Q&A with Shadow Pro

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
I wouldn’t worry about the 1600, the tests will be out of range even in with a low dosage like 200mg/week. If you don’t have any health problems or specific sensitivities to the test then you could definitely blast and cruise long term without any serious health risks. I know lots of people who do it for years on end and I’m assuming you are a healthy guy.

The only issue is that it might cause some fertility issues if you aren’t using it with HCG, but if you aren’t planning on having anymore kids then it’s not a huge issue. In your cruise you could add 250iu of HCG 2x/ week if you want.
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Done having kids or at least trying to have kids so I’m safe there. No problems at all w/ health. Thanks so much for the info. It was a major help.

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[quote]whattheapple wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]whattheapple wrote:
Hello,
I have a couple of questions in regards to TRT. I am currently 25 and had a lot of blood work done in recent months to determine my “issue”. A quick little background. I have been impotent since my first sexual experience. After many years I discovered that this isnÃ??Ã?¢??t normal. (about 50/50 chance of it “working” aka wet noodle syndrome) and decided i should see a doctor.

I lost around 55 pounds, quit drinking, quit smoking and eating properly. Fast forward to today, I have multiple test AM tests done (5 to date, ranging from 6.2 to 8.0 nmol/L). After these tests were done I was sent to a specialist for further testing (some stats are… SHBG 12 nmol/L, SHBG 12 nmol/L, Testosterone/SHBG 0.65, Bioavailable Test 5.8). After these results were done it was determined that I had “physiologically Lower levels of sex hormone binding globulin”, and no further action was taken by that doctor.

I went to get a second opinion as being impotent at 25 is in my opinion unacceptable. The new doctor seemed to care about my person issues and decided to start TRT (delatestryl 200 mg/ML, 1.5ml per month, and 1 shot, but because its on short I had substitute it for Depo-Testosterone Inj 100mg/ml at 3ml per month). I had baseline testing done before my first shot, and will be repeating testing every 6 weeks for 3 visits, than once every 6 months.

Now my questions. Should I be cycling, or because this is TRT there is no need to cycle? Also, at this dosage is it necessary to have anything for estrogen levels? What kind of side effects should I be expecting at this dosage or what should I look out for? Also, at this dosage how long will it take effectively be in my system (next day, or 2-3 weeks?) And what kind of questions should I be asking my doctor for when I see him next?
Thank you for taking the time to read and maybe reply to all my questions.
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There’s no need to cycle off of such a low dose, in your case it’s beneficial to stay on this. At such a low dose you won’t need to worry about estrogen levels but if you notice any issues your doctor should prescribe something for you but I really doubt this will be an issue.

You should expect to feel more energetic and a better overall feeling of well… And it should help fix your original issue. You will start too seeing good things happen after about 2 weeks. You could ask the doctor to pay attention to make sure you aren’t getting gyno issues and also ask to get regular blood tests to see that your test levels are increasing with the treatments.[/quote]

Thank you! My next question hopefully makes sense. My SHBG (sex hormone binding glublon?) is low. my question is would test shots even work since thats low? my understanding is that SHBG is what converts test to be “usable”

still alot to learn, and thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. from my reading, 1 single shot of 300mg for 1 month is not the greatest. i should be doing once every 2 weeks or even weekly to minimize the extreme highs n lows effect(dosage adjusted of course). with such a low dosage would it matter going from 2 weeks to one? i wouldnt be pinning myself.[/quote]

Definitely worth a shot, it works well for some people in the same situation. It’s not guaranteed as it seems to work well for some people and have little or no effect for others but there’s no harm in trying. If you have the option to pin yourself, I would definitely pin once a week.

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[quote]tortellini3 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

If you want to experiment with tren in your 3rd cycle that’s up to you. The dbol with tren is a good combo for strength. Take dbol pre workout and before bed so you won’t have issues with the half life… The timing doesn’t have to be that accurate, a few hours give or take won’t make a huge difference.

With what you have, you can try something like this.
Week 1-12
Test-e 500mg/week
Tren-e 400mg/week
Week 1-6
Dbol 30-50mg/day
250iu Hcg 2x/week
10-20mg nolva

Pct:
Clomid @ 50mg for 4 weeks
500iu Hcg 2x/week for 4 weeks
Nolvadex @ 20mg for 4 weeks.

Happy you liked the article, I will hopefully have another new one up soon.
[/quote]Thank you. Quite the same plan I was thinking of. So just to be sure: I should shoot 500IU HCG for weeks 1-6, then stop for weeks 6-12 + the remaining 10 days of the testosterone’s half-life, and then start back to shoot HCG with my anti-estrogen ?

