R.I.P. Rachel Corrie

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]pat36 wrote:
lixy wrote:
pat36 wrote:
What is being lost here is, what did these Palistian “doctors” do in incur the wrath of Israel? That’s what I want to know.

Israel, in defiance to international law, flattens Palestinian houses to build Jewishs settlements.

That’s all there is to know.

I wanted to know why they flattened that house, or building. Not searching for ad hominem response that Jews hate palestinians and were flattening there houses for sport.[/quote]
They where going through an area where people smuggled weapons. The bitch got in the way the bitch got run over. I have no sympathy for anyone that burns our flag

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[quote]pat36 wrote:
I wanted to know why they flattened that house, or building. Not searching for ad hominem response that Jews hate palestinians and were flattening there houses for sport.[/quote]

And I answered that as best as I can. Where do you see an ad hominem in my reply? Where do you see that Jews hate Palestinians? Whene do you see that they flattened the house for sport?

Here’s what I wrote:

Israel, in defiance to international law, flattens Palestinian houses to build Jewishs settlements.

You managed to interpret it with your wild imagination into something TOTALLY different.

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[quote]lixy wrote:
pat36 wrote:
What is being lost here is, what did these Palistian “doctors” do in incur the wrath of Israel? That’s what I want to know.

Israel, in defiance to international law, flattens Palestinian houses to build Jewishs settlements.

That’s all there is to know.[/quote]

That is not why they were destroyed. They were destroyed because they were tied to terrorism.

Israel also flattens Jewish settlements.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
That is not why they were destroyed. They were destroyed because they were tied to terrorism.
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We have yet to see a shred of evidence supporting that claim. Just as I needed more than Washington’s word about Saddam’s link with Al-Qaeda, I also need evidence backing that claim up.

On a related note, the Observer reported: “On the night of Corrie’s death, nine Palestinians were killed in the Gaza Strip, among them a four-year-old girl and a man aged 90.”

How can a 4 year old girl be tied to terrorism?

True. Would that have anything to do with the fact that they were illegal in the first place?

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Don’t play chicken with a bulldozer. Especially during a military operation.

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Reading more about this. Do you realize she had kneeled down in the path of the bulldozer? This a specially built military bulldozer with an extremely limited range of vision.

"The IDF produced a video about Corrie’s death that includes footage taken from inside the cockpit of a D9. It makes a “credible case,” Joshua Hammer wrote in Mother Jones, that “the operators, peering out through narrow, double-glazed, bulletproof windows, their view obscured behind pistons and the giant scooper, might not have seen Corrie kneeling in front of them.”[11]

Because the Caterpillar D9 bulldozers have a restricted field of vision with several blind spots, Israeli army regulations normally require that other soldiers assist in directing bulldozer drivers, but the Israeli army commander of the Gaza Strip said in an interview broadcast on Israeli television that, on the day of Corrie’s death, soldiers had to stay in their armored vehicles and were not able to direct the bulldozer, or arrest the protesters, because of the threat of Palestinian snipers."

And, do your realize she actually climbed up onto the debris in the blade of the bulldozer? She did this even when it was clear that the bulldozer was not stopping.

'Joe Smith said: "Rachel had two options. When the bulldozer started to dig in the dirt pile, the pile started to move, and she could have rolled sideways quickly or fallen backwards to avoid being hit. But Rachel leaned forward to climb to the top of the dirt pile.

The bulldozer’s digging drew her downward, and its driver could not see her anymore [me: assuming he was ever able to see her kneeling in the path of the scoop]. So without lifting the scoop, he turned backward and she was already underneath the blade."[7]

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Anyways, since we’re wishing one Rachel to R.I.P, let’s not forget the other Rachel’s who’ve died in the Arab-Israelis conflict. Why leave them out, right?

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_9_57/ai_n1563099

"You may remember Rachel Corrie, the 23-year-old American radical who was crushed to death when she jumped in front of an Israeli army bulldozer.

(The bulldozer was trying to destroy a building suspected of concealing tunnels used for terrorist weapons-smuggling; Corrie was part of a group that declared “armed struggle” a Palestinian “right.”)

