When I say prohormones I am also including designers, etc.
A simple couple of questions really - when in a signifigant calorific deficit - say approx 1000 (possibly more?) cals or so below maintenance (3k calories as maintenance as a ballpark figure)…
Just how helpful are prohormones at maintaining muscle mass/strength/training intensity?
Also… anything signifigant change with diet - macro changes and the such? I have run into advice on a couple of random forums suggesting higher carb intakes then normal when cutting with a PH.
Anything to watch out for that could sting you that wouldnt normaly be seen without PH? Perhaps coming off cycle if food intake is too high/low?
Any big no-no’s?
Personal experiences?
I am preparing for a possible flame-fest for asking questions such as these however I would love some input. Thank you!
Well Ill chime in here. Ive taken two prohormone cycles in my day. 2 years ago I took a cycle of Androstenedione which worked great. I just finished up a cycle of Incredible Bulk (main ingredients are superdrol, pheraplex, and finnigex) and I noticed PH arent anything like they were before.
With the andro I gained 25 lbs in a month while cutting off a decent amount of fat. With the Bulk I gained 13 lbs and lost a decent amount of fat as well. Vascularity went up quite a bit too.
As far as diet is concerned you definately want to increase carbs as well as protein(no brainer) and you should be taking in more calories than you are burning. I noticed on my first cycle that I had to cut out all cardio because I was burning too many calories. I also discovered that I was about 1000 cals below maintenance. Once I upped my calorie intake 1500 calories and increased carb intake(I was scared of carbs at first) I started packing on mass very quickly.
Concerning training intensity and strength I noticed increses in both, but especially in the training intensity dept.
Now I will warn you that if you have a decent amount of fat, say 14% or more, you need to spend some time cutting.
Lastly I would strongly reccommend training naturally with a spot on diet and a well planned training program.
Prohormones are something not to be taken lightly and do not expect that just becuase you take them everything will change. I have seen people take them with a shitty diet and a ridiculous training program and things didnt end well for them when they finished.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
You live in England where it is legal to buy, import, posess and use AAS for personal use. Why the hell would you want to use PHs, when they are far more dangerous than real AAS and also more expensive?
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Because its hard to find a source!
are you from south wales by anychance?
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Yes, what makes you ask?
FYI, I used the internet to buy my first cycle. It was expensive but good gear. If all you require is a mild oral to aid muscle retention then winstrol would only cost you about �£50.
And NO, I don’t know any sources these days, sorry.
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Ah im also from S.Wales, i’ve heard of a few guys that regularly go to thailand import large amounts of steroids to south wales and was just going to ask if you had ever heard anything like this or had any idea if steroids were fairly easy to find if someone asked in the right places?
I dont want any sources from you but its reassuring to know if they are out there locally!
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Yes, what makes you ask?
FYI, I used the internet to buy my first cycle. It was expensive but good gear. If all you require is a mild oral to aid muscle retention then winstrol would only cost you about �£50.
And NO, I don’t know any sources these days, sorry.
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How would winstrol solo compare to the current PH’s, DS’s currently available?
…For the purpose specified.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I suspect that per capita, S. Wales has the highest proportion of AAS users (and abusers) in the UK, possibly the world.
Just ask at your gym, but make sure you aren’t a dick about it.
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thanks for that, yeh il ask about discreetly in the gym. I suspect that the gym manager uses and sells steroids, but i want to find out 100% before i go making a twat out of myself