Oh, and another question: was wondering what could be the best plan to correct my biggest symmetry issue (the front delt). picture : http://tnation.T-Nation.com/forum_images/b/9/b91ca_ORIG-gymevo2.jpg

As you can see, my front right delt (left on the picture) is more developped, and there is a better harmony with my upper right pec. I guess that being on a cycle is the best moment to try to correct this. I was thinking about training my shoulders once a week as usual, but to do 3-4 sets of dumbbell front raise (with my left arm only) another day. Could maybe do the same thing for my left lat, and even my left lower pec. Seems like all my left side is weaker than my right one. -_-

Thanks.[/quote]

You’re correct about the HCG. You can even do it for weeks 1-8 if you want.

I can see what you’re talking about but it’s not as significant as you think… We all have a weaker side and what you proposed isn’t a bad idea for a plan. Even 5 extra sets per body part would work well. Also, when you are training that body part add an extra 6-8 reps to the weak side in every exercise you do.

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[quote]Genk250 wrote:
Shadow,

Thanks for the reply.

As for training, i consider my workouts very intense, and hard. Like i said in other post i do a mountaindog style now, focusing on moving heavy weight in strict form, going for the most intense pump. In my younger years i did doggcrapp style training (dante worked with me for 3 years and built the foundation i have now) i also went to Las Vegas to learn Beyond Failure Training with the late Trevor Smith. There i learn what true intensity was. Now i consider myself wiser and older so Meadows style is my best fit.

I"ll take a look at the Plazma for my intra workout. Ive been doing Gycofuse but it never hurts to change things up.

Thank you[/quote]

Now I know why you look so good… You’ve worked with some very knowledgeable people. If that’s the case, I would definitely concentrate on getting stronger, this will help with the thickness over time and slowly try to add more volume to your mountain dog training.

Trust me about the Plazma… It’s a different animal! Even though some of the ingredients are similar it’s not comparable and I’m not sure if you’ve experienced the nauseous feeling with glycofuse but with Plazma you won’t have this at all. The pumps and recovery are remarkably better. Give it a try and let me know what you think. If you are doing Humalog preworkout with the Plazma you will see impressive mass gains without a doubt.

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[quote]p00fyy wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
d.[quote]
Hey thanks a lot for the help and taking time out to answer all my questions. I like the idea of 10 day cycles for a routine and am going to start doing that soon.[/quote]

Happy you like it. At 17, you are on the right track and have great potential so keep pushing hard and keep me posted on progress.
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Hell yeah I’ll keep you posted. If you’re still on here in a couple months I’ll post up my stats and a couple pics.[/quote]

Planning on sticking around as long as I’m welcome here

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[quote]osu122975 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
I wouldn’t worry about the 1600, the tests will be out of range even in with a low dosage like 200mg/week. If you don’t have any health problems or specific sensitivities to the test then you could definitely blast and cruise long term without any serious health risks. I know lots of people who do it for years on end and I’m assuming you are a healthy guy.

The only issue is that it might cause some fertility issues if you aren’t using it with HCG, but if you aren’t planning on having anymore kids then it’s not a huge issue. In your cruise you could add 250iu of HCG 2x/ week if you want.
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Done having kids or at least trying to have kids so I’m safe there. No problems at all w/ health. Thanks so much for the info. It was a major help.
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You’re welcome, I hope everything goes well and I’ll be here if you need anymore help.

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What about the prohormones known as superdrol, M1T and epistane?

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Purely hypothetical, if one were to be offered pharma brand hgh at $10 per iu… does that sound legit? Without lab testing one has no way of knowing.

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Thank you very much for the reply on my last couple of questions my last cycle was after my competition with systanon 300, 200mg E3D and Dbol 50mg every day i did a PCT Clomifen 50mg a day and proviron 50mg for 14 days HCG 5000 3 injections EOD this is the only one in bulgaria we got so now i em off for 4 Months what do you think about the cycle i can give you my diet and training and more detailed backround.

and another question about Intraworkout supplement
i em from Bulgaria and we don’t have any Biotest supps so is there any other with a simillar effect and igridient i know that you say there is no other but somthing that i can use like Glycofuse or Intra-Fuel vitargo?

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What do you think about creatine is it even worth buying or should I save that money for food

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Ranjanman wrote:
Hey shadow. Been reading all your posts.you are clearly intelligent and have many years of experience.
I was wondering if you can help me out to reach my goals.

