You know what’s demeaning…having a woman tell you she wants to be slapped and you deciding that, “no, she couldn’t really mean that, because that would be demeaning”
When she tells me to smack her, I’m going to smack her and in doing so, I’ll have done more for women’s rights in one night than Andrea Dworkin did over her entire career.
Well, this is timely (author is a Houston Press columnist):
[quote]Against my better judgment I’ve been doing a lot of reading on the purity movement. If you’ve never been exposed to it, then I’ll explain. The idea is basically that you, as a father, are supposed to serve as the sole male influence in your daughter’s life until she gets married. You “guard her heart (and vagina)” because only you can be trusted with it. Certainly she can’t. If God wanted women to be in charge of their genitals or feelings he wouldn’t have let them be born in Texas.
You go to these weird balls where you dance with your daughter like it’s a prom and you give her a ring very like a wedding ring. The term “emotional incest” gets thrown around a lot by detractors, and is the second most horrifying phrase I’ve learned this year after “glue fic.” Then you hand off your little girl to your approved suitor who then acts exactly like you did except plus sex.
Better writers than I, like Libby Anne, have tackled the subject in depth, and you should spend an afternoon reading her work. She went through it as a daughter of movement, though. I’m a dad, and I am perfectly aware that the sexual health of this child is going to be part of my job. I’m not looking forward to it, to tell the truth, but if the alternative is fetishizing chastity while giving Oedipus a handie then by God I’m going in full guns blazing.
Here are the ten things I know I need to tell a modern girl about sex once she matures enough to roll her eyes throughout the conversation.
Flashback
How My Daughter Made Me a Better RPG Gamer
That sex is beautiful and fun as hell, but so is driving a car and a bunch of other things that come with responsibilities. You need to ask yourself if you can handle those. I knew I couldn’t be trusted with a car at 16, so I didn’t ask for one. Same with sex. I waited until I knew I was with someone that wouldn’t use me wrong and knew what they were doing. You shouldn’t be afraid of it, but you should respect its possible consequences, such a pregnancy, disease, and just the general mess that sometimes come from sleeping with someone you shouldn’t have.
That someone that feels the need to lie, trick, or force you into sex is never going to be the slightest bit interested in your enjoyment of it. You might as well be a gym sock as far as they’re concerned. Don’t be a trophy.
That you should never do anything that will make you hate yourself to gain another person’s approval. You are not defined by the approval of others, and anyone who says you are wants to control you. You are your own person with your own unique value to yourself.
Your body belongs to you. Anyone that doesn’t respect that is an enemy. Run if you can, fight if you can’t, and never let someone convince you asked for or deserved it if all else fails. If a person makes you feel that they can fire you or fail you in a class or something if you don’t return their affections then they are just a rapist that doesn’t like to go out. Leave and tell someone immediately, because if it wasn’t you it will be someone else.Flashback
Creationists Ruined My Ability to Enjoy Watching My Daughter Ride a Dinosaur
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6. You cannot be “ruined,” by an act. You can only be ruined if you let shame and self-loathing consume you, and even then there is always a path back into the light. This goes double for someone trying to convince you sex is evil. That person was either hurt badly or seriously misled.
There is no such thing as “the mood” or “killing the moment.” Anyone that thinks taking a second to put on a condom ruins the experience is probably very bad at sex anyway, and you should just leave until they grow-up.
You are far more than just your decorative worth or status as a sex partner. Never let someone convince you that they are doing you a favor by sleeping with you because no one else would want you. That’s just a guilt trip used by creeps.
Treat sex like gymnastics. Wait till you’re ready, go slow, and remember that no one can do a back flip on the first try. Also, porn is acting, not a how-to guide. If you want a how-to guide, ask and I will buy you one. I took a class and everything. There is nothing that can’t be improved by approaching it honestly, openly, and with a willingness to learn.
