@pit. - firstly your comment had nothing to do with my post. Secondly. I don’t work out hard anymore. It’s kind of difficult with two compound tibial fractures, a tibial nail from the knee to the ankle, a shattered ankle, two fractured fibulas, A displaced medial base of the first metatarsal, fracture of pronominal base of right metatarsal, t10 compression fracture of the thoracic vertebrae. S1 and s5 bulging lumbar discs, a fractured eye socket, sternum broken in two separate places, a broken nose teeth and finger together with completely fucked knees.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
@pit. - firstly your comment had nothing to do with my post. Secondly. I don’t work out hard anymore. It’s kind of difficult with two compound tibial fractures, a tibial nail from the knee to the ankle, a shattered ankle, two fractured fibulas, A displaced medial base of the first metatarsal, fracture of pronominal base of right metatarsal, t10 compression fracture of the thoracic vertebrae. S1 and s5 bulging lumbar discs, a fractured eye socket, sternum broken in two separate places, a broken nose teeth and finger together with completely fucked knees. [/quote]
I am sorry for your medical problems, I like to compare my work out to masterbation meaning if it does not feel good don’t do it 
I work out every day , some days really hard some days , I just limber up. I have really worked on mobility in the last few years and I feel more mobile and flexible than i have ever been . Not meaning to gloat, Get well my friend
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Are CEO’s worth the money they are paid? [/quote]
Yes. Otherwise they would be paid less.
You are assuming that their pay is based upon on certain things. Would destroying a company long-term for short-term gains be one of them? How about all the bank C.E.O.'s who almost ended the economy for their personal gain? Do actors and musicians have that kind of power?
Are actors worth what they are paid?
They wouldn’t be paid as such if they didn’t bring in the revenue for the studio. They need to have a proven track record to make such demands.
What about Jay-Z?
All the leftist complain about is the “CEO makes too much” but never bother to address their beloved Hollywood makes equally outrageous amounts of money. [/quote]
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
You are assuming that their pay is based upon on certain things.[/quote]
I’m not assuming, I am knowing, that in fact, yes they are paid “for certain things”.
That would be utterly moronic of them, particularly those that garner very high salaries.
Lets see, logic 101…
“destroy” the company that pays me a couple a million a year so I only get paid for two years, or try and maintain a healthy long lived company that can pay me millions for decades…
hmmm. Tough choice.
Jesus lol. This is common sense.
That didn’t happen, but I’m talking to a stone right now, so I’m not going to bother to elaborate here.
So it’s a power thing, and not an “actors & musicians tend to be leftist just like myself, so I don’t hold them to the same standards as other people” thing?
Sure, sure…
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Are CEO’s worth the money they are paid? Who says a doctor should not make more than a janitor? More red herrings.[/quote]
Ah…maybe because a doctor spent six years at college, worked as an intern for 24 hours a day and spent the next fucking ten years of his life paying off his student fees? Maybe something like that? And maybe the janitor had a low intelligence, fucked around at school and left school before he could read? Yah think anything like that?..ever?[/quote]
I don’t think you read his post correctly…unless I didn’t. I thought he was asking if CEO’s are worth the money they are paid, and no one is arguing a doctor should not make more than a janitor.
Unless I misread it.
I’d love to find the dumbass who thinks doctors and janitors should make the same amount though. That kind of stupidity may be worth the death penalty.*
*“In b4 Obama does he’s a socialist.”
Honestly if Obama is a socialist he is the most unsuccessful socialist in history. And if you’re a lefty you outta be downright pissed at him since wealth inequality is higher with him than GWB.
All kidding aside tell me no one ACTUALLY thinks janitors and doctors should be paid the same in this entire country. I can’t think of anything worse for sick people short of shooting them in the head.
Oh yeah I missed the red herring. I still deserve a doctor’s pay though.
I missed the red herring part. I still deserve the same pay as doctors though.
Her it is
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Are CEO’s worth the money they are paid? Who says a doctor should not make more than a janitor? More red herrings.[/quote]
Ah…maybe because a doctor spent six years at college, worked as an intern for 24 hours a day and spent the next fucking ten years of his life paying off his student fees? Maybe something like that? And maybe the janitor had a low intelligence, fucked around at school and left school before he could read? Yah think anything like that?..ever?[/quote]
Please show me where people are suggesting janitors make as much as doctors.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
You are assuming that their pay is based upon on certain things.[/quote]
I’m not assuming, I am knowing, that in fact, yes they are paid “for certain things”.
Most CEO’s average a 4 year tenure, so not even 1 decade so your point is moot.
Read share holder first corporate business philosophy for a greater understanding of how the real world works.
That would be utterly moronic of them, particularly those that garner very high salaries.
Lets see, logic 101…
“destroy” the company that pays me a couple a million a year so I only get paid for two years, or try and maintain a healthy long lived company that can pay me millions for decades…
hmmm. Tough choice.
Jesus lol. This is common sense.
That didn’t happen, but I’m talking to a stone right now, so I’m not going to bother to elaborate here.
So it’s a power thing, and not an “actors & musicians tend to be leftist just like myself, so I don’t hold them to the same standards as other people” thing?
Sure, sure… [/quote]
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Most CEO’s average a 4 year tenure, so not even 1 decade so your point is moot.
Read share holder first corporate business philosophy for a greater understanding of how the real world works.
[/quote]
ummm… Seeing what I do for a living, I’m going to go out on that proverbial limb and assume I have a much better understanding of how the real world works than you do.
