[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
Whenever I see a man, I know I might be sent to the kitchen to make a sandwich.
but that has nothing to do with race…[/quote]
You want mayo or not?
[quote]Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
Whenever I see a man, I know I might be sent to the kitchen to make a sandwich.
but that has nothing to do with race…
You want mayo or not?[/quote]
I like my sandwhiches plain so it’ll be easier for you.
[quote]ElbowStrike wrote:
I’m pretty damn sure that the ancient “light = good / dark = bad” symbolism has nothing to do with skin or race and everything to do with night and day.
If you wander around at night you can be robbed, murdered, raped by people, or mauled and eaten by predators. Hence, darkness is associated with threatening and evil things.
Extended periods of darkness also negatively effect mood and motivation, so the times of year that are darkest tend to suck the life out of people. Almost as if there’s some kind of “evil force” associated with the “darkness” that keeps getting stronger until the solstice when the days start getting longer and the “light” of the sun comes to save everyone.
The lighter times of year also mean crops grow, game animals are plentiful, and the women are hornier. So light is good.
Also, the whole “man in white” thing probably has to do with white being associated with upper-class people in times past, seeing as the only way you could wear white would be if you didn’t have to work for a living. Otherwise you’d soil all your nice white clothes.
Darkness = night, predators, death
Lightness = daytime, crops, game animals, horny women, and wealthy clothes
The origins have nothing to do with race. Jesus Christ.
ElbowStrike[/quote]
No one said the ORIGIN had to do with race. It isn’t a leap, however, to assume that many of the associations with skin color and stereotypes could have been affected (even subconsciously) by the already existing association of certain colors with certain actions.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
But seriously, racism is fucked up.
Whenever I see a group of white guys, I know my land might be stolen if I don’t watch it.[/quote]
Hey man, at least they might give you some diseases in exchange.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
LiftSmart wrote:
I’ve never spoken to a black person before.
And I’ve only seen five in my life.
lol Canada
Really? Are you serious?[/quote]
Yup.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
Whenever I see a man, I know I might be sent to the kitchen to make a sandwich.
but that has nothing to do with race…
You want mayo or not?
I like my sandwhiches plain so it’ll be easier for you.[/quote]
No sauce?
How the hell am I to know what race you are then?
[quote]Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
Whenever I see a man, I know I might be sent to the kitchen to make a sandwich.
but that has nothing to do with race…
You want mayo or not?
I like my sandwhiches plain so it’ll be easier for you.
No sauce?
How the hell am I to know what race you are then?[/quote]
I hate mayonnaise and want Grey Poupon mustard on my sandwich
[quote]Qaash wrote:
Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
Whenever I see a man, I know I might be sent to the kitchen to make a sandwich.
but that has nothing to do with race…
You want mayo or not?
I like my sandwhiches plain so it’ll be easier for you.
No sauce?
How the hell am I to know what race you are then?
I hate mayonnaise and want Grey Poupon mustard on my sandwich[/quote]
You don’t like mayo, therefore I know you’re not white.
See, stereotypes hold true once again! 
[quote]Christine wrote:
Qaash wrote:
Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
Whenever I see a man, I know I might be sent to the kitchen to make a sandwich.
but that has nothing to do with race…
You want mayo or not?
I like my sandwhiches plain so it’ll be easier for you.
No sauce?
How the hell am I to know what race you are then?
I hate mayonnaise and want Grey Poupon mustard on my sandwich
You don’t like mayo, therefore I know you’re not white.
See, stereotypes hold true once again!
[/quote]
Yet I will have mayo in my tuna sandwiches
[quote]Christine wrote:
Qaash wrote:
Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
Whenever I see a man, I know I might be sent to the kitchen to make a sandwich.
but that has nothing to do with race…
You want mayo or not?
I like my sandwhiches plain so it’ll be easier for you.
No sauce?
How the hell am I to know what race you are then?
I hate mayonnaise and want Grey Poupon mustard on my sandwich
You don’t like mayo, therefore I know you’re not white.
See, stereotypes hold true once again!
[/quote]
what would you say if asked for your special sauce?