Corrie has since become a hero of the international Left, inspiring ongoing protests against the bulldozer-making company Caterpillar and, now, a play about her life, based on her diary, at one of London’s most prestigious theaters.

The British press, predictably, has gushed about the play, and about Corrie’s passion and apparent self-sacrifice. But as our friend Tom Gross points out, forgotten are several other Rachels who have lost their lives in the Arab-Israeli conflict–all killed by Palestinian terrorists: Rachel Charhi, Rachel Gavish, Rachel Levi, Rachel Levy, Rachel Shabo, and Rachel Thaler.

Corrie’s death was unfortunate, but more unfortunate is a Western media and cultural establishment that lionizes “martyrs” for illiberal causes while ignoring the victims those causes create."

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Here’s a piece concerning the Rachels that got little to zero news time. I wonder why? Where were all the stories about these Rachel’s? Why no concerts and plays made to honor them? I guess it’s just not radical enough, not trendy, not cool.

http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/TheForgottenRachels.html

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[quote]Sloth wrote:
Anyways, since we’re wishing one Rachel to R.I.P, let’s not forget the other Rachel’s who’ve died in the Arab-Israelis conflict. Why leave them out, right?

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_9_57/ai_n1563099

"You may remember Rachel Corrie, the 23-year-old American radical who was crushed to death when she jumped in front of an Israeli army bulldozer.

(The bulldozer was trying to destroy a building suspected of concealing tunnels used for terrorist weapons-smuggling; Corrie was part of a group that declared “armed struggle” a Palestinian “right.”)

Corrie has since become a hero of the international Left, inspiring ongoing protests against the bulldozer-making company Caterpillar and, now, a play about her life, based on her diary, at one of London’s most prestigious theaters.

The British press, predictably, has gushed about the play, and about Corrie’s passion and apparent self-sacrifice. But as our friend Tom Gross points out, forgotten are several other Rachels who have lost their lives in the Arab-Israeli conflict–all killed by Palestinian terrorists: Rachel Charhi, Rachel Gavish, Rachel Levi, Rachel Levy, Rachel Shabo, and Rachel Thaler.

Corrie’s death was unfortunate, but more unfortunate is a Western media and cultural establishment that lionizes “martyrs” for illiberal causes while ignoring the victims those causes create." [/quote]

So this bitch was trying to protect a terrorist cause. Hero to terrorists to go along with those heroes in Algeria who killed some 23 people who obviously deserved it. Boy my eyes are welling up now.
I wonder how many Jews those terrorists she was trying to protect have killed. Oh well I guess they are just Jews so they don’t matter right?

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Now, let’s take a look at a REAL peace loving hero. This a moderate muslim, Bassam Malah, who supported peace with Israel and the US. In fact, he was known to work in an Arab Israel town called Umm. So, of course, he had to be a collaborator deserving of death.

Let’s see what the Islamic Jihad and the hundreds of Palestinians standing around did to him…There are other photos, such as Palestinian women in their nice, clean, white, head to toe Burqas, standing on his head. I’ll spare you all those photos.

Where’s his damn memorial? Where’s the international fascination with this man of peace? Again, I guess it’s just not radical and cool enough.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:
Now, let’s take a look at a REAL activist hero. This a moderate muslim who supported peace with Israel and the US. Let’s see what the Islamic Jihad and the hundreds of Palestinians standing around did to him…
Where’s his damn memorial? Where’s the international fascination with this man of peace? Again, I guess it’s just not radical and cool enough.[/quote]

Peace with Israel and the US, the guy kicking him is the hero. Just like those brave men in Algiers.

