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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

WTF?

It doesn’t matter if I want my kids doing it. I don’t want my kids bunjee jumping either.

That doesn’t make bunjee jumping bad.

What the hell are you talking about?[/quote]

But why wouldn’t you want your little girl doing porn? It’s a simple question an very poignant to the topic. [/quote]

Because I feel she can do better things.

That doesn’t mean I think the girl who IS doing it is doing something BAD.

Please feel free to set us straight on what makes it bad besides your kids not doing it.[/quote]

Because as a Christian the Bible teaches you that certain things are wrong. Lust is a sin, pre-maritial sex is a sin, therefore porn, which has both, is sinful. I respect that other people don’t believe that way, but as a Christian most of my judgment of right and wrong comes from biblical teaching.

On a side note, I also believe that there are some serious problems with the excessive consumption of porn, especially at a young age, that have nothing to do with morals. It seems that the more porn is watched, the more desensitized the individual becomes to the tamer stuff and they keep seeking more and more extreme forms of porn, which then leads to actual sexual encounters that mostly are of the vanilla variety not being as arousing. And in some instances of the right combination of individual, I think that excessive porn consumption early in life can lead to sexually deviant behaviors.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

Because as a Christian the Bible teaches you that certain things are wrong. Lust is a sin, pre-maritial sex is a sin, therefore porn, which has both, is sinful. I respect that other people don’t believe that way, but as a Christian most of my judgment of right and wrong comes from biblical teaching.[/quote]

I also know very few Christians even who waited until marriage before having sex.

I am just pointing that out…because many of the same people who did NOT wait seem to be voicing opinions about how bad porn is.

In that context, we are all sinners…and not everyone here is Christian.

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On a side note, I also believe that there are some serious problems with the excessive consumption of porn, especially at a young age, that have nothing to do with morals. It seems that the more porn is watched, the more desensitized the individual becomes to the tamer stuff and they keep seeking more and more extreme forms of porn, which then leads to actual sexual encounters that mostly are of the vanilla variety not being as arousing. And in some instances of the right combination of individual, I think that excessive porn consumption early in life can lead to sexually deviant behaviors.[/quote]

I do agree with this…and it will get worse with how “freely” extreme porn is available.

I have seen some things that have put m on edge…and it is blatantly available to any teen who can look it up.

However, the basic question isn’t really the extreme…which I agree can be damaging to someone’s life especially if this is their main form of sexual expression.

The main question is what makes porn wrong in itself.

You can watch porn without “lusting”…whether it is unlikely to happen or not.

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On a lighter note has anyone watched porn blooper reels or high speed BJ’s. That stuff is hilarious. The best one is when the camera man is getting up close for the money shot and gets spayed on his head and screams for a towel. Epic aha.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

Because as a Christian the Bible teaches you that certain things are wrong. Lust is a sin, pre-maritial sex is a sin, therefore porn, which has both, is sinful. I respect that other people don’t believe that way, but as a Christian most of my judgment of right and wrong comes from biblical teaching.[/quote]

I also know very few Christians even who waited until marriage before having sex.

I am just pointing that out…because many of the same people who did NOT wait seem to be voicing opinions about how bad porn is.

In that context, we are all sinners…and not everyone here is Christian.

Just because many Christians participate in pre-marital sex (I am guilty of this) does not mean that they still do not view it as a sin. Just because I participated in something doesn’t mean that I don’t think it is a sin. I know lying is a sin but that hasn’t really stopped me yet. We are all (Christians included) sinful creatures.

And I am aware that many do not share my belief, but my belief system is why I think it is wrong. Just because I think its wrong, doesn’t mean that anyone has to agree with me. It is just one of those issues that will be individualistic based on a persons on moral and spiritual beliefs.

That’s what makes porn wrong in and of itself to me. However, someone that doesn’t believe what I believe probably will not have that same reasoning and porn may be perfectly fine to them.

I also think that porn can go hand in hand with drugs and alcohol as addictive substances that people need to be wary of. I think that porn, when mixed with masturbation to climax can give someone a natural high that they can become addicted to, to the point of it effecting their lives.

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[quote]Jlabs wrote:
The best one is when the camera man is getting up close for the money shot and gets spayed on his head and screams for a towel. [/quote]

Don’t forget to spay and neuter your camera man!

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

Just because many Christians participate in pre-marital sex (I am guilty of this) does not mean that they still do not view it as a sin. Just because I participated in something doesn’t mean that I don’t think it is a sin. I know lying is a sin but that hasn’t really stopped me yet. We are all (Christians included) sinful creatures. [/quote]

Well, my point is, if that alone is your reasoning for why it is bad…well then, that obviously doesn’t stop you from sinning…so what makes it so wrong that no one should do it is more the question.

This is a large society. What makes it wrong for the non-Christian as well?

Well, you ca say that about ANYTHING…from beer to someone smoking a joint for the first time.

I am not one to buy into the “gateway” argument. I think it fails fr drug use just like for this.

Yes, there has to be a “moral line”…but I honestly feel that is very personal.

I won’t be watching “two girls one cup”.

I have my standards.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

Just because many Christians participate in pre-marital sex (I am guilty of this) does not mean that they still do not view it as a sin. Just because I participated in something doesn’t mean that I don’t think it is a sin. I know lying is a sin but that hasn’t really stopped me yet. We are all (Christians included) sinful creatures. [/quote]

Well, my point is, if that alone is your reasoning for why it is bad…well then, that obviously doesn’t stop you from sinning…so what makes it so wrong that no one should do it is more the question.

