sSome brands do that to me and some don’t. I changed powders several times until i found one that didnt jack me up
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Incidentally the quality of the protein isn’t necessarily unrelated to the bacterial factor. (Human metabolism does not produce gas from protein: it is only bacterial metabolism that does this.)
There are different bacteria in the lower GI tract vs the upper. The problem well could come from undigested protein making it down far enough to reach the areas where gas-forming bacteria are, while a better protein might be absorbed well before that point.[/quote]
So based on that rationale, if my ass is clearing a room, I have gotten in enough protein?
Because some is passing by undigested, you know, left over from my body using as much as it could?
When I first started eating more protein, having the occasional whey shake, and hitting the metamucil, I had some pretty terrible farts. Went away seemingly on its own.
Now, once in a while, my poo smells like ammonia. Pretty sure I’m dying.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
Incidentally the quality of the protein isn’t necessarily unrelated to the bacterial factor. (Human metabolism does not produce gas from protein: it is only bacterial metabolism that does this.)
There are different bacteria in the lower GI tract vs the upper. The problem well could come from undigested protein making it down far enough to reach the areas where gas-forming bacteria are, while a better protein might be absorbed well before that point.
So based on that rationale, if my ass is clearing a room, I have gotten in enough protein?
Because some is passing by undigested, you know, left over from my body using as much as it could?[/quote]
I think the correct conclusion would be that of the protein type that you took in, given whatever other factors were present, that if you had taken in more of that protein at that time then at least some percentage of it also would have gone to those bacteria instead of being absorbed.
It would say nothing about whether perhaps, for example, half of whatever additional of that protein was taken might have been absorbed, or whether your intake for the day provided the most that could have been absorbed on that day. And of course if not being much or if not at all to the problem, it would say nothing about absorption at all really.
And it might not say much about absorption anyway. For all I know, maybe even if only 10% of the protein taken in made it to these bacteria, a whole lot of gas would be produced.
For sure it’s possible to have a lot of protein pass through unabsorbed and not be turned into gas. (Sometimes studies measure the nitrogen content of feces resulting from given food intake, and this basically is measuring how much protein was unabsorbed.) So really the amount of gas is speaking not so much of unabsorbed protein, but rather whether bacteria that form gas from protein are a prevalent in the individual case or not.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
Incidentally the quality of the protein isn’t necessarily unrelated to the bacterial factor. (Human metabolism does not produce gas from protein: it is only bacterial metabolism that does this.)
There are different bacteria in the lower GI tract vs the upper. The problem well could come from undigested protein making it down far enough to reach the areas where gas-forming bacteria are, while a better protein might be absorbed well before that point.
So based on that rationale, if my ass is clearing a room, I have gotten in enough protein?
Because some is passing by undigested, you know, left over from my body using as much as it could?
I think the correct conclusion would be that of the protein type that you took in, given whatever other factors were present, that if you had taken in more of that protein at that time then at least some percentage of it also would have gone to those bacteria instead of being absorbed.
It would say nothing about whether perhaps, for example, half of whatever additional of that protein was taken might have been absorbed, or whether your intake for the day provided the most that could have been absorbed on that day. And of course if not being much or if not at all to the problem, it would say nothing about absorption at all really.
And it might not say much about absorption anyway. For all I know, maybe even if only 10% of the protein taken in made it to these bacteria, a whole lot of gas would be produced.
For sure it’s possible to have a lot of protein pass through unabsorbed and not be turned into gas. (Sometimes studies measure the nitrogen content of feces resulting from given food intake, and this basically is measuring how much protein was unabsorbed.) So really the amount of gas is speaking not so much of unabsorbed protein, but rather whether bacteria that form gas from protein are a prevalent in the individual case or not.
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So it has nothing to do with efficiency. Oh well. Every few days I have serious bacteria, but some days I’m good.
Well no, it does have something to do with it, but just not enough to come to the above conclusion.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
The problem is that you have unsuitable microbial flora in your digestive tract.
How you change that, unfortunately I have no idea. Consuming probiotic products will not necessarily do it.[/quote]
I’ve found, for me at least, that Yogurt helps. I take some in the mornings and evenings. The farts and subsequent dirty looks have stopped. Well, people still give me dirty looks for other reasons…