Question for Bill Roberts/Vets

Here I am asking for advice on something I thought I never would…

The jist of the issue is that I’m involved in a fat-loss/muscle retention/“getting ripped” contest with quite a bit of money on the line. I’ve finished my last cycle too recently to do another and beyond that, on my last cycle I gained fat and at no point did my bodyfat% go down…so I wouldn’t be looking to do that again anyway.

Granted my diet is much better now, there is another reason I can’t do a standard ‘fat-loss’ cycle. About a week before this contest ends I’m going to be going on tour and there will be border crossings (at some point) so I can’t get caught with ANYTHING or I’d be totally fucked and so would all the people I’ll be with.

So I’m wondering about a short, oral-only cycle, probably with stanozolol. Somewhere between 2-4 weeks. I’m wondering if I do it just for the last two weeks if I can get away without having to even run PCT (or have pct meds on hand) or if I should do it maybe 3-4 weeks and run a small PCT (or still none at all). I’m not as concerned getting caught with PCT stuff because that’s easy to blend in with other supps.

So there it is- any support for an oral-only cycle even under these circumstances?

If its enough money to be worth fucking with T3, I’d do that.

T3/clen would probably serve you well. I’d stay on the low end with the T3 though if you use it.

How long will you be on tour?

Peptides?

I thought you lost a lot of bodyfat on your tren cycle? was that not the case?

Do us all a favor and drop a few grams of DNP under your tongue.

[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
If its enough money to be worth fucking with T3, I’d do that.

T3/clen would probably serve you well. I’d stay on the low end with the T3 though if you use it.

How long will you be on tour? [/quote]

Haven’t looked into T3 ever, will have to do some research on it. I already have stanozolol on hand that was left over from the previous cycle so that’s why right now it’s my number one choice.
Tour will be mid-April through late May.

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
I thought you lost a lot of bodyfat on your tren cycle? was that not the case?[/quote]

I dropped about 4-5% bf before I started the cycle. I also used Dbol to kickstart the cycle and gained a lot of weight, fast, not all of it good. My diet wasn’t the best, but the Tren kept me relatively lean throughout. In fact I think it worked better than the winstrol. I didn’t lose any bodyfat during the 4.5 weeks I was on winstrol which led me to believe that it was not the best quality. Ultimately I ended up adding about 2% bodyfat back on.

Suspension + T3 + Fasted GH or GHRP/RH + Higher Dose Adex

Run Velocity Diet or similar.

You will feel like a bag of shit. Go go gadget #starvationmode

Oh and throw in the Winstrol at the end 25-40mg ED. Maybe throw some Proviron in the final day or two. There are lots of protocols on BB preps floating out there. Also cut the GH or GHRP out a few days early

-PTD

[quote]PAINTRAINDave wrote:
Suspension + T3 + Fasted GH or GHRP/RH + Higher Dose Adex

Run Velocity Diet or similar.

You will feel like a bag of shit. Go go gadget #starvationmode [/quote]

I don’t know if I trust myself to use GHRP in this instance (where I haven’t been able to see how I react to it yet). I have a feeling it could lead to some really bad dietary choices.

I don’t know the protocol or duration for which it should be used. I’ll have to research it, but I’ve only got a couple days to do so.

Right now I’m doing Intermittent Fasting. It worked great for me last time. I was able to drop that 4-5% bf with virtually no strength loss. I think it’s not too different from the V-Diet.

Not gonna do GHRP. I am considering doing a short stint (maybe 5 weeks) with Test Prop/Winny or Test Prop/Var. It would be a lower dose of Test prop, around 500mg/wk / 75mg/day.

Going to review this more when I get home.