Shoulda shot em.
Would have saved the taxpayers money.
Those guy sound like they have life-time criminal written all over them.
[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
Shoulda shot em.
Would have saved the taxpayers money.
Those guy sound like they have life-time criminal written all over them.[/quote]
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[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
Shoulda shot em.
Would have saved the taxpayers money.
Those guy sound like they have life-time criminal written all over them.[/quote]
We have the technology to test for psycho/sociopathy these days.
We should just test all criminals for it and automatically execute the ones that fail.
I’m listening to the 911 call and I have to say I admire the guy’s restraint in dealing with the 911 dispatchers.
Every time he talks to a new voice on the line she asks him the exact same questions he’d already answered to everyone he’d talked to before.
How many times does he have to tell them it’s a champagne coloured Toyota camry!?
Or… that they shot his dog?
I think he’s told them three times now that they shot his dog and are in a champagne-coloured Toyota Camry.
Stop asking questions and dispatch some cops up the road, would ya!?
[quote]SeanParent wrote:
YES…there are plenty of people singing praises for Bin Laden who was the head of an organized attack that took out over 3k INNOCENT Americans. And Yes There are plenty of people still to this day singing praises for Hitler who single handedly started a world war, and just so happen killed( what was it like 7million INNOCENT Jews, gypsies, and other minorities)
Well Played…very well played. [/quote]
I take it that “INNOCENT Americans” and “INNOCENT Jews, gypsies, and other minorities” are somehow more worthy than all the innocent Iraqis.
[quote]irish20cb wrote:
Lixy,
Whether or not Marcus Lutrell is a hero or not isn’t really up for debate. To cite Merriam-Webster, a hero is defined as the following: b: an illustrious warrior
c: a man admired for his achievements and noble qualities
d: one that shows great courage
Lutrell and his fellow SEALs embody each one of those and then some.
Everytime I read the kind of drivel people like you put out there it’s initially upsetting and a little unsettling to me, but I eventually take comfort in the fact that the vast majority of clear thinking individuals in this county and others don’t buy into it. It takes courage to join the military, but it takes a level of dedication, perseverance, selflessness and yes heroism that most human beings are incapable of to live the life of a U.S. Navy SEAL[/quote]
Ah nonsense, it just takes a draft system and everyone joins the military.
Heroes, we were not.
Just bored and drunk most of the time.
[quote]orion wrote:
irish20cb wrote:
Lixy,
Whether or not Marcus Lutrell is a hero or not isn’t really up for debate. To cite Merriam-Webster, a hero is defined as the following: b: an illustrious warrior
c: a man admired for his achievements and noble qualities
d: one that shows great courage
Lutrell and his fellow SEALs embody each one of those and then some.
Everytime I read the kind of drivel people like you put out there it’s initially upsetting and a little unsettling to me, but I eventually take comfort in the fact that the vast majority of clear thinking individuals in this county and others don’t buy into it. It takes courage to join the military, but it takes a level of dedication, perseverance, selflessness and yes heroism that most human beings are incapable of to live the life of a U.S. Navy SEAL
Ah nonsense, it just takes a draft system and everyone joins the military.
Heroes, we were not.
Just bored and drunk most of the time.
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Orion,
I agree with your statement about the draft…but I was referring, in my statement, to anyone joining an all-volunteer military. And the “hero” aspect of my statement I reserved not for the rank and file…though I respect and admire every one of them…but for the truly elite warriors who know it’s not a matter of “if” they’ll be sent into harms way, but “when”
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
If only Morality was as black and white as some believe it to be…
But it can be.
Ethical reciprocity. None should take any more or less than they give.
Those that do are easy to deal with.
“A sadist is just a masochist who follows the golden rule.” That ring a bell??[/quote]
This is not the golden rule. This is the idea that people are to be treated how they want to be treated; however, none have the right to better treatment than they give others.