This is a large society. What makes it wrong for the non-Christian as well?

Well, you ca say that about ANYTHING…from beer to someone smoking a joint for the first time.

I am not one to buy into the “gateway” argument. I think it fails fr drug use just like for this.

Yes, there has to be a “moral line”…but I honestly feel that is very personal.

I won’t be watching “two girls one cup”.

I have my standards.[/quote]

I believe that one God created us all, therefore there is one set of rights and wrongs. However, I also understand that even though I believe that God created someone, doesn’t mean that they believe the same thing that I do. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion. I also believe that no sin in God’s eyes is any greater than the other, and because of that, we should try to refrain from all sin.

Although I believe it is wrong for any person to watch porn (because God said so), this doesn’t mean that the non-believer will think the same thing, or give a flying crap what I think. As you said, that is a personal belief.

And I wasn’t very clear with my drugs and alcohol statement. I in no way was trying to say that porn is a gateway to drugs or alcohol, as I believe like you that the argument regarding gateways is a rather flimsy one. I simply meant that it is similar in that it is an addictive behavior, similar to drugs or alcohol.

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Porn is bad for your libido and routines.

I’ve not watched porn for a more than a week now and I already feel better when I am horny. Stronger erections with more “oomph”, bigger loads and more importantly, a bigger desire for women.

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I knew someone would catch that. Should have edited .GRRRlol

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[quote]harrypotter wrote:

I’ve not watched porn for a more than a week now and I already feel better when I am horny. Stronger erections with more “oomph”, bigger loads and more importantly, a bigger desire for women.

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So is sex bad too then? Because when you take a week’s break from sex, the same results happen.

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[quote]Jlabs wrote:
I knew someone would catch that. Should have edited .GRRRlol[/quote]

I couldn’t help myself!

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I called pacific Rim Job first! Who can I sue?

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
I bet if we compared porn revenue by country (adjusted for population size differences and purchasing power) against an obesity chart by country you’d find fatter countries consume more porn.[/quote]

Can’t believe this is getting skipped. Interesting thought.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’ve met very few young men that avoid women for video games + porn. They just do all three. [/quote]

The problem with this is you don’t know how much time you waste on video games and porn until you don’t spend time on them. I’ve been off porn since that thread some time ago and while it was difficult for a week or two, I now have no real desire to consume porn. You can’t possibly know how it affects you until you dabble in it for 15 or so years and then cut it off. I actually went through symptoms that I can only describe as withdrawal. Something as worthless as pornography had inflicted me with physical symptoms that I was completely unaware of until I abstained from it. For that reason alone porn is bad.

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I never understood how porn was such a big deal or how people get addicted to it. I would much rather spend my time doing something better.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’ve met very few young men that avoid women for video games + porn. They just do all three. [/quote]

Just play video games and watch porn with your woman. Problems solved

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I hate those kids who blast porn over their mic’s. Makes me wanna play with my other joystick.

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Premise:

  • Human sexuality is sacred. A human being having sex outside of marriage is wrong. A human being intentionally sexually exciting him/herself or another human being outside of marriage is wrong.

If the above premise is accepted, then it is self-evident why any porn is morally wrong.

EDITED ADDED QUALIFIERS
If the above premise is rejected, then it is more difficult (and perhaps impossible) to provide a really solid argument why mild porn without a zillion more-porn-links all over the place should be considered morally wrong, in and of itself. If the above premise is rejected, then mild porn without a zillion more-porn-links all over the place might reasonably be considered similar to alcohol: something ok for most adult people in moderation, when produced by sane volunteer adults under reasonable circumstances.

EDIT
But even absent the premise at the top of my post, internet porn with a zillion more-porn-links all over the place could be considered morally wrong for the same reason as LSD or crack cocaine – just too damn mind-altering and crazy addictive.

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[quote]undoredo wrote:
Premise:

  • Human sexuality is sacred. A human being having sex outside of marriage is wrong. A human being intentionally sexually exciting him/herself or another human being outside of marriage is wrong.

If the above premise is accepted, then it is self-evident why porn is morally wrong.

If the above premise is rejected, then it is more difficult (and perhaps impossible) to provide a really solid argument why porn should be considered morally wrong, in and of itself. If the above premise is rejected, then porn might reasonably be considered similar to alcohol: something ok for most adult people in moderation, when produced by sane volunteer adults under reasonable circumstances.
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If the goal is increased satisfaction in life and love, porn is still bad.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]undoredo wrote:
Premise:

  • Human sexuality is sacred. A human being having sex outside of marriage is wrong. A human being intentionally sexually exciting him/herself or another human being outside of marriage is wrong.

If the above premise is accepted, then it is self-evident why porn is morally wrong.

If the above premise is rejected, then it is more difficult (and perhaps impossible) to provide a really solid argument why porn should be considered morally wrong, in and of itself. If the above premise is rejected, then porn might reasonably be considered similar to alcohol: something ok for most adult people in moderation, when produced by sane volunteer adults under reasonable circumstances.
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If the goal is increased satisfaction in life and love, porn is still bad.
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Good point. The OP does ask why people consider porn “bad”, not only why or how it would be considered morally wrong.