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[quote]pat36 wrote:

So this bitch was trying to protect a terrorist cause. Hero to terrorists to go along with those heroes in Algeria who killed some 23 people who obviously deserved it. Boy my eyes are welling up now.
I wonder how many Jews those terrorists she was trying to protect have killed. Oh well I guess they are just Jews so they don’t matter right?[/quote]

Yeah, she was part of ISM. Do a search on some of things these people have done. They have ACTIVELY hid terrorist leaders, disrupted Israel attempts to capture gunmen, attempt to disrupt demolition of terrorist built smuggling tunnels and weapon caches. They are NOT peace activists at all. They themselves may not pick up a suicide vest, but they protect those who recruit people that will do so. Hell, the Red Cross asked that they be expelled from the building the two were sharing.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:
Hell, the Red Cross asked that they be expelled from the building the two were sharing.
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I guess the Red Cross people didn’t want to be run over by bulldozers.

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[quote]lixy wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Hell, the Red Cross asked that they be expelled from the building the two were sharing.

I guess the Red Cross people didn’t want to be run over by bulldozers.[/quote]

Then they’d only need to avoid kneeling down in front of a military bulldozer that has a craptastic field of view. And, once said bulldozer lumbered over to them, not climb up into the shovel/blade.

Seriously though, it had to do with ISM members hiding a high level recruiter of Suicide Bombers (not to mention other incidents). Not as funny as your quip?

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[quote]Sloth wrote:
Then they’d only need to avoid kneeling down in front of a military bulldozer that has a craptastic field of view. [/quote]

You’re right.

On the day of Rachel’s killing, a four-year-old girl was killed by the IDF. Surely she didn’t kneel in front of no bulldozer.

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[quote]comical lixy wrote:
On the day of Rachel’s killing, a four-year-old girl was killed by the IDF. Surely she didn’t kneel in front of no bulldozer.

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Misdirect
We aren’t talking about the 4 year old, although sad, we are talking about this woman who darwined herself

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[quote]Sloth wrote:
Perhaps officially recognizing Israel’s right to exist might help?[/quote]

Could you please explain what good it did to Arafat?

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
pat36 wrote:
lixy wrote:
pat36 wrote:
What is being lost here is, what did these Palistian “doctors” do in incur the wrath of Israel? That’s what I want to know.

Israel, in defiance to international law, flattens Palestinian houses to build Jewishs settlements.

That’s all there is to know.

I wanted to know why they flattened that house, or building. Not searching for ad hominem response that Jews hate palestinians and were flattening there houses for sport.
They where going through an area where people smuggled weapons. The bitch got in the way the bitch got run over. I have no sympathy for anyone that burns our flag

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Oh, I can only imagine the outrage when somebody would dare to make a similar statement about the soldiers dying in Iraq.

Somebody should burn your pubic hair. It would certainly distract from the pain you feel when you see your flag burning.

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[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
comical lixy wrote:
On the day of Rachel’s killing, a four-year-old girl was killed by the IDF. Surely she didn’t kneel in front of no bulldozer.

Misdirect
We aren’t talking about the 4 year old, although sad, we are talking about this woman who darwined herself

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Ok, let’s open this discussion a bit. Did over 3000 people Darwin themselves in Iraq. Was Kerry right when he said: they we’re stupid mofo to get themselves stuck in Iraq?

Or is the differnce between a hero and a stupid bitch only wether you agree with his/her point of view or not?

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[quote]Wreckless wrote:
kevinm1 wrote:
pat36 wrote:
lixy wrote:
pat36 wrote:
What is being lost here is, what did these Palistian “doctors” do in incur the wrath of Israel? That’s what I want to know.

Israel, in defiance to international law, flattens Palestinian houses to build Jewishs settlements.

That’s all there is to know.

I wanted to know why they flattened that house, or building. Not searching for ad hominem response that Jews hate palestinians and were flattening there houses for sport.
They where going through an area where people smuggled weapons. The bitch got in the way the bitch got run over. I have no sympathy for anyone that burns our flag

Oh, I can only imagine the outrage when somebody would dare to make a similar statement about the soldiers dying in Iraq.

Somebody should burn your pubic hair. It would certainly distract from the pain you feel when you see your flag burning.
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Hmmm…So, the only way you can make a point is to alter what I actually wrote and add to it? I never said anything about burning the flag, that shit was added. Fortunately, my original post will back me up and just proves you are an even bigger loser than previously thought.

I can alter your statements to, but it would only server to hide what an idiot you are.