t think anyone should use it either, but I think it’s up black people to work it out as to whether or not they use it.
Black people, by using the N word, have disarmed its power. Context is everything, and possession is 9/10 of the law. ;-)[/quote]
Well said. That word is now used as a term of friendship more than anything because they had the balls back then to take a word used for degradation and turn into something more positive. I try to avoid using it and haven’t since I was a kid. However, I won’t pretend that reversing the meaning of the word didn’t do more good than bad in and of itself.
Then there are African dictators are ethnically cleansing their nations of all whites.
The media ignores this because it’s acceptable to brutalize white people and tell them to “go back to Europe”.
Meanwhile, in the developed world, where there are more than enough VALID racial issues to be addressed, people are having a hissy-fit over “devil’s food cake”.
[quote]ElbowStrike wrote:
Meanwhile in Africa, REAL victims of racism:
B.C. missionaries badly beaten in Kenya
Elderly couple ‘sold everything’ to help widows, orphans
Kent Spencer, Canwest News Service
Published: Thursday, July 10
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That is difficult to stomach irrespective of race of anyone involved.
[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
That is difficult to stomach irrespective of race of anyone involved.[/quote]
Absolutely.
However when the media sweeps racial motivation under the rug I find it absolutely disgusting. In the couple’s interview on TV they mentioned multiple times that during the attack they were being insulted and mocked with local racial slurs for whites.
I’m sure if a Canadian/American elderly black or asian couple doing charity work in Eastern Europe were attacked in such a way the racial aspect of the attacks would be the entire focus of the report.
You guys just need to accept that it’s not that stereotypes are wrong, they’re just not always white.
(Ok, I was trying to be funny, but there is some semblance of truth to it).
I am Middle Eastern and I remember watching TV the day of 9/11 and talking to a friend on the phone. He said, “We’re about to see how the Japanese were treated 50 years ago.”
Now, I don’t think that’ll EVER happen again, or at least not under those exact conditions, but I could see his point. I think I got ONE dirty look the week of 9/11 at a grocery store, in my hometown that was once considered the 4th safest city in the country.
It does bug me, though, to hear people complain about a racial term - as much as I hate them myself and don’t use them - with the same passion as for instance a black person in South Africa would have complained about apartheid.
You haven’t seen ‘racism’ if you haven’t travelled abroad. We’re just too fucking sheltered here, so anything we can make an issue of we will do so to feel like we’re on par with the rest of the world and the suffering others are going through.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Good find elbowstrike…for me anyways, stories like that help put things into perspective. [/quote]
How is that? That is another country with another history. Their social ills are not the same as our own just like most Americans would have little clue about the social climate in Ireland.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
…the truth still stands that people see black men often as a threat or “dangerous” where as white guys are not usually seen in the same light unless referring to a serial killer and even then, they are seen as individuals and not as a group.
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Unfortunately, I think this is very true. I recently saw an Oprah episode (yes yes I watch it now and then) where a black woman wouldn’t hire a black tradesman to do repairs to her house simply because he was black and she assumed he would either steal from her or worse. She hired a white guy based on his colour, indicating that it made him a safer bet. Go figure.
I’ve often thought it would be good to have the thought processes of a blind person - meaning I could meet a person of any colour or race and base my perceptions of them purely on the words I hear them speak, and not on a collaboration of their words, height, colour, race, facial features, disabilities, weight etc etc…
I think it would be nice to be judged this way, on words and actions alone.
[quote]Duke wrote:
Professor X wrote:
…the truth still stands that people see black men often as a threat or “dangerous” where as white guys are not usually seen in the same light unless referring to a serial killer and even then, they are seen as individuals and not as a group.
Unfortunately, I think this is very true. I recently saw an Oprah episode (yes yes I watch it now and then) where a black woman wouldn’t hire a black tradesman to do repairs to her house simply because he was black and she assumed he would either steal from her or worse. She hired a white guy based on his colour, indicating that it made him a safer bet. Go figure.
I’ve often thought it would be good to have the thought processes of a blind person - meaning I could meet a person of any colour or race and base my perceptions of them purely on the words I hear them speak, and not on a collaboration of their words, height, colour, race, facial features, disabilities, weight etc etc…
I think it would be nice to be judged this way, on words and actions alone.[/quote]
People judge what they see…and I understand that completely. However, there actually seem to be many white Americans who believe that there are no tangible hardships that blacks alone face in this country to a greater degree than other races, and that alone is what fuels even more animosity.
I will say that if my grandmother was still alive, she would view my life as something she dreamed about. Therefore, I can’t claim to have the slightest clue what real life altering racism is about on that level (pre-1965 racism). However, I have seen enough of it to know that it is still enough to hold quite a few people back if they aren’t prepared and informed that it is still present in this country and that they will have to have their shit together more than others to move past it.
People judge what they see…and I understand that completely. However, there actually seem to be many white Americans who believe that there are no tangible hardships that blacks alone face in this country to a greater degree than other races, and that alone is what fuels even more animosity.[/quote]
You got it half-right.
The other half is blacks thinking that they are the only people who have suffered.
This is not new. It’s just new to you.
I doubt you lay awake nights feeling bad about what happened to the Indians who used who used to live where you park your car. I’m pretty sure they had it as rough, or rougher than the blacks.
People judge what they see…and I understand that completely. However, there actually seem to be many white Americans who believe that there are no tangible hardships that blacks alone face in this country to a greater degree than other races, and that alone is what fuels even more animosity.
You got it half-right.
The other half is blacks thinking that they are the only people who have suffered.
This is not new. It’s just new to you.
I doubt you lay awake nights feeling bad about what happened to the Indians who used who used to live where you park your car. I’m pretty sure they had it as rough, or rougher than the blacks.
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…and those Native American Indians are now almost extinct.
I don’t know even one black person who thinks they are the only group who has suffered.
Not one.
Please find me the individual who actually believes this.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Professor X wrote:
People judge what they see…and I understand that completely. However, there actually seem to be many white Americans who believe that there are no tangible hardships that blacks alone face in this country to a greater degree than other races, and that alone is what fuels even more animosity.
You got it half-right.
The other half is blacks thinking that they are the only people who have suffered.
This is not new. It’s just new to you.
I doubt you lay awake nights feeling bad about what happened to the Indians who used who used to live where you park your car. I’m pretty sure they had it as rough, or rougher than the blacks.
…and those Native Americans Indians are now almost extinct.
I don’t know even one black person who thinks they are the only group who has suffered.
Not one.
Please find me the individual who actually believes this.[/quote]
John Wiley Price.
Now find one white person who thinks that blacks have never suffered.
What does nearly being extinct have to do with the plight of black America?
You do realize that this thread was started because this dipshit was offended at the use of the term “black hole”, right?
Not every word that flows from a white man’s mouth is meant to display hatred towards blacks. I doubt that many white people really give a shit one way or another about blacks - or any other race for that matter.
Also to anybody that really thinks terms like the Dark Side or any other terms that resembles Dark and Black has to do with black people. Our eyes see the reflection of light so in absolute Darkness you can’t see. You can’t see what evil lurks. People are uncomfortable in the dark. Thats why these terms are used. Dark just so happens to look black. So people also use the word Black because it looks Dark like “Black Hole”. It has nothing to do with black people.
Matter of fact if you want to get down to it black people aren’t black just various colors of brown. Matter of fact white people are even a lighter brown. The only people that aren’t brown are albino people due to the fact there skin can’t produce the pigment melanin. I can’t believe I actually had to explain all this.
