[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
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Thank you very much for your time and caring enough to start this dialogue.
A pardon to everyone for me being new here. Been a customer of T-Nation and reader for years. It is about time I posted.
I have read every single First Time Cycle post on this site. But your opinion matters and I greatly appreciate your time in advance.
39 years old. Genetically not gifted. I am mainly ecto with tiny bit of Meso. Thinner bone structure, (ankles, wrists) not pure Mesomorph by any stretch.
I am 181 pounds and right at 11% BF skinfold 15.3%(exascan) Highest BF I have bee in years due to eating so much with my new diet over past year and reducing cardio to bulk. Been training exclusively bodybuilding style 5 days per week for 2 years. Before that Olympic Lifts and general weightlifting for fitness for 12 years as a military Captain. My conditioning was insane, maintained 8% BF year-round for years. But my training was mainly catabolic obviously. Strict diet planned by a IFBB Pro Coach for past 12 months.
I have access to a top TRT doc in California. Arguably the guy to go to.
He wants me to start a basic protocol and monitor me to see how I react to sides and to the stuff. My test levels are normal. My general health is perfect so far thankfully. Cholesterol, thyroid, liver all perfect. No history of diabetes or cancer in family. He said he will make me 26 years old again in terms of hormone profile and then maintain and monitor me. Is this a waste of time? The smart way to do it? I HIGHLY doubt he will give me Tren, high doses of Test or many of the other compounds in your first cycle recommendation. Probably not GH either.
My goal is to be around 200 pounds at 10% year round and then for summers like every other fool cut down to 190. I have no desire to be bigger than that or be stage ready. Is this sustainable and doable through training alone at my age? I am VERY committed, eat very strict and train at a very high intensity and monitor rest religiously.
Or will it help to be on a lighter TRT protocol or another heavier cycle?
If you think another cycle cycle would help, what would you recommend for my case?
Really appreciate your guidance and opinion.
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Great Post! Thank you for sharing all of your information with me, I’ll be happy to share my ideas with you.
First of all, the goals your mentioned are very achievable. Since you are strict on your diet and very experienced in your training then I see no issue in starting a small cycle to help you progress.
I don’t recall giving first cycle advise in any general statement(correct me if I’m wrong) I will only speak for myself and what I know that other pros are taking which is NOT recommend for other people. I like to give advise on a case to case basis because that’s the only way you get the right information.
To help you get your goals (without knowing your current diet, which could affect the cycle) I would try something like this:
GH 2-4iu/day (2iu in morning 45 min before breakfast, 2iu 20min before training session)
*at your age I think the GH can assist in recovery, fat burning and general health
Test-E (250mg/week) 12-16weeks
HCG 250iu every 3rd day
Mast-E 300mg/week 12-16weeks
The testosterone will help you gain mass, strength and help you in your training. The masteron will allow you to keep a “hard” look and it’s a mild anti-estrogen.
I would use the trt guy to monitor your blood tests and hormone profile. I am only going to assume that he will give you less than 250mg/week and in order for any physique improvement you will need a minimum of what I suggested… If he will give you this then by all means go for it! When someone has a perfect diet, training past and good health profile like yourself, I see no reason not to try a cycle like this. It will take you to your goal with ease. You’re 39 with 12 years of training under your belt I’d say you’ve earned your right to give it a shot.
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Wow! Thank you so much! Incredibly informative.
4 follow up inquiries about your first cycle recommendation for me.
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Estrogen control and PCT. I know you recommended HCG intra cycle. I have a tiny bit of gyno right now. Barely noticeable but it does bother me. I even went to top plastic surgeons in Southern California and they both said it was hardly anything and they refused to do surgery on it they said the risks were not worth it as it was so small. But my point is I am concerned for bitch tits as a result of any cycle. No one else in family has this by the way. I would be grateful at your further thoughts (if any) on a proper intra cycle estrogen side prevention and PCT for me.
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Based on your educated guess the cycle which you recommend how often would I have to repeat this to maintain that 190-200 with 10% BF year-round? Once a year. Every other year? I assume there is no such thing as you do one cycle and you are set for 10 years (ha!) so any insight on this with an educated guess would be so helpful. I don’t have any muscle wasting and my metabolism is average to good. I am not shredded year round without training and I am not naturally Dexter Jackson style.
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With such “low” dosages of 250 test per week, do you recommend injecting them once per week in the Glute area? Dividing it up to two doses of 125? I am hoping to prevent that 2 day high then feeling lousy with a drop-off the rest of the week until my next injection. Not sure if this is applicable to such low dosages.
Thank you so much again. Please let us know if there is anything I can do to show support even though you prefer to stay anonymous. If there was a Paypal donate or whatever I would contribute for sure as a sign of appreciation.