[quote]Qaash wrote:
Christine wrote:
Qaash wrote:
Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
Whenever I see a man, I know I might be sent to the kitchen to make a sandwich.
but that has nothing to do with race…
You want mayo or not?
I like my sandwhiches plain so it’ll be easier for you.
No sauce?
How the hell am I to know what race you are then?
I hate mayonnaise and want Grey Poupon mustard on my sandwich
You don’t like mayo, therefore I know you’re not white.
See, stereotypes hold true once again!
Yet I will have mayo in my tuna sandwiches[/quote]
Hmmm… this is a conundrum. I’ll have to contemplate this turn of events.
[quote]Christine wrote:
Qaash wrote:
Christine wrote:
Qaash wrote:
Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Christine wrote:
Whenever I see a man, I know I might be sent to the kitchen to make a sandwich.
but that has nothing to do with race…
You want mayo or not?
I like my sandwhiches plain so it’ll be easier for you.
No sauce?
How the hell am I to know what race you are then?
I hate mayonnaise and want Grey Poupon mustard on my sandwich
You don’t like mayo, therefore I know you’re not white.
See, stereotypes hold true once again!
Yet I will have mayo in my tuna sandwiches
Hmmm… this is a conundrum. I’ll have to contemplate this turn of events.
[/quote]
I’m sure you’ll manage successfully 
Why is it that everyone here have to say “n word?” I think were all mature enough to understand that if someone says “nigger” theyre not calling anyone a nigger, especially on an internet forum. Words like these will be thrown around a lot. Might aswell get used to it.
People from my school call pakistani people “paki” which is the equivilant of nigger to a black person. Asian kids at my school get called chings all the time. My school is more racist than usual because no one is brave enough to fight back after having racist comments towards them.
Only 2 people in my grade stood up, and that was me and this asian kid i know. Another kid (sikh) often said stuff, but he never actually did anything when his turban was made fun of.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
If you all really wanted a good discussion, you would admit that some stigma attached to color (relating also to skin color) have social references that relate to certain colors as negatives. This DOES have at least some carry over, even though far less today than in the past.
[/quote]
Absolutely.
I think that a lot of terms used and accepted today may have been created around negatives, and I’m sure to some degree relating to skin colour and such. I also think that in some cases they relate to the unknown, such as the dark often being referred to as “mysterious”.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
If you all really wanted a good discussion, you would admit that some stigma attached to color (relating also to skin color) have social references that relate to certain colors as negatives. This DOES have at least some carry over, even though far less today than in the past.
That is why “the Dark side” means evil and “good” is seen as “the guy in white”.
How silly is this concept when we still use these references?
Do all of you really think that “blacks” in general have not had to deal with negative labels associated only with color?
While some may blow this completely out of proportion…the truth still stands that people see black men often as a threat or “dangerous” where as white guys are not usually seen in the same light unless referring to a serial killer and even then, they are seen as individuals and not as a group.[/quote]
I believe in political correctness to a certain extent. Certain words should be off limits. No white person should ever use the word “nigger”. I don’t care where they’re from or how many black friends they have. That should be common sense.
The problem with the “devils food cake” case is that it is flat out ridiculous. Anyone who is offended by the name devils food cake has too much time on their hands. This kind of nit-picking is why political correctness has become a bad word.
A word that does have some negative racial origins is the term “cake-walk,” which from what I understand, comes from the old minstrel shows. But 99% of the people who use that term have no idea what it means, or where it comes from. It has been so far divorced from it’s original meaning that it doesn’t need to be stricken from the vocabulary, and people who use the term don’t need lectures and sensitivity training.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
I believe in political correctness to a certain extent. Certain words should be off limits. No white person should ever use the word “nigger”. I don’t care where they’re from or how many black friends they have. That should be common sense.
[/quote]
If that’s the case nobody should use the word.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
I believe in political correctness to a certain extent. Certain words should be off limits. No white person should ever use the word “nigger”. I don’t care where they’re from or how many black friends they have. That should be common sense.
If that’s the case nobody should use the word.
[/quote]
That would be a good thing.
Their boss, McGERKIN approaches with a very large woman.
Her head is clean-shaven. The two are still laughing, out of breath, they turn.
MCGERKIN
Boys this is Rose, Baum, Gurtle…Gurtle.