If you go around looking for fights and you are constantly getting your ass kicked it is because you deserve it. That is ethical reciprocity and it is as basic as breathing.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Travacolypse wrote:
I don’t know a whole lot, but I know that in the course of voluntarily serving his country, that man suffered more than you can ever imagine.
I don’t care. We as human beings choose our own fate. These guys joined the military thinking they were going to be some sort of elite killing studs and they got killed themselves. Tough shit.
Furthermore, I’ll contend that these “elite” special forces members are lower than dirt. The stuff they do amounts to the most immoral thing a human can do – killing people that don’t even know they are being targeted. I don’t buy the idea that they died serving their country. It’s complete bullshit.
Real self-defense that results in death is done face-to-face like men – not like terrorists.[/quote]
If you ever said such bullshit in my presence, then you could count on tryin to defend yourself “face-to-face like men”. And since you have no respect for people who die for their country, I wanna ask you, how do you feel about people who die for disrespecting people who die for their country?
[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
So does anyone have a legitimate argument against Lift? I see a lot of name calling and finger pointing. He makes a valid point.
What our wars are fought for, have absolutely nothing to do with my beliefs. I do not consider men who volunteer to do things I do not like “heroes”. Even if they are bonafied badasses for doing them[/quote]
This current war we’re fighting isn’t protecting your beliefs? I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure if the extremists who we’re fighting against had their way, you wouldn’t even be allowed a computer to post on this forum. And if you were permitted a computer, they’d probably saw your head off while using your computer’s webcam so all their buddies could watch.
[quote]TxCASH wrote:
If you ever said such bullshit in my presence, then you could count on tryin to defend yourself “face-to-face like men”. [/quote]
Then you admit you are nothing more than a common thug who uses violence against people whose ideas you do not agree with. Your kind is easily dealt with.
You would be handled like a gnat buzzing about my ear – swiftly and with no emotion.
Threatening violence against someone who has done none to you is the stupidest thing you can do.
[quote]TxCASH wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
So does anyone have a legitimate argument against Lift? I see a lot of name calling and finger pointing. He makes a valid point.
What our wars are fought for, have absolutely nothing to do with my beliefs. I do not consider men who volunteer to do things I do not like “heroes”. Even if they are bonafied badasses for doing them
This current war we’re fighting isn’t protecting your beliefs? I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure if the extremists who we’re fighting against had their way, you wouldn’t even be allowed a computer to post on this forum. And if you were permitted a computer, they’d probably saw your head off while using your computer’s webcam so all their buddies could watch.[/quote]
The way I see it is you are the terrorist. You have already threatened violence against someone’s words you do not agree with.
Your kind is the kind that would take men to their graves for nothing more than their ego trip and emotional immaturity.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
So does anyone have a legitimate argument against Lift? I see a lot of name calling and finger pointing. He makes a valid point.
What our wars are fought for, have absolutely nothing to do with my beliefs. I do not consider men who volunteer to do things I do not like “heroes”. Even if they are bonafied badasses for doing them
This current war we’re fighting isn’t protecting your beliefs? I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure if the extremists who we’re fighting against had their way, you wouldn’t even be allowed a computer to post on this forum. And if you were permitted a computer, they’d probably saw your head off while using your computer’s webcam so all their buddies could watch.
The way I see it is you are the terrorist. You have already threatened violence against someone’s words you do not agree with.
Your kind is the kind that would take men to their graves for nothing more than their ego trip and emotional immaturity.[/quote]
Being a terrorist has nothing to do with threatening violence against someone you don’t agree with. A terrorist uses violence against innocent people or the “soft” targets of a society in the hopes of acheiving some sort of political objective. Wanting to kick someone’s ass because they find them disgusting and disrespectful is something far different.
[quote]TxCASH wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
So does anyone have a legitimate argument against Lift? I see a lot of name calling and finger pointing. He makes a valid point.