Don’t let someone take pictures of you naked unless you are absolutely fine with everyone you know seeing them… or before you’re 18 because that shit’s illegal. That goes for taking pictures of yourself as well. People get arrested for that.
In direct connection to the last statement, there is nothing you will ever do that will shock me, disappoint me, or most of all make me stop loving you. Whatever happens, I am your dad, and I’ll stand by you. So talk to me.[/quote]
Good and bad, right and wrong…
You people must drive yourselves crazy.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Got it. Everything you’re comfortable with is okee-dokee. Anything you’re not comfortable with is demeaning. Even if she wants it.
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Not really. It is more along the lines of: if I slap her, I will be doing something that I feel treats her as an inferior, which will continue outside the bedroom. And it continues because of me.
If she wants that, than I’m not the dude she needs to be with, because at that point, I can’t separate that submissive game in the bedroom and my general image of her.
So if I were to do it, I’d be demeaning myself, because I don’t want to do it. However not doing it demeans her more than I feel doing it does from her point of view because she wants it.
I don’t have a problem with them getting paid to do it.
[quote] It seems like you’re saying that you’re uncomfortable with the fact that girls get paid for this, and therefore it must be demeaning. Or does is disturb the illusion that some woman is getting bukkake-ed simply because she really loves cock snot all over her face?
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More the later than the former.
Like I said, I like the homemade stuff for a reason. Because I know, best as I can, that they are doing it for reasons beyond the money.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
No, I haven’t been arguing christian values. It is demeaning and cheapens a person.[/quote]
Why is it demeaning? Is there something inherently demeaning about sex?
Or, do you think that the only way a woman could possibly want to be fucked in the ass is to be paid for it?
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Hah. No. For the record, sex is good. Sex is a wonderful gift.
The physical act without the emotional act is demeaning. And not just to to woman.
Sex is awesome. And a ferrari is fast.
The morality I’m speaking of isn’t a forbidding. I’m not talking about someone giving up things they enjoy for the sake of avoiding breaking some arbitrary rule. I’m talking about running the way were are designed to run. You can ask me what about “girls that porn makes happy?” just like you could as “what about cars that run fine without changing the oil?”
I’m saying not changing the oil regularly is bad. If you don’t change the oil for an extra few thousand miles, and maybe put low octane gas in the high compression ferrari, and don’t check tire pressures, you might can get away with it for a time. Maybe even quit a while, but in the end putting the right fuel in, maintaining engine oil and inflated tires is going to win out. You do all the things your supposed to with a car because you get a BETTER more satisfying experience than those who don’t. The same thing applies to your body and mind.
It’s only bad if she moans like an arthritic granny who has an umbrella wedged in her ass.Makes me limp every time.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
For those that believe porn is immoral, some questions:
What, exactly, about porn makes it sinful? Is it the fact that the actors aren’t married? That the encounter is taped? Is it the broadcast of the video that makes it a sin, or only when someone else has watched it?
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It’s the poor production.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
You know what’s demeaning…having a woman tell you she wants to be slapped and you deciding that, “no, she couldn’t really mean that, because that would be demeaning”
When she tells me to smack her, I’m going to smack her and in doing so, I’ll have done more for women’s rights in one night than Andrea Dworkin did over her entire career.[/quote]
How dare you mention Andrea Dworkin and sex in the same posting.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
For those that believe porn is immoral, some questions:
What, exactly, about porn makes it sinful? Is it the fact that the actors aren’t married? That the encounter is taped? Is it the broadcast of the video that makes it a sin, or only when someone else has watched it?
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It’s the poor production.
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It’s the poor clothing choices.
[quote]print wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
For those that believe porn is immoral, some questions:
What, exactly, about porn makes it sinful? Is it the fact that the actors aren’t married? That the encounter is taped? Is it the broadcast of the video that makes it a sin, or only when someone else has watched it?
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It’s the poor production.
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It’s the poor clothing choices.[/quote]
Sadly I remember when people dressed like this.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
You honestly think it can make people happy in life?[/quote]
Sure, why not?