I plan on competing in men’s physique next year.so lots of room for improvement. I have decided to make my career path fitness oriented. I cannot see myself living without working out it had become my addiction :slight_smile:

I’m 20 years old 5’11 174 lbs. 7% bf. see avi
Ive been training for 3 years. 2 out of the 3 were serious.my diet is really good keep food clean. With high protein moderate carbs and low fat

I’ve ran 2 cycles.

My first cycle was test e. For 12 weeks with superdrol for 4 weeks
I went from 160 to 176 then after pct i was at 172

Currently on my 2nd cycle. Bulked for 8 weeks. Got to 183 12% bf.
Now cutting on my 16th week

Currently on test p 100 ed
Anavar 50 mg ed
Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
Clen 140 Mcg ed (2 week on 1 week off)
50 mg t3 ed

I’m down to 7-8% or so (see avi) I plan to cut until 6% bf

Then blast and pack on mass. This is where I need your help. For my next blast my source only has
Sust,test E P and C,equipoise,tbol,var,primo

He won’t have any other compound avail for awhile

What would you say the best mass gainer cycle would be with these compounds ?

I was thinking

Weeks 1 to 10
Test e 600 mg a week
Eq 750 mg a week
Tbol 50 mg for 6 weeks

Week 10 to 22
Test 750
Eq 900

Than cruise on 200 mg test e for a while ( I plan to stay on)

That would mean including the cycle I am on now I would have been for gear and the one I am planning
I’ll be on for around 44 weeks than cruise for 7 weeks

Do you think it would be better for my gains if I did a power pct after my cruise and stay off for 2 months before going back on ?

Sorry for the essay lol. I am asking a lot of questions in one reply instead of multiple

Thanks shadow keep doing your thing man!!

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Thanks for all of the in depth info and I appreciate the honesty. However, I cannot see your picture so could you post it on here so I can see who I’m dealing with.

Here a few thoughts I have just from reading this…
-for a 20yr old these dosages are way too high (even for anyone’s 2nd cycle this would be crazy)
-the cycle is all over the place, some of these compounds shouldn’t be here at all
-you’re planning your cycles based on what your source has available… A big no-no… Find someone else!
-44 weeks!! And then cruise for 7 weeks… That’s a year!!! You are only 20 and if you are thinking about long term this is not the way to go about it. Imagine how much you will have to take when your 30, in the assumption your liver and kidneys are still up for the abuse.

I’m not trying to be an asshole but if I were you then I would want someone to warn me. In the long run these dosages won’t make you look better, only worse. We can fix this, but you need to be willing to listen and ready to take this on as a long journey. Please post your photos, diet and training and we’ll go from there.

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My diet at the moment is a cutting diet
Low carb high protein low fat. And high carbs on the weekend

Traning

Monday- chest 14 sets total. 12 to 10 reps. And biceps 10 sets
Trues back and tris.
We’d. Shoulders
Thurs off
Fri chest and arms
Saturday off
Sun leg day

Been on my current cycle for 20 weeks

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Shadow,

You have mentioned often how anybody within the 15-20% bf range should not go on gear. Is this directed at those who plan to be bbers? What about strength competitors (like myself) whose main concern is not leanness. Or is it having too much adipose fat tissue.

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Thanks for taking the time to answer all the questions asked on here sir.

If you don’t mind, a few short questions for you.

  1. At 50-75mcg T3 per day, would you recommend splitting the dose or taking all at once? This has always confused me, because T3 has a half life of 2.5 days, but at the same time apparently it’s almost completely absorbed by the body within 4 hours. So I don’t know if I should split the dose or not?

  2. Any experience with cissus for joint/tendon support? Also are you fan of MSM/Glucosamine/Chondrotin? Many people seem not get much from the combo.

  3. I know you mentioned earlier that you like Tren/Test during the off-season. Tren/Test is also my favourite combo to grow on. Though I am often told by other competitors that Tren should used during contest prep over the off-season for a few reasons. First being that Tren is too toxic and second being that the body will not respond as well it should to Tren pre-contest, since it’s being exposed to it throughout the off-season is. What’s your take on this? I personally have better blood pressure and feel healthier in the off-season using something like Tren/Test over Deca/Test, since I tend to hold a lot less water with the Tren/Test combo.

  4. If I were not to use Tren in the off-season, which injectable would you recommend stacking with Test? I am not a big fan of deca either, so my two options are pretty much EQ or NPP. Any input on NPP? To be honest, I’ve used EQ several times and I don’t find it to effective aside from increasing vasularity and appetite.