What our wars are fought for, have absolutely nothing to do with my beliefs. I do not consider men who volunteer to do things I do not like “heroes”. Even if they are bonafied badasses for doing them
This current war we’re fighting isn’t protecting your beliefs? I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure if the extremists who we’re fighting against had their way, you wouldn’t even be allowed a computer to post on this forum. And if you were permitted a computer, they’d probably saw your head off while using your computer’s webcam so all their buddies could watch.[/quote]
There are also a lot of people in the United States that would love to attack and harm someone like me. From the sounds of it, you are one of them. Simply put, I just defend myself and am able to avoid danger. You act as if once the military is gone we are suddenly susceptible to terrorism. That is false, you are pretty good at being wrong. The military, as it stands, is used incorrectly and not in the benefit of the american people.
[quote]irish20cb wrote:
Being a terrorist has nothing to do with threatening violence against someone you don’t agree with. A terrorist uses violence against innocent people or the “soft” targets of a society in the hopes of acheiving some sort of political objective. Wanting to kick someone’s ass because they find them disgusting and disrespectful is something far different.
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You’re clueless and words are wasted on you.
[quote]irish20cb wrote:
Being a terrorist has nothing to do with threatening violence against someone you don’t agree with. A terrorist uses violence against innocent people or the “soft” targets of a society in the hopes of acheiving some sort of political objective. Wanting to kick someone’s ass because they find them disgusting and disrespectful is something far different. [/quote]
Terrorism is anything that causes - or is meant to cause - fear. “Threatening violence against someone you don’t agree with” fits that definition neatly.
But it’s so nice of you to stand by a bully like TxCASH.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
If you ever said such bullshit in my presence, then you could count on tryin to defend yourself “face-to-face like men”.
Then you admit you are nothing more than a common thug who uses violence against people whose ideas you do not agree with. Your kind is easily dealt with.
You would be handled like a gnat buzzing about my ear – swiftly and with no emotion.
Threatening violence against someone who has done none to you is the stupidest thing you can do.[/quote]
Yet, you also threatened violence against him. You speak as to point out all the irony in everyone’s posts, but at this moment, your post is just screaming irony. I find it funny that you spend so much time and effort on constructing arguments by so closely analyzing all the posts that disagree with YOU but don’t bother to realize that YOUR OWN post disagrees with you.
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
If you ever said such bullshit in my presence, then you could count on tryin to defend yourself “face-to-face like men”.
Then you admit you are nothing more than a common thug who uses violence against people whose ideas you do not agree with. Your kind is easily dealt with.
You would be handled like a gnat buzzing about my ear – swiftly and with no emotion.
Threatening violence against someone who has done none to you is the stupidest thing you can do.
Yet, you also threatened violence against him. You speak as to point out all the irony in everyone’s posts, but at this moment, your post is just screaming irony. I find it funny that you spend so much time and effort on constructing arguments by so closely analyzing all the posts that disagree with YOU but don’t bother to realize that YOUR OWN post disagrees with you.[/quote]
provide an example
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
Yet, you also threatened violence against him. You speak as to point out all the irony in everyone’s posts, but at this moment, your post is just screaming irony. I find it funny that you spend so much time and effort on constructing arguments by so closely analyzing all the posts that disagree with YOU but don’t bother to realize that YOUR OWN post disagrees with you.[/quote]
There is nothing ironic about defending against thuggery.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
Yet, you also threatened violence against him. You speak as to point out all the irony in everyone’s posts, but at this moment, your post is just screaming irony. I find it funny that you spend so much time and effort on constructing arguments by so closely analyzing all the posts that disagree with YOU but don’t bother to realize that YOUR OWN post disagrees with you.
There is nothing ironic about defending against thuggery.[/quote]
But there is irony about saying to defend against thuggery and criticizing soldiers. Your political views differ greatly, but you both want to do the same thing. Maybe your definitions on thuggery differ, but essentially, the soldiers, the real soldiers, are doing the same thing that you are saying should be done: defending against thuggery.