Nice appeal to authority though.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Most CEO’s average a 4 year tenure, so not even 1 decade so your point is moot.
Read share holder first corporate business philosophy for a greater understanding of how the real world works.
[/quote]
ummm… Seeing what I do for a living, I’m going to go out on that proverbial limb and assume I have a much better understanding of how the real world works than you do.
Nice appeal to authority though. [/quote]
A few bad apples does not equate all CEOs destroying their company for immediate gain.
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Most CEO’s average a 4 year tenure, so not even 1 decade so your point is moot.
Read share holder first corporate business philosophy for a greater understanding of how the real world works.
[/quote]
ummm… Seeing what I do for a living, I’m going to go out on that proverbial limb and assume I have a much better understanding of how the real world works than you do.
Nice appeal to authority though. [/quote]
A few bad apples does not equate all CEOs destroying their company for immediate gain. [/quote]
I’m not buying his “average 4 years” number either. He needs to define his terms in order for that figure to even be considered remotely accurate. Because as ti stands it is wildly inaccurate, lol.
Unless my firm works for all the companies that retain upper management in the US.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Most CEO’s average a 4 year tenure, so not even 1 decade so your point is moot.
Read share holder first corporate business philosophy for a greater understanding of how the real world works.
[/quote]
ummm… Seeing what I do for a living, I’m going to go out on that proverbial limb and assume I have a much better understanding of how the real world works than you do.
Nice appeal to authority though. [/quote]
A few bad apples does not equate all CEOs destroying their company for immediate gain. [/quote]
I’m not buying his “average 4 years” number either. He needs to define his terms in order for that figure to even be considered remotely accurate. Because as ti stands it is wildly inaccurate, lol.
Unless my firm works for all the companies that retain upper management in the US. [/quote]
I also forgot to note CEO’s typically do not act unilaterally. All public companies have boards and governance committees designed to challenge, review, and approve actions.
I get where he is coming from with the “Shareholder first” mantra. That used to be the BIG thing, but now, the more successful companies address all stakeholders: Shareholders, employees, and external parties (think environment, community, etc)
[quote]kappa927 wrote:
According to this gov publication the total number of workers making at or below the federal minimum wage was 3.6 million, which includes workers whose income includes tips (waiters etc.). Of these, half are under 25.
So, adults making minimum wage comprise about 1.5% of all workers in the U.S.
So why is it so important to focus on raising the minimum wage? 98.5% of workers already make more than the federal minimum. When news came out that several million would have their health insurance policies canceled surrounding the ACA, the white house response was that this was ok because “the vast majority” were not affected.
Not looking to get into a debate over the moral imperative of raising wages, but even if you think the minimum wage should be raised, how can the topic even be in the top 100 on the federal governments to-do-list? [/quote]
Because the public dialogue is dominated by 100+ year old economic theories about other countries (mostly central/eastern European). These are the mainstay of any college-educated person. The Press – who more often than not comprises of people who have flunked out of serious academic work and ended up in the Journalism School are uniquely incapable of understanding the world around them or interpreting it. Hence we get to see public debates in the US that dies out long ago anywhere else because we have had no new public ideas in 50 years.
Oh and the other side of this is the inability to read and understand even the most basic statistics. Few who write about this in the Press would have thought to look at such a publication and understanding it would be darned close to impossible by and large. The Press’ role in public discourse, apparently, is to stupefy the dialogue to the point they sound like they are oh so informed and can therefore sell more papers/TV ads.
As always, I might just be full of shit…
– jj
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Most CEO’s average a 4 year tenure, so not even 1 decade so your point is moot.
Read share holder first corporate business philosophy for a greater understanding of how the real world works.
[/quote]
ummm… Seeing what I do for a living, I’m going to go out on that proverbial limb and assume I have a much better understanding of how the real world works than you do.
Nice appeal to authority though. [/quote]
Beans I must admit , you are very full of your self .
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Most CEO’s average a 4 year tenure, so not even 1 decade so your point is moot.
Read share holder first corporate business philosophy for a greater understanding of how the real world works.
[/quote]
ummm… Seeing what I do for a living, I’m going to go out on that proverbial limb and assume I have a much better understanding of how the real world works than you do.
Nice appeal to authority though. [/quote]
Beans I must admit , you are very full of your self .
[/quote]
Lol, yes, because pointing out experience and education in the field we are discussing is suddenly some great act of arrogance.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Most CEO’s average a 4 year tenure, so not even 1 decade so your point is moot.
Read share holder first corporate business philosophy for a greater understanding of how the real world works.
[/quote]
ummm… Seeing what I do for a living, I’m going to go out on that proverbial limb and assume I have a much better understanding of how the real world works than you do.
Nice appeal to authority though. [/quote]
Beans I must admit , you are very full of your self .
[/quote]
Lol, yes, because pointing out experience and education in the field we are discussing is suddenly some great act of arrogance.
[/quote]
I don’t want to burst your bubble , but the only thing you have over any one , I heard you debase , is your education . If Mom and Dad bought that for you ,You should kiss their ass . If you did it on my dime you should kiss my ass . If you did it on your own kudos . But you still are not (ALL THAT) sorry
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
If you did it on my dime you should kiss my ass .
[/quote]
This is why socialism is so loved-it’s like a passive-aggressive form of slavery.
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
If you did it on my dime you should kiss my ass .
[/quote]
This is why socialism is so loved-it’s like a passive-aggressive form of slavery.[/quote]
Sorry Nick , we disagree .