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Hey Shadow Pro,

What would you say is the most effective way to take insulin and best dosage?
Currently have been using it pre workout with a workout protocol, but have heard of a number of people using it first thing in the morning as well as postworkout.
As well best timing to take gh? been using it just first thing in the morning at around 3-4iu to help with keeping a lean body mass

Thank you!

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[quote]realflemishlion wrote:
What about the prohormones known as superdrol, M1T and epistane? [/quote]

I’ve mentioned a few times that I’m not big on prohormones… I’ve tried a few things years ago and I’m not a big fan, better to put your money towards the real thing or quality supplements. You never know what you are actually getting in terms of ingredients and amounts, not to mention the side effects can be worse than the real drugs.

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[quote]rhod wrote:
Purely hypothetical, if one were to be offered pharma brand hgh at $10 per iu… does that sound legit? Without lab testing one has no way of knowing.[/quote]

Sounds legitimate, it’s within a ballpark range. These should NOT look like blue tops, make sure you are getting original packaging. They should come in pens or viles with original labeling. Stay away from anything unmarked. You might even be able to check serial numbers online or call and check directly with the company.

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[quote]Quadrociraptor wrote:
Thank you very much for the reply on my last couple of questions my last cycle was after my competition with systanon 300, 200mg E3D and Dbol 50mg every day i did a PCT Clomifen 50mg a day and proviron 50mg for 14 days HCG 5000 3 injections EOD this is the only one in bulgaria we got so now i em off for 4 Months what do you think about the cycle i can give you my diet and training and more detailed backround.

and another question about Intraworkout supplement
i em from Bulgaria and we don’t have any Biotest supps so is there any other with a simillar effect and igridient i know that you say there is no other but somthing that i can use like Glycofuse or Intra-Fuel vitargo?
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I will say it over and over again that nothing will give you a similar effect. I’m sure that you can have the Plazma shipped to Bulgaria, they ship worldwide from the T-Nation store. If you are able to find steroids there, I don’t think Plazma will be the issue :slight_smile:

How long was your cycle? Did you mean Sustanon? If this is what you meant, then you did way too much HCG for such a low dosage. Something more like 1000iu every 3rd day for 6 weeks post cycle. If the HCG is coming in 5000iu viles you can just preload all of the syringes and use them separately rather than 5000 all in one shot. I’m guessing you might have done this because you had the schering snap tops

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[quote]Ranjanman wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Ranjanman wrote:
Hey shadow. Been reading all your posts.you are clearly intelligent and have many years of experience.
I was wondering if you can help me out to reach my goals.

I plan on competing in men’s physique next year.so lots of room for improvement. I have decided to make my career path fitness oriented. I cannot see myself living without working out it had become my addiction :slight_smile:

I’m 20 years old 5’11 174 lbs. 7% bf. see avi
Ive been training for 3 years. 2 out of the 3 were serious.my diet is really good keep food clean. With high protein moderate carbs and low fat

I’ve ran 2 cycles.

My first cycle was test e. For 12 weeks with superdrol for 4 weeks
I went from 160 to 176 then after pct i was at 172

Currently on my 2nd cycle. Bulked for 8 weeks. Got to 183 12% bf.
Now cutting on my 16th week

Currently on test p 100 ed
Anavar 50 mg ed
Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
Clen 140 Mcg ed (2 week on 1 week off)
50 mg t3 ed

I’m down to 7-8% or so (see avi) I plan to cut until 6% bf

Then blast and pack on mass. This is where I need your help. For my next blast my source only has
Sust,test E P and C,equipoise,tbol,var,primo

He won’t have any other compound avail for awhile

What would you say the best mass gainer cycle would be with these compounds ?

I was thinking

Weeks 1 to 10
Test e 600 mg a week
Eq 750 mg a week
Tbol 50 mg for 6 weeks

Week 10 to 22
Test 750
Eq 900

Than cruise on 200 mg test e for a while ( I plan to stay on)

That would mean including the cycle I am on now I would have been for gear and the one I am planning
I’ll be on for around 44 weeks than cruise for 7 weeks

Do you think it would be better for my gains if I did a power pct after my cruise and stay off for 2 months before going back on ?

Sorry for the essay lol. I am asking a lot of questions in one reply instead of multiple

Thanks shadow keep doing your thing man!!

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Thanks for all of the in depth info and I appreciate the honesty. However, I cannot see your picture so could you post it on here so I can see who I’m dealing with.

