okay, here are my stats. I am about to go on my 1st cycle, but I want to get some feedback first though. What y’all think.
age: 21
bf: around 11-12% I am just guessin here, it is low anyway. visible abs that is.
Weight 165
Height 5.7
Been workin out for 4 years now. 3 years with proper nutrition and ‘devotion’.
The cycle:
1-5 50 mg prop e2d (was thinkin maybe even e3d. It is my very 1st cycle after all)
1-5 20 mg winny ed
I know it is not much but my goal is to get a lil bit more muscular, nuttin spectacular tho’. Do not really want go get any sides of course too. Ohh and I have 24 tab of clomid for Pct. I am trying to decide how to handle it. Would need some help with pct too. I’ll really appreciate any help guys.
you dont want to run either of these for your first cycle. if your looking for something you inject twice a week go with 500mg of test enanthate. run it for about 10 weeks.
The only reason you wont like prop…is frequency of injection and pain of injection. And winstrol isnt what i would call a miracle…think achey joints, hairloss probs if you have MP baldness gene, and enough zits to play connect the dots.
If i were you i would just run testosterone cypionate for 12 weeks at about 300-500mg once per week. And if you MUST stack it with something…i would say stack it with oral turanabol…use the OT for the from week 1 through 4-6(depending on how long for the test to kick in)…at about 30-40mg ed. I wouldnt really recommend dbols for a jumpstart if you dont want sides…if you dont mind sides…then replace the OT with dbol at 40-50mg ed for the first 6 weeks…or anadrol for 100mg ed for the first 4 weeks. But if i were you i would drop the prop and winny…and if you cant get cyp get enthanate.
[quote]facko wrote:
The only reason you wont like prop…is frequency of injection and pain of injection. And winstrol isnt what i would call a miracle…think achey joints, hairloss probs if you have MP baldness gene, and enough zits to play connect the dots.
If i were you i would just run testosterone cypionate for 12 weeks at about 300-500mg once per week. And if you MUST stack it with something…i would say stack it with oral turanabol…use the OT for the from week 1 through 4-6(depending on how long for the test to kick in)…at about 30-40mg ed. I wouldnt really recommend dbols for a jumpstart if you dont want sides…if you dont mind sides…then replace the OT with dbol at 40-50mg ed for the first 6 weeks…or anadrol for 100mg ed for the first 4 weeks. But if i were you i would drop the prop and winny…and if you cant get cyp get enthanate.[/quote]
now you threw me for a loop with this… I thought winstrol had nuttin to do with hairloss and zits. I mean it doesn’t aromatize and doesn’t mess with DHT. So how come it affects your hair?
I’m thinking I could run DECA stacked with winstrol for let’s say 8 weeks. I don;t think that running winstrol orals for 8 weeks is a good idea though. So I am trying to figure out how to do it right.
Winstrol is a DHT derrivitive…And as for deca…don’t use that unless its stacked with test…or say goodbye to your sex drive. I gave you my advice…take it or leave.
winstrol is the WORST anabolic for hair loss, just like all dht derivatives. it also the WORST for cholesterol.
also, the you’re gunna have some serious pain w/ prop, forget doing legs. go with the test e, 500 mg for maybe even only 8 weeks, or up to 12 weeks, possibly through in some d-bols. you’ll gain a good 35 lbs, but you’ll likely lose most of it. sorry.
I’m not into getting 35 lbs… I just want to get like around 10 lbs and hold on to it. That’s it. Plus wanna keep my hair the way it is now. That’s all.
as for the hair… on my father’s side it’s all good. It’s not that good on my mothers side though. Damn. I guess MPB is gonna get me some day, I can feel it. I am 21 and the hairline along the top of the forehead doesn’t look like it did like 3 yeasr ago. And I did not mess with juice yet.
I am running a Iranian TEST-E cycle with T-BOL stacked on top and everytime I fix my hair I notice a few hairs are shedding off onto my hands! AHHHHHH! Anyways I hope this shit is temporary. I still look damn good up top but, I love every single hair on my head and it pains me to see just one come out.
If youve been paying attention lately you would have seen another young man who ran a deca cycle, and has not gotten his libido back since. I really don’t think you want to be that guy.
I like the idea of Test Enanthate. You could run it at 250 if you are worried about sides, and not looking to get extremely ginormus.
I personally believe all first cycles should be test only.
Last but not least, you would be more muscular if you were working out with the “devotion”