I mean we are talking about an industry that isn’t known for being full of joy, treating women respectfully, or having all that many sober people involved, so it is hard to fathom it would, given the current incarnation of the vast majority of porn.
That said, given the right situation, if someone is an exhibitionist and enjoys people watching them do things, as long as there is no coercion and she is sober, who the hell am I to stop her?
It is like the example of a husband and wife who make videos and sell them on their own site, or submit mostly anonymous self shots to voyeur communities… [/quote]
“an industry that isn’t known for being full of joy, treating women respectfully, or having all that many sober people involved”
Ever wonder why that is? Would you acknowledge the possibility that it has to do with something inherent in porn?
What if being drunk is part of what makes it “good” for her?
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]print wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
For those that believe porn is immoral, some questions:
What, exactly, about porn makes it sinful? Is it the fact that the actors aren’t married? That the encounter is taped? Is it the broadcast of the video that makes it a sin, or only when someone else has watched it?
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It’s the poor production.
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It’s the poor clothing choices.[/quote]
Sadly I remember when people dressed like this.
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As do I. I think I was confirmed in that very outfit.
I’m not really seeing a problem.
1.) Females in the industry are treated fair, and they make more $ than their counter parts. As long as they are treated fairly I don’t see a problem with the work. I wouldn’t want my daughter doing it because I’d want her to be successful by using her mind not her body not because I think it’s wrong.
2.) Physcially, unless you watch several hours a day, I don’t see a problem. ED can be an issue, but I think that’s when you guys spend 2-3 hours a night with the stuff.
3.) Marriage, watching here and there can spice things up. I don’t see an issue here as long as there is open communciation between partners. If you slap your wife in the face with your cock because that’s what happened in the porn, then ya it might be detrimental.
Moderation is the key word here.
Counter question: Is 50 Shades of Grey bad or immoral? I know that has had some interesting ramifications. The London fire department has reported increased calls due to handcuff malfunctions. I saw a baby t-shirt the other day that said, “Mommy read 50 Shades of Grey 9 Months ago.”
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m not really seeing a problem.
1.) Females in the industry are treated fair, and they make more $ than their counter parts. As long as they are treated fairly I don’t see a problem with the work. I wouldn’t want my daughter doing it because I’d want her to be successful by using her mind not her body not because I think it’s wrong.
2.) Physcially, unless you watch several hours a day, I don’t see a problem. ED can be an issue, but I think that’s when you guys spend 2-3 hours a night with the stuff.
3.) Marriage, watching here and there can spice things up. I don’t see an issue here as long as there is open communciation between partners. If you slap your wife in the face with your cock because that’s what happened in the porn, then ya it might be detrimental.
Moderation is the key word here.
Counter question: Is 50 Shades of Grey bad or immoral? I know that has had some interesting ramifications. The London fire department has reported increased calls due to handcuff malfunctions. I saw a baby t-shirt the other day that said, “Mommy read 50 Shades of Grey 9 Months ago.”[/quote]
"I wouldn’t want my daughter doing it because I’d want her to be successful by using her mind not her body not because I think it’s wrong. "
Seems arbitrary. You think she would be better off using her mind?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m not really seeing a problem.
1.) Females in the industry are treated fair, and they make more $ than their counter parts. As long as they are treated fairly I don’t see a problem with the work. I wouldn’t want my daughter doing it because I’d want her to be successful by using her mind not her body not because I think it’s wrong.
2.) Physcially, unless you watch several hours a day, I don’t see a problem. ED can be an issue, but I think that’s when you guys spend 2-3 hours a night with the stuff.
3.) Marriage, watching here and there can spice things up. I don’t see an issue here as long as there is open communciation between partners. If you slap your wife in the face with your cock because that’s what happened in the porn, then ya it might be detrimental.
Moderation is the key word here.