Here a few thoughts I have just from reading this…
-for a 20yr old these dosages are way too high (even for anyone’s 2nd cycle this would be crazy)
-the cycle is all over the place, some of these compounds shouldn’t be here at all
-you’re planning your cycles based on what your source has available… A big no-no… Find someone else!
-44 weeks!! And then cruise for 7 weeks… That’s a year!!! You are only 20 and if you are thinking about long term this is not the way to go about it. Imagine how much you will have to take when your 30, in the assumption your liver and kidneys are still up for the abuse.

I’m not trying to be an asshole but if I were you then I would want someone to warn me. In the long run these dosages won’t make you look better, only worse. We can fix this, but you need to be willing to listen and ready to take this on as a long journey. Please post your photos, diet and training and we’ll go from there.

[/quote]

My diet at the moment is a cutting diet
Low carb high protein low fat. And high carbs on the weekend

Traning

Monday- chest 14 sets total. 12 to 10 reps. And biceps 10 sets
Trues back and tris.
We’d. Shoulders
Thurs off
Fri chest and arms
Saturday off
Sun leg day

Been on my current cycle for 20 weeks

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Too long of a cycle, dosage are too high and there is no need for so many drugs in men’s physique. You are on the road to shutting yourself down completely. You’re 20 years old and a 44 week cycle is unacceptable (I’m not your dad but this post is going to sound like it)

Come off the cycle, do a good pct, learn to train and diet without drugs, buy quality supplements. I refuse to give cycle advise and fuck up the life of a 20 year old who is taking more drugs than many high level bodybuilders I know. A 6 pack is not an achievement from this cycle, you can look like this on a bikini girls diet with no drugs. I don’t know you but with the way you look after 20weeks on with so much Clen and t3 I can see there is no way your training and diet are anywhere close to being where they need to be.

Creatine is a perfectly good supplement if you cycle on and off, as long as your diet and training are on target.

Sorry to be harsh but this is the way I see it.

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For someone that wants to run a cycle, what is the best resource to learn the appropriate information to maintain safety and health? Many sites on the internet can offer conflicting information and becomes confusing. I want to ensure I’m doing the best thing for my body if I run a cycle, peptides, GH, etc.

Also - is there a way to find a reputable coach that is educated to keep my health and safety at top of priority? Speaking on providing advice based on cycle proposed based on my own research.

Love this thread. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Quadrociraptor wrote:
Thank you very much for the reply on my last couple of questions my last cycle was after my competition with systanon 300, 200mg E3D and Dbol 50mg every day i did a PCT Clomifen 50mg a day and proviron 50mg for 14 days HCG 5000 3 injections EOD this is the only one in bulgaria we got so now i em off for 4 Months what do you think about the cycle i can give you my diet and training and more detailed backround.

and another question about Intraworkout supplement
i em from Bulgaria and we don’t have any Biotest supps so is there any other with a simillar effect and igridient i know that you say there is no other but somthing that i can use like Glycofuse or Intra-Fuel vitargo?
[/quote]

I will say it over and over again that nothing will give you a similar effect. I’m sure that you can have the Plazma shipped to Bulgaria, they ship worldwide from the T-Nation store. If you are able to find steroids there, I don’t think Plazma will be the issue :slight_smile:

How long was your cycle? Did you mean Sustanon? If this is what you meant, then you did way too much HCG for such a low dosage. Something more like 1000iu every 3rd day for 6 weeks post cycle. If the HCG is coming in 5000iu viles you can just preload all of the syringes and use them separately rather than 5000 all in one shot. I’m guessing you might have done this because you had the schering snap tops
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The plazma comes to expensive for me to buy it from here so thats i search something like this well i ment sustanon yes the cycle was from january till the begining of this mounth i started my prep january
did sustanon 250, 100mg a week with EQ 100mg and Dbol 20mg,second week i did incresed the doses little to 200mg EQ and sus. dbol to 30mg then from the forth week i decresed them to the 1 doses got HCG 5000 in two shots only one was used with 10 days rest then did another 5 weeks of Test P 200mg a week and 200mg EQ with 40mg Dbol for another 4 weeks took nolvadex 10mg a day two started ephedryne Ephedrine then changed then we changed the cycle with Mast 100mg E4D Tri-tren 100mg E4D and stanozolol 40mg a day with T3 25mcg(µg)(I don’t know if µg is mcg sry) 1 Tab before cardio got it up to 50mcg for 3weeks then changed 2 weeks before the show i belive to Wini and test S 100mg EOD with anapolon i don’t remember the dosage here then did the cycle i gave you and the PCT