[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
xtolgax wrote:
…I can handle the extreme arguments on both sides just fine…beliefs are beliefs and they are hard to change.
but when you come out here and start spewing PURE BULLSHIT I have to call you on it.
THE STATISTICS? show me the statistics. I want the academic proof that gays are more sexually active than straight people. I want the proof that they are more likely to spread disease. WHERE ARE YOUR STAGGERING STATISTICS?
if there is a god, you will either have a gay child, or you will have the shit kicked out of you by a 150 pound man in stilletos.
Wow, not only are you not very bright, you are also an ass.
If you are not aware that sexually active gay young men are statistically far more promiscuous compared to sexually active straight young men then you are ill informed and likely do not know any gay people.
I have gay friends. One of my best friends is HIV positive. His stories of sexual activity are stunning.
I suggest you either take a class in human sexuality or improve your personality so you can make some gay friends and you can get the scoop from them.
[i]Gay author Gabriel Rotello notes the perspective of many gays that "Gay liberation was founded . . . on a ‘sexual brotherhood of promiscuity,’ and any abandonment of that promiscuity would amount to a ‘communal betrayal of gargantuan proportions.’"4 Rotello’s perception of gay promiscuity, which he criticizes, is consistent with survey results. A far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners.5By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in 1984.6
In more recent years, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control has reported an upswing in promiscuity, at least among young homosexual men in San Francisco. From 1994 to 1997, the percentage of homosexual men reporting multiple partners and unprotected anal sex rose from 23.6 percent to 33.3 percent, with the largest increase among men under 25.7 Despite its continuing incurability, AIDS no longer seems to deter individuals from engaging in promiscuous gay sex.8
The data relating to gay promiscuity were obtained from self-identified gay men. Some advocates argue that the average would be lower if closeted homosexuals were included in the statistics.9 That is likely true, according to data obtained in a 2000 survey in Australia that tracked whether men who had sex with men were associated with the gay community. Men who were associated with the gay community were nearly four times as likely to have had more than 50 sex partners in the six months preceding the survey as men who were not associated with the gay community.10 This may imply that it is riskier to be “out” than “closeted.” Adopting a gay identity may create more pressure to be promiscuous and to be so with a cohort of other more promiscuous partners. [/i]
I am amazed that someone can find ill-informed opinion acceptable, but when confronted by simple facts they get their panties in a bunch.
Now put on your stilettos and come on over if you want to kick my ass.[/quote]
Now Zap, there you go not providing the reference for your quote above. It did not come straight (heh) from Rotello, did it? Have you read Sexual Ecology? Do you even understand his reason for writing the book?
I like how you make this issue all about single gay men, leaving out lesbians and monogamous gay and lesbian couples altogether. Because it’s the single guys who want to be able to get married and not the monogamous couples. You know one gay guy with AIDs. How does he represent every other gay person in this country?
YOur “simple facts” are neither. Let’s just say there are about 2-4 million gay people in this country (1-2 % of about 200 million people). Your assertion is that the vast majority of those 2-4 million are going to bathhouses and parks to have anonymous sex with multiple partners. And of course there’s the assumption that straight people are less promiscuous than gay people and therefore less likeley to get AIDs or other diseases.
Please.
