Here we go…
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/09/14/bc.fbn.chargers.foleyshroids.ap/index.html
The really sad thing is I am not surprised.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
The really sad thing is I am not surprised.[/quote]
What does “crazy” have to do with what this article is based on? I would suspect cocaine long before the leap they made.
Because his violent behavior couldn’t have anything to do with his making a living trying to injure other people [q-backs and r-backs], right? And being encouraged by play without regard to his own safety or the safety of others on the field?
Can’t say I’m surprised either. Looks like another round of suspicious looks from coworkers and students. Luckily, my friends are my size and know better.
[quote]Captain Glanton wrote:
Because his violent behavior couldn’t have anything to do with his making a living trying to injure other people [q-backs and r-backs], right? And being encouraged by play without regard to his own safety or the safety of others on the field?
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Exactly. While the arrest might be news, the leap to conclusions they made should NOT. That’s poor journalism because there are no facts to even back that up.
" Prosecutors requested a sample of Foley’s blood Thursday from Sharp Memorial Hospital to test for performance-enhancing drugs, according to an affidavit for a search warrant. Authorities have no evidence that the 31-year-old used steroids, but asked for the test because of his previous run-ins with police."
“His history of aggressive and even violent contact with law enforcement indicates the possibility of more than mere alcohol involvement,” criminal investigator Dan Nordell wrote in the affidavit. “(Steroids) can cause erratic behavior in those that use them. This has been given names like 'roid rage for the uncontrollable outbursts and violence experienced by some users.”
You’d think on a high profile case like this, they’d get a prosecutor who had some goddamned idea what he was doing.
I love the fact that steroids seem like a more likely explanation of his violent behavior than alcohol. Something tells me ol gumshoe over here isn’t going to be making detective anytime soon.
[quote]cap’nsalty wrote:
" Prosecutors requested a sample of Foley’s blood Thursday from Sharp Memorial Hospital to test for performance-enhancing drugs, according to an affidavit for a search warrant. Authorities have no evidence that the 31-year-old used steroids, but asked for the test because of his previous run-ins with police."
“His history of aggressive and even violent contact with law enforcement indicates the possibility of more than mere alcohol involvement,” criminal investigator Dan Nordell wrote in the affidavit. “(Steroids) can cause erratic behavior in those that use them. This has been given names like 'roid rage for the uncontrollable outbursts and violence experienced by some users.”
You’d think on a high profile case like this, they’d get a prosecutor who had some goddamned idea what he was doing.
I love the fact that steroids seem like a more likely explanation of his violent behavior than alcohol. Something tells me ol gumshoe over here isn’t going to be making detective anytime soon.[/quote]
If he finds roids in his blood he will.
[quote]Captain Glanton wrote:
Because his violent behavior couldn’t have anything to do with his making a living trying to injure other people [q-backs and r-backs], right? And being encouraged by play without regard to his own safety or the safety of others on the field?
Can’t say I’m surprised either. Looks like another round of suspicious looks from coworkers and students. Luckily, my friends are my size and know better.[/quote]
Violent behavior? What violent behavior did he show in this instant? Walking toward an individual who had been following him? I’m sorry, but I could see this kind of situation occuring with a number of individuals, Foley was probably shot instead of tackled due to his size.
This is why you should not be carrying a weapon when you are OFF DUTY. Your authority should be limited to the same capacity of a normal citizen.
EDIT: Deleted for stupidity.
[quote]slimjim wrote:
Captain Glanton wrote:
Because his violent behavior couldn’t have anything to do with his making a living trying to injure other people [q-backs and r-backs], right? And being encouraged by play without regard to his own safety or the safety of others on the field?
Can’t say I’m surprised either. Looks like another round of suspicious looks from coworkers and students. Luckily, my friends are my size and know better.
Violent behavior? What violent behavior did he show in this instant? Walking toward an individual who had been following him? I’m sorry, but I could see this kind of situation occuring with a number of individuals, Foley was probably shot instead of tackled due to his size.
This is why you should not be carrying a weapon when you are OFF DUTY. Your authority should be limited to the same capacity of a normal citizen.[/quote]
Good point. The man was outside of his own home, outside of his car, and gets shot by an off duty police officer for “supposedly” reaching into his pants. I honestly hope Foley is found innocent just to shine a light on that issue. The entire article is written in a way to make him look guilty when no facts back up that conclusion.
I’m in San Diego and naturally have been following this deal pretty closely.
The cop is totally being protected by the law. The dude isn’t even allowed to comment until the entire investigation is complete.
The cop is basically a rookie on Coronado, which is a little island full of million dollar homes, the Hotel Del, boutiques and restaurants, and the Navy bases where the SEALS are located as well as where the Air Craft Carriers are parked.