Counter question: Is 50 Shades of Grey bad or immoral? I know that has had some interesting ramifications. The London fire department has reported increased calls due to handcuff malfunctions. I saw a baby t-shirt the other day that said, “Mommy read 50 Shades of Grey 9 Months ago.”[/quote]
"I wouldn’t want my daughter doing it because I’d want her to be successful by using her mind not her body not because I think it’s wrong. "
Seems arbitrary. You think she would be better off using her mind?[/quote]
Yes. There are more opportunities in a number of fields. You use your body you’ve got what; porn/prostitution, modeling, acting, and sports. You use your mind, there are endless possibilities.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m not really seeing a problem.
1.) Females in the industry are treated fair, and they make more $ than their counter parts. As long as they are treated fairly I don’t see a problem with the work. I wouldn’t want my daughter doing it because I’d want her to be successful by using her mind not her body not because I think it’s wrong.
2.) Physcially, unless you watch several hours a day, I don’t see a problem. ED can be an issue, but I think that’s when you guys spend 2-3 hours a night with the stuff.
3.) Marriage, watching here and there can spice things up. I don’t see an issue here as long as there is open communciation between partners. If you slap your wife in the face with your cock because that’s what happened in the porn, then ya it might be detrimental.
Moderation is the key word here.
Counter question: Is 50 Shades of Grey bad or immoral? I know that has had some interesting ramifications. The London fire department has reported increased calls due to handcuff malfunctions. I saw a baby t-shirt the other day that said, “Mommy read 50 Shades of Grey 9 Months ago.”[/quote]
"I wouldn’t want my daughter doing it because I’d want her to be successful by using her mind not her body not because I think it’s wrong. "
Seems arbitrary. You think she would be better off using her mind?[/quote]
Yes. There are more opportunities in a number of fields. You use your body you’ve got what; porn/prostitution, modeling, acting, and sports. You use your mind, there are endless possibilities.[/quote]
But you can be very successful with it.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m not really seeing a problem.
1.) Females in the industry are treated fair, and they make more $ than their counter parts. As long as they are treated fairly I don’t see a problem with the work. I wouldn’t want my daughter doing it because I’d want her to be successful by using her mind not her body not because I think it’s wrong.
2.) Physcially, unless you watch several hours a day, I don’t see a problem. ED can be an issue, but I think that’s when you guys spend 2-3 hours a night with the stuff.
3.) Marriage, watching here and there can spice things up. I don’t see an issue here as long as there is open communciation between partners. If you slap your wife in the face with your cock because that’s what happened in the porn, then ya it might be detrimental.
Moderation is the key word here.
Counter question: Is 50 Shades of Grey bad or immoral? I know that has had some interesting ramifications. The London fire department has reported increased calls due to handcuff malfunctions. I saw a baby t-shirt the other day that said, “Mommy read 50 Shades of Grey 9 Months ago.”[/quote]
"I wouldn’t want my daughter doing it because I’d want her to be successful by using her mind not her body not because I think it’s wrong. "
Seems arbitrary. You think she would be better off using her mind?[/quote]
Yes. There are more opportunities in a number of fields. You use your body you’ve got what; porn/prostitution, modeling, acting, and sports. You use your mind, there are endless possibilities.[/quote]
But you can be very successful with it.[/quote]
You can be, but the likelihood is lower.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
You can be, but the likelihood is lower.[/quote]
So it’s the likelihood of success that you don’t like? Interesting. Would you be proud of your boy if he made it in the NFL?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
You can be, but the likelihood is lower.[/quote]
So it’s the likelihood of success that you don’t like? Interesting. Would you be proud of your boy if he made it in the NFL?[/quote]
Yes.
I’d also be proud of him no matter what he did as long as he works hard at it.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
You can be, but the likelihood is lower.[/quote]
So it’s the likelihood of success that you don’t like? Interesting. Would you be proud of your boy if he made it in the NFL?[/quote]
Yes.
I’d also be proud of him no matter what he did as long as he works hard at it. [/quote]
And… if your daughter made it as a porn star?