ROZ
Rozengurtle Baumgartner.
MCGERKIN
You’ll be training her today, and do a good job.
BOTH BOYS
Aye.
CONNOR
(wipes hand and extends it) Pleased ta meet ya Rozie.
She points to a tattoo on her neck that reads untouched by man.
ROZ
I prefer to be called Rozengurtle by men.
CONNOR
(taken aback) Okay then… let’s get ya started.
Connor exits with Roz.
MURPHY
Christ, that’s the largest woman I’ve ever seen.
MCGERKIN
It’s self-imposed affirmative action. If we hire big, fat, angry lesbians, then the leftist groups representing big, fat angry lesbians, won’t think we’re violating their rights.
MURPHY
Well, how politically correct you are. That’s good stuff.
MCGERKIN
Hey, those people can shut ya down. They’ll sue you into the ground claiming they were put under mental duress, inner pain. and sufferin’.
MURPHY
Well, as long as we’re hirin’ fat lesbians, give your ma a call.
Murphy laughs as he jogs away.
MCGERKIN
Fuck you Murphy.
INT. NOLAND’S MEAT PACKING PLANT CUT STATION SAME DAY
Rozengurtle and Connor stand in front of a bunch of co-workers who are cutting meat as it goes by on assembly.
CONNOR
Okay, just cut off as much fat as you can as it goes by and the rule of thumb here is…
ROZ
Rule of thumb?
CONNOR
(questioningly) Yeah?
ROZ
Do you know where that term comes from? In the early 1900’s it was legal for men to beat their wives as long as they used a stick no wider than their thumb.
Connor holds up his thumb and stares at it.
CONNOR
Can’t do much damage with that. Perhaps, it shoulda been the rule of wrist. Ha! (he elbows her) Rule of wrist.
She returns an icy stare. He hands her the knife. The co- workers all seem wary of Roz.
Murphy stands on one side of Roz, Connor on the other, surrounded by a tight group of workers. Everyone is within ear shot of one another, cutting meat as it goes by. Knowing
glances are shared by everyone. It is an uncomfortable mood.
CONNOR
Hey Murphy?
MURPHY
Aye.
CONNOR
(slight smirk) How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
MURPHY
How many?
CONNOR
Two. One ta screw it in and one ta suck my cock.
Everyone burst out laughing. Rozengurtle jabs a knife in a piece of meat and turns to Connor. She pushes him and starts walking toward him. He starts backing up, laughing.
ROZ
(angry)
I knew you two pricks would give me problems. Give me shit cause I’m a woman. I’m not gonna take your male dominance bullshit!
CONNOR
(trying to calm her, but still chuckling)
Oh, come on now Rozengurtle. I was just tryin’ ta get a rise outta ya.
MURPHY
Yeah. Just tryin’ ta break the ice is all.
ROZ
(to Murphy) Fuck you…
(to Connor) …and fuck you!
MURPHY
Oh, come on its St. Patty’s Day. It’s all in good fun.
Employees gather around all the excitement.
ROZ (V.O.)
Baumgartner sound Irish to you, fuck face?
CONNOR
Now look Rozengurtle, we’re sorry. Just relax.
She reaches back and punches Connor full force in the face.
He takes the hit very well. He stops backing up.
CONNOR
Why don’t you save all your aggression for protests and marches and what not.
She suddenly drives her boot into his crotch, sending him to the floor reeling with pain. Two female co-workers leap to
his aid.
ROZ
You fuckin’ slaves. Kowtowing to the needs of men! Get up! Get the fuck up! Leave him there.
Rozengurtle begins to turn, raising her fist to Murphy.
Murphy winds up and punches her square in the face. She lands on her back. The on-lookers are stunned as he walks over and
stands above her.
MURPHY
Guess you’ll have ta change that tattoo now, won’t ya Rozie!?
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
I believe in political correctness to a certain extent. Certain words should be off limits. No white person should ever use the word “nigger”. I don’t care where they’re from or how many black friends they have. That should be common sense.
If that’s the case nobody should use the word.
[/quote]
I don’t think anyone should use it either, but I think it’s up black people to work it out as to whether or not they use it.