The cop had been calling the CHP as well as the County Sherrifs department while he was following Foley, but no black and whites ever responded. So, this kid was probably all jacked up on adrenaline with the prospect of finally having some action after working in boring ass Coronado, and decided to play cowboy. Total rookie move. Motherfucker was trying to be a hero without back-up, driving an unmarked car, at 2:00 in the morning.
As for testing him for steroids, I think it’s completely unwarranted. Foley had been drinking at a club downtown, and might have done some other drugs, but I cannot conceivably understand why the DA thinks steroids would have anything to do with it. Just goes to show how fucking retarded the general public is when it comes to performance enhancers like AAS.
This whole scene is a mess, Foley has a history of having run-ins with the law, and in a town like San Diego where the football team is secondary to everything else the media jumped on the side of the police right away. I’m very pro-law enforcement, but this situation leads me to believe that the whole situation was poorly handled. At least Foley wasn’t killed in the incident.
B.
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
I’m in San Diego and naturally have been following this deal pretty closely.
The cop is totally being protected by the law. The dude isn’t even allowed to comment until the entire investigation is complete.
The cop is basically a rookie on Coronado, which is a little island full of million dollar homes, the Hotel Del, boutiques and restaurants, and the Navy bases where the SEALS are located as well as where the Air Craft Carriers are parked.
The cop had been calling the CHP as well as the County Sherrifs department while he was following Foley, but no black and whites ever responded. So, this kid was probably all jacked up on adrenaline with the prospect of finally having some action after working in boring ass Coronado, and decided to play cowboy. Total rookie move. Motherfucker was trying to be a hero without back-up, driving an unmarked car, at 2:00 in the morning.
As for testing him for steroids, I think it’s completely unwarranted. Foley had been drinking at a club downtown, and might have done some other drugs, but I cannot conceivably understand why the DA thinks steroids would have anything to do with it. Just goes to show how fucking retarded the general public is when it comes to performance enhancers like AAS.
This whole scene is a mess, Foley has a history of having run-ins with the law, and in a town like San Diego where the football team is secondary to everything else the media jumped on the side of the police right away. I’m very pro-law enforcement, but this situation leads me to believe that the whole situation was poorly handled. At least Foley wasn’t killed in the incident.
B.[/quote]
I can’t believe my life can be taken away by some cop out of uniform whenever they decide to control a situation. This is the same issue I have with unmarked police cars giving out traffic tickets (I’ve seen this around where I live now). There are too many risks for anyone to simply trust that they are being pulled over by a real cop even though they aren’t dressed as one.
Beyond that, how is a man supposed to know that a cop out of uniform can’t be approached or else he gets shot?..In front of his own damn house?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
BradTGIF wrote:
I’m in San Diego and naturally have been following this deal pretty closely.
The cop is totally being protected by the law. The dude isn’t even allowed to comment until the entire investigation is complete.
The cop is basically a rookie on Coronado, which is a little island full of million dollar homes, the Hotel Del, boutiques and restaurants, and the Navy bases where the SEALS are located as well as where the Air Craft Carriers are parked.
The cop had been calling the CHP as well as the County Sherrifs department while he was following Foley, but no black and whites ever responded. So, this kid was probably all jacked up on adrenaline with the prospect of finally having some action after working in boring ass Coronado, and decided to play cowboy. Total rookie move. Motherfucker was trying to be a hero without back-up, driving an unmarked car, at 2:00 in the morning.
As for testing him for steroids, I think it’s completely unwarranted. Foley had been drinking at a club downtown, and might have done some other drugs, but I cannot conceivably understand why the DA thinks steroids would have anything to do with it. Just goes to show how fucking retarded the general public is when it comes to performance enhancers like AAS.
This whole scene is a mess, Foley has a history of having run-ins with the law, and in a town like San Diego where the football team is secondary to everything else the media jumped on the side of the police right away. I’m very pro-law enforcement, but this situation leads me to believe that the whole situation was poorly handled. At least Foley wasn’t killed in the incident.
B.
I can’t believe my life can be taken away by some cop out of uniform whenever they decide to control a situation. This is the same issue I have with unmarked police cars giving out traffic tickets (I’ve seen this around where I live now). There are too many risks for anyone to simply trust that they are being pulled over by a real cop even though they aren’t dressed as one.
Beyond that, how is a man supposed to know that a cop out of uniform can’t be approached or else he gets shot?..In front of his own damn house?[/quote]
agreed. about once a month i’ll see a story about a man pretending to be a cop, going around and sexually assaulting young women after he pulls them over in his “cop car”. way too many nutjobs out there.